Next Manager Watch

easley91 said:

It's not just twitter when it's on here as well..

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Trix said:

At this point I think we just need to do something even if it's not everyone's first choice and it costs financially. The transfer window opens in 11 days and there's so much that needs to be done without what should be the two key components in place. I'm far from convinced Enrique is the right choice, but then I think the 3 best candidates are either gone or in JN's case extremely unlikely.

Be it Enrique or AP or whoever, a decision needs to be made now, we need to own that decision, and we need to back it, or we can just write off another season. This has gone on long enough!

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Nick-TopSpursMan said:

If our fans can't get behind him should he come then I'm sorry to say this but in my opinion our fans are a major part of the problem and I have to question whether we ‘deserve’ any success.

If we are still just clamouring for big names with hype then we’ve really not learnt anything from the Mourinho and Conte disasters.

It’s not about the name, it’s about the fit. That’s the key to a manager being a success at a club like Spurs imo, one which doesn’t have infinite resources.

Part of our rebuild in my view is letting go of preconceived notions that a top manager has to be a big name.

Our 3 best PL managers are Jol, Redknapp and Poch. None of them were big names and Jol hadn’t done a thing when he became our manager.

If he wants to play attacking football, coach players and develop young players he will get my backing. If I don’t see improvements or I see major errors constantly then I’ll question him. But he gets a clean slate from me as with every manager. I even tried to give Mourinho and Conte a clean slate even though I knew they’d fail because of their rubbish football and bad fit.

If our fans can’t get behind someone who wants to attack and do things the Spurs way, we are doomed to failure. That doesn't mean you can't have concerns or other favoured candidates btw but some of the stuff on Ange is just ignorant and the hashtag on Twitter is ridiculous.


For what it's worth, I share concerns about his lack of experience in a top 5 league, a similar concern I had with Slot. I also worry about how his counter pressing game scales to PL level as Nathan on the Extra Inch analysed.

But when I analyse the tactics he employs, the things he's done behind the scenes, the character and charisma he's shown, the journey he has gone on, it makes it worth the risk for me, even though I realise it may not work and I'd probably have gone for Nagelsmann or Slot.

This guy had an average playing career on the other side of the world, no connections, no mates to get in to high level management in Europe. Instead he worked his backside off every day to improve and learn, climbing the ladder in Asia before moving to Europe. He didn't have it easy like former players (Conte, Poch etc) who get given chances because of who they are, or like Mourinho (Bobby Robson) because of who they know. Instead he worked and worked like any of us would have to, taking years climbing the ladder.

It's an underdog story and man have I got a thing for underdogs.

If we get him, I'll get behind him. Doesn't matter what part of the world he's from or how long it's taken him to get here, if he embraces Tottenham Hotspur and promises to play and coach in the Tottenham way, I'll cheer for him

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Ginola+Tonic said:

Ange is a journeyman who’s biggest gig is Celtic in a woefully poor league.
How some fans are backing him is beyond me, hugely gaslight by our club thinking this is some type of master plan to become a top football team again.
This is a cop out and he’ll be gone by Christmas.

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Whoami? said:

The difference between Ange and Slot for me is whilst you can't judge either on their league form, you can judge them against better opposition in Europe. Ange record in Europe looks poor (Let's forget about CL) he was conceding goals for fun whilst Slot at least gave it a go against the bigger teams and got to respectable stages of the tournament, only to lose to Jose twice.

Ange got done comfortably by Bodo/Glimt. It wasn't even a contest

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easley91 said:

I think this is the biggest problem. Very few are open minded and it must be manager x or y for reason a, b or c. Like yourself, they don't have the ability to just go okay let's give him a chance to see if he can prove us wrong.

We just had two managers who won massive leagues, yet they failed to galvanise this club and win anything. I get the Scottish or Dutch league reasoning, I do. But if he isn't given a chance then how can he prove his worth? That's not me saying we MUST hire him. He isn't my number one, that has long gone.

There just seems to be something with this place and this fanbase where everything has to be negative and nobody is good enough.

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spursfan77 said:

Who gives a fuck what the City Group think? They’re a financially doped sports washing machine. Their opinion mean’s absolutely nothing when they can buy virtually every league their teams are in.

This will end in tears.

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Nick-TopSpursMan said:

If our fans can't get behind him should he come then I'm sorry to say this but in my opinion our fans are a major part of the problem and I have to question whether we ‘deserve’ any success.

If we are still just clamouring for big names with hype then we’ve really not learnt anything from the Mourinho and Conte disasters.

It’s not about the name, it’s about the fit. That’s the key to a manager being a success at a club like Spurs imo, one which doesn’t have infinite resources.

Part of our rebuild in my view is letting go of preconceived notions that a top manager has to be a big name.

Our 3 best PL managers are Jol, Redknapp and Poch. None of them were big names and Jol hadn’t done a thing when he became our manager.

If he wants to play attacking football, coach players and develop young players he will get my backing. If I don’t see improvements or I see major errors constantly then I’ll question him. But he gets a clean slate from me as with every manager. I even tried to give Mourinho and Conte a clean slate even though I knew they’d fail because of their rubbish football and bad fit.

If our fans can’t get behind someone who wants to attack and do things the Spurs way, we are doomed to failure. That doesn't mean you can't have concerns or other favoured candidates btw but some of the stuff on Ange is just ignorant and the hashtag on Twitter is ridiculous.


For what it's worth, I share concerns about his lack of experience in a top 5 league, a similar concern I had with Slot. I also worry about how his counter pressing game scales to PL level as Nathan on the Extra Inch analysed.

But when I analyse the tactics he employs, the things he's done behind the scenes, the character and charisma he's shown, the journey he has gone on, it makes it worth the risk for me, even though I realise it may not work and I'd probably have gone for Nagelsmann or Slot.

This guy had an average playing career on the other side of the world, no connections, no mates to get in to high level management in Europe. Instead he worked his backside off every day to improve and learn, climbing the ladder in Asia before moving to Europe. He didn't have it easy like former players (Conte, Poch etc) who get given chances because of who they are, or like Mourinho (Bobby Robson) because of who they know. Instead he worked and worked like any of us would have to, taking years climbing the ladder.

It's an underdog story and man have I got a thing for underdogs.

If we get him, I'll get behind him. Doesn't matter what part of the world he's from or how long it's taken him to get here, if he embraces Tottenham Hotspur and promises to play and coach in the Tottenham way, I'll cheer for him

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easley91 said:

If he is hired then Levy is giving him a chance, but I am on about the fans once someone is hired into the manager's role. This fanbase deem people not good enough. You could be underqualified but willing to learn and work with those around you. If given a chance you could prove to be successful and prove all the doubters wrong.

I am not saying he will be a roaring success, nor am I saying he is not good enough. We as a fanbase need to stop believing outright that one person is worthy of it and another isn't. If Ange is hired then get behind him, if Enrique is hired get behind him, if Potter is hired then get behind. Whoever is fucking hired then get behind them.

This fanbase is weirdly obsessed with writing people off when they're simply linked with us. Of course discuss his style, his CV etc. but don't be a dick who is waiting to go "I told you so" if it fails.

How many were begging for Redknapp or Poch when we got them? Were they at the level we wanted? Redknapp was a Championship manager at the time. Poch was at Southampton. They had barely won anything of note between them. Same with Jol.

Just give whoever is hired a chance to implement their style and get behind them without getting on backs on day one or even before they sign a contract.

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timmytime said:

I'm going to bite - and I'll take the Aussie bias comment if it comes. But, to say we're being gaslight is so disrespectful to us and to Ange. Ange has earned everything he has been given in his coaching career so far. He has come up against groupthink like yours the entire time - yet every team he has coached has improved both on field and off it.

A coach is not the fountain of knowledge like some think. Nor do they have to be a big name. What they need to be in authentic and genuine, with an ability to lead and inspire. All of which Ange has in spades.

I'm a premier league hockey coach in Western Australia, currently coaching olympic athletes and State players. I've never played the game at that level. However, I can inspire, teach and get people to learn. This is what makes successful coaches. This is what Ange has.

I can guarantee nothing because sport is not linear. However, I can guarantee groupthink and prejudice like yours is on its way out of sport - good riddance.

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JUSTINSIGNAL said:

Hiring Jose and Conte was an attempt to win something with a squad many thought had the talent to do so. Both are not known for being 'yes men' so if the board simply wanted managers who towed the lined they went the completely the wrong way about it.

As for the rebuild, Conte himself said it would take 4-5 transfer windows. We are in market where selling players on high salaries is almost impossible. So much so we've had to pretty much give away players like Aurier, Doherty, Toby, Sissoko, Lamela in recent seasons. And we've tried to sell Ndombele and Lo Celso for less than third of what we paid for them.

Asking a new manager to work with some of the current squad is entirely reasonable as we can't just rebuild the squad everytime we change manager. Fans all say Brighton are the model we should be following but do you think they chose De Zerbi expecting to go through a rebuild? or was it for his ability to coach maximise the ability of the majority of their current team?

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Nick-TopSpursMan said:

If our fans can't get behind him should he come then I'm sorry to say this but in my opinion our fans are a major part of the problem and I have to question whether we ‘deserve’ any success.

If we are still just clamouring for big names with hype then we’ve really not learnt anything from the Mourinho and Conte disasters.

It’s not about the name, it’s about the fit. That’s the key to a manager being a success at a club like Spurs imo, one which doesn’t have infinite resources.

Part of our rebuild in my view is letting go of preconceived notions that a top manager has to be a big name.

Our 3 best PL managers are Jol, Redknapp and Poch. None of them were big names and Jol hadn’t done a thing when he became our manager.

If he wants to play attacking football, coach players and develop young players he will get my backing. If I don’t see improvements or I see major errors constantly then I’ll question him. But he gets a clean slate from me as with every manager. I even tried to give Mourinho and Conte a clean slate even though I knew they’d fail because of their rubbish football and bad fit.

If our fans can’t get behind someone who wants to attack and do things the Spurs way, we are doomed to failure. That doesn't mean you can't have concerns or other favoured candidates btw but some of the stuff on Ange is just ignorant and the hashtag on Twitter is ridiculous.


For what it's worth, I share concerns about his lack of experience in a top 5 league, a similar concern I had with Slot. I also worry about how his counter pressing game scales to PL level as Nathan on the Extra Inch analysed.

But when I analyse the tactics he employs, the things he's done behind the scenes, the character and charisma he's shown, the journey he has gone on, it makes it worth the risk for me, even though I realise it may not work and I'd probably have gone for Nagelsmann or Slot.

This guy had an average playing career on the other side of the world, no connections, no mates to get in to high level management in Europe. Instead he worked his backside off every day to improve and learn, climbing the ladder in Asia before moving to Europe. He didn't have it easy like former players (Conte, Poch etc) who get given chances because of who they are, or like Mourinho (Bobby Robson) because of who they know. Instead he worked and worked like any of us would have to, taking years climbing the ladder.

It's an underdog story and man have I got a thing for underdogs.

If we get him, I'll get behind him. Doesn't matter what part of the world he's from or how long it's taken him to get here, if he embraces Tottenham Hotspur and promises to play and coach in the Tottenham way, I'll cheer for him

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Ginola+Tonic said:

Prejudice???

Idiot!!!

I never once mentioned anything other than he’s a journeyman, and you’re calling prejudice.

Get a grip man.

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jpascavitz said:

1st - Many supporters have said they don't "care" about results currently and want to see attacking football back as our DNA:

• https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...actics-for-celtics-showdown-with-real-madrid/

• "A question to Ange Postecoglou over whether Celtic will adapt their tactical approach when Real Madrid visit Glasgow on Tuesday night drew a smile. “Aha, my plan A,” said the Australian. Postecoglou – who believes his style would receive more praise were he Spanish, Dutch or German – is aware of what his detractors claim. That is, he has just one – attacking – way of playing."

He'll go down on a sinking ship with attacking football, he's the Anti-Conte

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RuskyM said:

He's undeniably progressive. As for age, who cares? He's not lining up for us and average PL tenure is what, fourteen months? And if he was here for five years, he'd still not be able to draw a pension. If he's young enough to work according to the DWP he's young enough for me.

Well yeah, he's not gonna say "love our sloppy seconds", is he? Even if RDZ was first choice, AP was undeniably considered, so it's not like he's only linked with a PL club due to A-League connections.

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