Harry Kane

For the love of Spurs · Jul 30, 2023

Trix said:
Why does it have to be an artificial deadline? They either want him at the price we are willing to accept or they don't. 3-4 weeks of derisery bids inbetween won't change anything as we still have a price we won't drop below. All it does is allow the press circus to grow.

club is two weeks from the start of the season. We badly need a CB, the Kane situation needs to be resolved one way or another particularly if the money from the sale is used for the CB’s. A deadline would be good

Tyler24durden · Jul 30, 2023

Exactly this. Needed a deadline but that would involve acting like a club that has a plan and is in control.

TC18 · Jul 30, 2023

chas vs dave said:
So, you are now comparing us to a club who make a lot more than us?

If people are calm, then they are levy apologists?

Again, its another thread being railroaded into a levy debate.

If we keep kane, and he goes on a free, you'll be the first to talk about how it's amateurish that we've let him go on a free. I get the impression that you talk a lot about how things should be done, what experience do you have in running such organisations?

They’re dropping that without having to sell anyone. We’re having to sell Kane to fix a position that’s been needing addressing for years.

I cannot fathom why people cannot see how we can’t fund Maddison, 1 quality CB, a quality striker and a CB understudy.

We should have £80+m for Kane, £40m from sales and whatever else we generate for a normal transfer budget.

What’s the point of money in the bank? Apart from it looking great on the balance books.

Trix · Jul 30, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
club is two weeks from the start of the season. We badly need a CB, the Kane situation needs to be resolved one way or another particularly if the money from the sale is used for the CB’s. A deadline would be good

Its too late now, needed to be in place and sorted prior to the tour.

Japhet · Jul 30, 2023

Trix said:
Why does it have to be an artificial deadline? They either want him at the price we are willing to accept or they don't. 3-4 weeks of derisery bids inbetween won't change anything as we still have a price we won't drop below. All it does is allow the press circus to grow.

It's precisely how Levy operates when the boot's on the other foot.

TennesseeYid · Jul 30, 2023

Nebby said:
Nice idea, but not remotely realistic.

And there lies the problem

Trix · Jul 30, 2023

Japhet said:
It's precisely how Levy operates when the boot's on the other foot.

And that's why other clubs look like they have plans in place whilst we just wing it.

Nebby · Jul 30, 2023

Why does it have to be an artificial deadline? They either want him at the price we are willing to accept or they don't. 3-4 weeks of derisery bids inbetween won't change anything as we still have a price we won't drop below. All it does is allow the press circus to grow.
It’s a negotiation though, isn’t it.

nicdic · Jul 30, 2023

Trix said:
Its too late now, needed to be in place and sorted prior to the tour.

It's too late now? Come on man

Trix · Jul 30, 2023

nicdic said:
It's too late now? Come on man

It is too late to put a deadline in place. The season starts in less than two weeks and we have missed the majority of pre season as far as bedding in replacements and players bought with the money. May as well let it play out through negotiation now.

If it's me I'm telling Bayern, Kane and his reps, if you want this to happen it has to be done by such and such date because Tottenham Hotspur have to be fully prepared for the season with or without Kane. Everyone knows where they stand and we can actually put our ducks in a row.

pablo73 · Jul 30, 2023

nicdic said:
It's too late now? Come on man

Too late for a deadline now, that ship has sailed.

jimmy-jojo · Jul 30, 2023

A deadline hasn’t been set because Levy wants to sell. No way he lets £100m+ pound walk away for nothing in 11 months time.
He be willing to wait until the very last second of the transfer window to get the sale done. If not this transfer window then he’ll still be trying to get something in January.

nicdic · Jul 30, 2023

My bad, I get the context now.

Bluto Blutarsky · Jul 30, 2023

Nebby said:
Why does it have to be an artificial deadline?

Who said anything about an artificial deadline?

You should never set a deadline you are not prepared to meet. So, if we say it has to be wrapped up by Friday - then it has to be wrapped up by Friday, or we walk away. Simple. It's a real deadline. We don't have to use the transfer deadline, if we don't want to sell. Name a price, give a deadline, live with the consequences.

Nebby · Jul 30, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
club is two weeks from the start of the season. We badly need a CB, the Kane situation needs to be resolved one way or another particularly if the money from the sale is used for the CB’s. A deadline would be good

So let’s say we set a price of £100m and a deadline, and let’s say it passed two weeks ago but no sale was agreed. You going to turn away a possible sale tomorrow? Of course not. Only an idiot would. He goes for nothing in 12 months. But now you’re in a much weaker negotiating position and that £100m you wanted is only going to go down. Setting our own deadline kills us.

Nebby · Jul 30, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
Who said anything about an artificial deadline?

You should never set a deadline you are not prepared to meet. So, if we say it has to be wrapped up by Friday - then it has to be wrapped up by Friday, or we walk away. Simple. It's a real deadline. We don't have to use the transfer deadline, if we don't want to sell. Name a price, give a deadline, live with the consequences.

That’s just madness. And it would never work.

TC18 · Jul 30, 2023

jimmy-jojo said:
A deadline hasn’t been set because Levy wants to sell. No way he lets £100m+ pound walk away for nothing in 11 months time.
He be willing to wait until the very last second of the transfer window to get the sale done. If not this transfer window then he’ll still be trying to get something in January.

You’re right.

When Dortmund done the same with Sancho and Utd. They didn’t want to sell, so put a deadline in place with an amount they knew Utd was unlikely to deal at.

Levy wants to sell, he won’t put a deadline on it and he certainly won’t put a price on it.

He cares more for the balance sheet than he does for the preparation of the season. He always has done and always will do. It’s why we always fuck about late into the window in the hope to save/gain a few quid.

Tezza1978 · Jul 30, 2023

Trix said:
as we still have a price we won't drop below. All it does is allow the press circus to grow.

I agree with the latter part of your post mate but still feel that it doesn't stop ANY club doing that anyway, regardless of any personal deadlines we put in place!

I accept that this would make far more sense if Kane had 2 more years left on his deal - we set a deadline and a price and tell them to Foxtrot Oscar if the date passes without agreement. 100% on board with that strategy.

But with 1 year to go, and the ability to sign him on a pre contract in January? Really not so sure. All parties have some leverage at this point, next summer no one does except Kane himself and we are left with nothing. Desperate for him to stay, but 97%-99% sure he would leave on a free anyway next summer if we don't sell him now

Trix · Jul 30, 2023

Nebby said:
That’s just madness. And it would never work.

Its not madness at all it already happens.

TC18 · Jul 30, 2023

Nebby said:
So let’s say we set a price of £100m and a deadline, and let’s say it passed two weeks ago but no sale was agreed. You going to turn away a possible sale tomorrow? Of course not. Only an idiot would. He goes for nothing in 12 months. But now you’re in a much weaker negotiating position and that £100m you wanted is only going to go down. Setting our own deadline kills us.

If you set a deadline you are prepared to walk away from the money. The plus side, you get to prepare for the season properly with a world class player and you have less teams Fucking you about in future.

We will never be prepared to walk away from the money. We will always compromise the football side before the money side, and you end up in situations like this 2 weeks before the start of the season.

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