Ansu Fati

[Khilari]

Because we just got 100 million fucking pounds for our greatest ever player and our subsequent attacking signing could potentially be a winger on loan. If it is just him and not Johnson as well (who has at least played at PL-level), that is barbaric.

Sure, but the subtle details are relevant - we got close to £100m for our greatest ever player in the last year of his contract who wanted to leave, cannot find a suitable ready-made successor because he does not exist and players quoted to potentially replace him have issues (dodgy knees, lengthy spells on the sidelines, betting bans or play in weaker leagues) and the “proven” players may not be massively keen on coming to a club, out of Europe with a track record of winning nothing.

I have issues with Levy not loosening the purse strings but don’t see an obvious solution to the problem currently. So aren’t the club exploring options that could improve the team given the position we are in?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

However Ange balances and re-arranges it all we need to sign a winger and a striker and a CB before the end of the window otherwise we will be left short as always.

Add a CM to that if PEH or GLC go.

If we sign Fati it could be that Son will go up top and compete with Richy for that spot potentially.

Either way we need more firepower.

 

[The Scarecrow]

Not obligation - purely an option. He could be crocked within 5 games

Obligation if he plays a certain amount of matches perhaps.

 

[Marty]

However Ange balances and re-arranges it all we need to sign a winger and a striker and a CB before the end of the window otherwise we will be left short as always.

Add a CM to that if PEH or GLC go.

If we sign Fati it could be that Son will go up top and compete with Richy for that spot potentially.

Either way we need more firepower.

To be honest I'm not overly fussed about a CM even if one or both of those were to go. Not with Bentancur to come back. It's definitely fourth priority behind two attacking players and a CB.

Fati, Johnson and a CB would be a promising end to the window. Just the two attackers would be OK but nothing more. Only one or no signings is pretty bad.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Because we just got 100 million fucking pounds for our greatest ever player and our subsequent attacking signing could potentially be a winger on loan. If it is just him and not Johnson as well (who has at least played at PL-level), that is barbaric.

100% if it is just Fati on loan that 100% sums up everything that is wrong with Levy/ENIC.

If we get Fati and Johnson and a CB then different story and we will actually be well covered for once.

 

[The Scarecrow]

Because we just got 100 million fucking pounds for our greatest ever player and our subsequent attacking signing could potentially be a winger on loan. If it is just him and not Johnson as well (who has at least played at PL-level), that is barbaric.

Surely a loan (with an option) should be seen as a good thing? The Kane money should be spent wisely.

 

[Marty]

Surely a loan (with an option) should be seen as a good thing? The Kane money should be spent wisely.

For Fati, given his injury record, loan with option is entirely sensible.

 

[wiggo24]

Because we just got 100 million fucking pounds for our greatest ever player and our subsequent attacking signing could potentially be a winger on loan. If it is just him and not Johnson as well (who has at least played at PL-level), that is barbaric.

Even Fati and Johnson isn't good enough to even come close to replacing Kane in the aggregate, if we're being honest. One has barely played a full 90 in 3 years and the other was a good but not standout player for a relegation standard team last season.

 

[Stoof]

Even Fati and Johnson isn't good enough to even come close to replacing Kane in the aggregate, if we're being honest. One has barely played a full 90 in 3 years and the other was a good but not standout player for a relegation standard team last season.

Yet another midfielder we bought recently from a relegated club is literally lighting the place up.

 

[Timberwolf]

Even Fati and Johnson isn't good enough to even come close to replacing Kane in the aggregate, if we're being honest. One has barely played a full 90 in 3 years and the other was a good but not standout player for a relegation standard team last season.

Personally I'd prefer it if we just bought one of Fati and Johnson (probably Johnson as I think he's far, far less risky) then saved a ton of money to buy a top striker in Jan or next summer once Ange and the club have a clear target in mind.

I don't think it makes sense to overload the club with expensive wingers, some of which will hardly get on the pitch, and then as a result have less money to spend on a striker when we inevitably buy one.

 

[Danny1]

However Ange balances and re-arranges it all we need to sign a winger and a striker and a CB before the end of the window otherwise we will be left short as always.

Add a CM to that if PEH or GLC go.

If we sign Fati it could be that Son will go up top and compete with Richy for that spot potentially.

Either way we need more firepower.

Agree, I can see the following:

LWF - Fati & Johnson
RWF - Kulusevski & Solomon
CF - Son & Richarlison

The above has a lot of flexibility aswell with multiple players being able to play in other positions. I think ultimately that's what Ange wants.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Because we just got 100 million fucking pounds for our greatest ever player and our subsequent attacking signing could potentially be a winger on loan. If it is just him and not Johnson as well (who has at least played at PL-level), that is barbaric.

I would be gobsmaked if Johnson doesn't happen. They are on the verge of finalising Batshuayi who i'm sure is part of their replacement plan. Once that happens im sure we will finalise our deal. I feel like him joining is very very likely at this point. TBH for me going into the season with Richy, Son and Scarlett as our striker options isn't particularly inspiring more so then whether or not we get both Johnson and Fati.

I agree tho, if Fati is the only addition to the front line it would be underwhelming but I doubt it will be the case.

 

[Stoof]

Ange clearly knackers out his wingers as part of how he wants the game played; cf the way Conte wanted two sets of wingbacks for the very same reason.

 

[worcestersauce]

However Ange balances and re-arranges it all we need to sign a winger and a striker and a CB before the end of the window otherwise we will be left short as always.

Add a CM to that if PEH or GLC go.

If we sign Fati it could be that Son will go up top and compete with Richy for that spot potentially.

Either way we need more firepower.

I take your point about priorities but Perisic is 35 and will be gone next summer, Son is 31 and not getting any better and Fati is 20 with a whole career ahead of him, we could wait until Perisic goes next year but I think if this deal is there to be done this year and we like him then it must be right.
That doesn't change the obvious need for another CB though I agree with that.

 

[mil1lion]

I've got a sneaking suspicion we might see Son as the number 9.

Yes it makes the most sense since we're not going to sign anyone better at it than Son.
Although I also wouldn't rule out Ansu playing their also. I keep seeing people call him a winger but he isn't. He is an inside forward.

 

[Scot-Spur]

Do find it strange we are going for two wingers when Vlahovic is apparently for sale.

Ohwell, if Ange wants a Fati so be it.

 

[wiggo24]

Yet another midfielder we bought recently from a relegated club is literally lighting the place up.

Comparing Maddison, a proven top PL player who was their player of the season, and Johnson, who was excellent in the Championship and fairly average in the Prem, isn't a valid comparison.

I don't think anyone should have any problem signing players from relegated or lower level clubs if the player is a standout player who can really elevate us. That doesn't mean you should be shopping at those clubs regularly for players who don't quite fit that criteria.

 

[Albertbarich]

Ridiculous. How many left-wingers do we need? We already have Son, Perisic and Solomon competing for this position in the 11, the competition is brutal enough as is.

If we're going to sign any wingers, it should be a left-footed one who plays on the right.

I think with Richys struggles and personally I think Sonny looks I'll suited to the left wing slot we have to make a decision.

Son is so important to the club both commercially, on the pitch and in the dressing room so we should find a role for him and in this system being the striker looks the best role for him and with his pace and movement I think he will excel there.

Now if we make that decision and then rely on Solomon and Perisic can you imagine the outrage? And rightly so . I know nothing about Fati beyond the name and having seen Barca but paid no attention it him but if Ange thinks he can be the one I'm fully behind it.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Hey Fati bum bum
Sweet sugar dumpling

Im on board....

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I take your point about priorities but Perisic is 35 and will be gone next summer, Son is 31 and not getting any better and Fati is 20 with a whole career ahead of him, we could wait until Perisic goes next year but I think if this deal is there to be done this year and we like him then it must be right.
That doesn't change the obvious need for another CB though I agree with that.

Huh mate I agree, I think we need Fati 100% but also a striker so Fati AND Johnson would be ok, just Fati on loan not ok.