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Adama Traore

The question is: do you want us to sign Adama Traore? As many as are of that opinion say


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dontcallme

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Come on. That’s just not true. A 25 year old, one of the best dribblers in the world does not play for wolves.

Well it statistically is true that one of the best dribblers in world football plays for Wolves. He made almost twice as man successful dribbles in the league last season compared to the second best dribbler.

Whether the rest of his game makes him a good purchase is the question.
 

Tanguyontour

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Going after him certainly confirms that we will be a counter attacking team with 3 hard working mids !
Not necessarily. Wolves used him to gain territory on Sunday so if we were ever under pressure we could give him the ball and he would push the opposition back allowing us to come forward and start playing in their half.
 

dontcallme

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I'm firmly on the Adama train now.

My first reaction was the same as many on here, that he lacked end product.

After thinking about it I do think he can offer other things that we need. First of all he is capable of marauding runs and dragging the team forward with him. We currently struggle to hold on to the ball, and Adama could provide an output for that. I can see many attacks starting with Adama carrying the ball over distance.

Im addition, opposition has to double up on him. This will give Kane and Son more room to do their thing. It might nor add up to goals and assist for Adama, but he will play his part in it. It's to easy to shut us down by marking Kane and Son. Lucas and Bergwjin has their positives, but dragging defenders all over the pitch aren't one of them.

Lastly, it's the man Nuno wants. That alone should carry a lot of weight.
I'm pretty much the same.

My initial reaction is that he's an exciting player but doesn't get enough goals or assists. But now part of me is very excited by the prospect of buying him.

I'm not sure if this is because I'm trying to see the positives now there is a good possibility of this happening or if I have changed my view.
 

aussieyid

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Part of me says lets do it and he would bring excitement, get bums off seats and give some unpredictability.

The other bit of me says he wont fit in with our team. If you watch him play or highlights, he always gets the ball to feet, vary rarely do you see him make a run, break the line and run into space using his pace to get in behind and collect a through ball. When he rarely does, he invariably misses the one on one due to having poor composure/end product. Point being everything goes through him (it did against us) and we just wont play that way.

Probably over thinking it, lets just do it, whats the worst that can happen :)
 

Haddock

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Few players create something out of nothing, and the ones that do it sucessfully are usually world-class. I’d put Kane and Son in this bracket.

Traore, whilst sometimes lacking end product to match the chances / space he creates, does absolutely create chances out of thin air. He’s probably among the best in the leauge at it.

I was a tad lukewarm at the idea of signing Traore at first. But after thinking about it and reading all the enlightening posts on here, I believe Traore would be a superb signing for us.

I’d even be dissapointed if it didn’t happen now.
 

ebzrascal

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I think Traore would be a great signing because it is not always about the assists and goals it is also about the affect he has on other teams.
His pace and power unsettles defences and upsets their shape pulls players out of position to deal with him etc.. would give us another dimension.. Thought he was fantastic at the weekend
 

Donki

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He if far, far, far more frustrating than he is exciting. He is a good out ball but he sadly has bugger all end product, his passing is poor, his composure is poor. Against us he looked a handful but time after time he just rifled in a cutback cross to absolutely no one.
 

hellava_tough

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He's a unique player with unique attributes.

I don't think he's a player who you can just throw in and expect him to do a job; his decision making and finshing in the final third is too erratic for that. There has to be a specific game-plan as to how we use him and this is more so than with most other players.

Therefore, I think he'd be a great (and fun) signing, but I'd hope that Nuno would use him as a piece to a wider puzzle, utilising his strengths and mitigating his short-comings.
 

Donki

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He's a unique player with unique attributes.

I don't think he's a player who you can just throw in and expect him to do a job; his decision making and finshing in the final third is too erratic for that. There has to be a specific game-plan as to how we use him and this is more so than with most other players.

Therefore, I think he'd be a great (and fun) signing, but I'd hope that Nuno would use him as a piece to a wider puzzle, utilising his strengths and mitigating his short-comings.

He already had 3 seasons to do that at Wolves though, with little success.
 

Aphex

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I dont think there is much of a difference between those players. Sane is more productive, though in better teams and not by as much of a margin as you would think, but considerably worse dribbler. Jota is a useful player, lively, but more of a striker with mediochore productivity as well. For what it's worth in the last season they played at wolves together Jota had 8 direct goal involvements, Traore had 13, very similar amount of minutes to. I think traore is considerably better than Jota was then. It seems like he is highly underrated by some. Confusing to me.

Personally I dont think a creative midfielder is a priority at all, particularly with a three man midfield and Dele in that role, I get that some people do. Personally I'd prefer to add another box to box or defensive minded player in there so we can move both Winks and Sissoko on, Ndombele has essentially already been replaced with Dele, like it or not. Lo Celso, with his age as well, is definitely an option for us as competition for Dele. A McKennie - Ndombele swap would be the dream for me.

A back up striker would be nice but even Son is a top striker for me personally, not many teams play and out and out strikers anymore. Traore essentially gives Son also more flexibility to play that role. A wide man I think is really important as an injury to Lucas we are short on someone who can play on the right. In fact we dont really have anyone. I also dont think Berj is good enough, or Lucas for that matter to really be in a position where they are defecto undroppable.

Yes we need another wide midfielder, there is a reason we got Bale back. With Poch when we played a system where we essentially played N.10s in the forward positions that's fine, that's clearly not what Nunos thinking with us right now. Dele is also now a N.8 and that changes the make up of our squad considerably too.

Jota has mediocre productivity? What are you talking about?

Jota is much better than Traore as an attacker. It’s not even close.
 
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Cel

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He already had 3 seasons to do that at Wolves though, with little success.
It did help a newly-promoted side qualify for Europe, which is quite successful though? It seemed a lot of those goals that year were Traore>Jiminez header.
 

hellava_tough

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He if far, far, far more frustrating than he is exciting. He is a good out ball but he sadly has bugger all end product, his passing is poor, his composure is poor. Against us he looked a handful but time after time he just rifled in a cutback cross to absolutely no one.

This pretty much sums up my post above.

I think the only players who are allowed to be 'limited' these days are DMs; obviously the world class ones have got it all, but there are plenty of DMs who are 'water-carriers', who once they win the ball they give it to a team-mate who is better at passing.

I don't get 'limited' attackers in the same way and I suppose it's for good reason.

That said, our attacking players are better than Wolves' attacking players; would Traore look better if the players around him were making more space and finishing more chances?
 

FrankSpencer

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Even if his end product is a little gash, at least he gets into dangerous positions to attempt a cross / shot / pass / shank.

Most of what I’ve seen for the last 2 seasons, a dangerous position was seeing Dier attempt a cross field pass that ultimately finds its way out of play.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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This pretty much sums up my post above.

I think the only players who are allowed to be 'limited' these days are DMs; obviously the world class ones have got it all, but there are plenty of DMs who are 'water-carriers', who once they win the ball they give it to a team-mate who is better at passing.

I don't get 'limited' attackers in the same way and I suppose it's for good reason.

That said, our attacking players are better than Wolves' attacking players; would Traore look better if the players around him were making more space and finishing more chances?

My concern is more about our ability to deal with the high press and find our attacking players. You can have all the pace in the world but if your players do not give you the ball then it makes you ineffective.

Much rather we spend the money on a Neves
 

wrd

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I just don’t see how people can judge this as a good signing in isolation, Traore has a specific skill set, an exciting one at that but Spurs are lacking in other areas. If we make signings with a view to taking care of those areas and sign Traore then fantastic. If we sign Traore and don’t address those issues then it’s concerning.
 
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