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dirtyh

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You’re missing the point entirely or you’re doing it intentionally because it’s likely won you this game. If the shoe was on the other foot you’d be furious. I don’t remember England attempting any kind of underhand tactics when we Australia within two wickets of victory?

yup. imagine if england had just bodylined lyon for example just to get the fucker out. hope they take it to another level now, gloves are well and truly off.
 

$hoguN

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Does that make it right?

If the shoe was on the other foot England would have done the same.
You have the England Coach and Captain continuously saying we are willing to lose games to Entertain the fans. We go and do that in the first test. We wouldn’t even have considered doing it
 

werty

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Maybe you need to watch the clip and actually watch what happened. Nicked off to keeper, didn't walk, that happens all the time. What happened after that he had no clue about. Keeper parried it,1st slip caught it
What do you mean he didn't know what happened after? He clearly knew he nicked it and it was caught. He knew he was out but didn't move.
 

werty

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You have the England Coach and Captain continuously saying we are willing to lose games to Entertain the fans. We go and do that in the first test. We wouldn’t even have considered doing it
I forgot how morally superior England are to other teams. My bad.
 

tommo84

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As an Englishman I’m annoyed at Bairstow for being bloomin’ daft. As they showed in the analysis he was stepping out of his crease throughout the over, presenting Carey with the opportunity.

However as a cricket fan I don’t like seeing that kind of thing. I don’t think the Aussies should be taking any pride in taking that opportunity, but as Trix said the Aussies cricket team have been a ‘win at all costs’ team for a very long time. That makes Bairstow’s naivety all the more annoying - and that Bairstow himself is a wicket keeper makes his naivety quite surprising!
 

rightwayup

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Pathetic response.
Nothing similar. LJB wandered and was out.
What happened in South Africa was a whole nother level. And i hated it.
Pathetic response? Its about the spirit of the game and Australia because of that incident are having to play catch up. This won't help.

Ironically I winnered the post saying not to direct our ire at you. I stand by that.
 

Thenewcat

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Find the clip and listen to the commentators, particularly Bumble. The majority, from memory, thought he what he done was wrong and he should have walked.
You can certainly make the argument he should have, but it’s pure whataboutery to be bringing it up today.
 

Thenewcat

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What do you mean he didn't know what happened after? He clearly knew he nicked it and it was caught. He knew he was out but didn't move.
No one is debating that he knew he hit it. But since that incident 100 Aussies haven’t walked when they knew they were out, and 100 Englishmen too, because it’s part of the game. What happened today was not within the spirit of the game at all. Please stop with the whataboutery and either try to make an argument that what happened today was acceptable or give it up
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Wasn't Ian Bell was run out in a similar(ish) incident against India in 2011. On that occasion, the then India captain, MS Dhoni, recalled him and allowed him to continue his innings.
 

Timbo Tottenham

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What do you mean he didn't know what happened after? He clearly knew he nicked it and it was caught. He knew he was out but didn't move.
Come on Werty, everyone waits for the finger before walking these days. I don’t agree with it, but I always found it strange that Broad got so much stick when every player in every game of cricket waits to be given out. It feels like you’re just being obtuse for the sake of it at this point.
 

midoshairband

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Wasn't Ian Bell was run out in a similar(ish) incident against India in 2011. On that occasion, the then India captain, MS Dhoni, recalled him and allowed him to continue his innings.

recalled him over the lunch break i think.

maybe those lovely Aussies will let him bat again last!
 

dimiSpur

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Bairstow did it countless times prior to the stumping. So it was premeditated by Carey. It's sly for my liking.

For some reason Sky have an Aussie and an Irishman (despite him being England captain) saying its fine and comparing it to Colin de Grandhomme with Pope. CDG tried a shot, edged and set off on a RUN. He then failed to get back in time. Stumpings are off balance batters defeated by a bowler. This was Carey taking advantage of Bairstow thinking (admittedly stupidly) that the over was done.

It's not the same, neither is it OK because Starc had his "catch" ruled not out yesterday.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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I forgot how morally superior England are to other teams. My bad.
We get it. You hate England.

The difference is, this England team under Stokes has been entertain first, win second. I don’t particularly agree with it but England are the last team you can question over their intentions. They literally put themselves into losing positions to create great entertainment.

I couldn’t care less if people think I am biased and would say this, but I’m 99% sure England under Stokes would never have done what Australia did.
 

midoshairband

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can we all just agree that it's not cheating. the umpires gave it out, s o unless we're saykng the unpires have cheated too...

it's just pure s-housery and against the spirit of the game.
 

dimiSpur

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I would add that I think its worse than a mankad. Mankadding at least is an attempt to punish a batter trying to gain an advantage in taking a quick single.

Bairstow just wandered off for a chat.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Wasn't Ian Bell was run out in a similar(ish) incident against India in 2011. On that occasion, the then India captain, MS Dhoni, recalled him and allowed him to continue his innings.
I just checked and Dhoni was given the Spirit of Cricket award in 2011 for that. In 2020, it was voted winner of the spirit of cricket award for the decade.
 
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