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Dr Know · May 28, 2023

sidford said:
From Athletics most recent piece on our shit show.

This is why I don't want Mason to get the gig full time. He will be a yes man for Levy.

Ryan Mason defends Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy

Tottenham Hotspur interim head coach Ryan Mason has defended club chairman Daniel Levy by insisting he has been let down by other people. Spurs have had another disappointing season having failed to finish inside the top four or win a trophy. Levy, who took control of the club in 2001, has come...

theathletic.com

""Speaking ahead of Tottenham’s final game of the season, Mason said: “It hurts him, it hurts everyone committed to this club and everyone who really cares and wants this club to be successful.

“One thing I will say is he’s spent money, he’s tried and I just think ultimately he has probably been let down by other people but that’s football. That happens and hopefully we can get things right quickly, make good decisions and it can turnaround.”

I would have done the same and lied through my teeth if I wanted the job too

Stoof · May 28, 2023

The “it just has to be JN otherwise fuck this” crowd … you realise it’s just not going to be JN. So what’s your fuck this option? Are you out?

Tottenhamboy85 · May 28, 2023

Stoof said:
The “it just has to be JN otherwise fuck this” crowd … you realise it’s just not going to be JN. So what’s your fuck this option? Are you out?

Don’t need to be out because we’ll be looking again in 12-18 months time

Metalhead · May 28, 2023

Are people getting annoyed at the opinions of posters on certain candidates because of the suggestion that the board might be canvassing opinions from supporters? Other than that, I can't see any reason to get wound up as ultimately the decision is out of our hands.

Dakes · May 28, 2023

I'm ready for another week of 'National Lampoons Managerial Hunt' starring Levy Futile Chase.

Johnny J · May 28, 2023

Bobbins said:
All these posts are making me laugh.

"Don't call Ange fat!" (even though he's fat).

"Don't call him old!" (even though he's pretty old compared to what we're supposedly looking for).

"Don't take the mick out of his name!" (even though it's ripe for funny riffs).

"Grow up it's 2023 how old are you?!" (even though everyone knows male humour is often immature at whatever age you are).

Not only failing to acknowledge how ridiculously hyper-sensitive these kind of responses are (unless you're related to him, stop inventing things to take offence at), but apparently it's absolutely fine to constantly post that Levy is a "bald ****", "fucking chrome dome gnome" or whatever myriad descriptions of his physical appearance people come up with.

This place has gone absolutely off the edge this year.

No worries, I just generally don't find that sort of thing amusing. Last week someone IRL called me a slur starting with R because I'm autistic, so I'm probably quite attuned and perhaps oversensitive to that sort of thing right now. Appreciate that's a me thing.

Back on topic, let's hope we get some news soon after the season ends today.

Sp3akerboxxx · May 28, 2023

Stoof said:
The “it just has to be JN otherwise fuck this” crowd … you realise it’s just not going to be JN. So what’s your fuck this option? Are you out?

Meh, I'd argue I used to care about Spurs a lot more than I do now.

The whole Nuno debacle was pretty much the nail in the coffin of me giving a shit

Don't get me wrong, you'll never be fully out.

It's like realising your dad is a dickhead as you get older.

You'll still pop round every now and then, but it won't take up my whole weekend anymore.

St José Dominguez · May 28, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
this is why the manager search is also a mess. Pochettino, Naglesmann, dare I say Slot would be afforded a lot of time. Rogers is a dick, so he would need to hit the ground running.

Rodgers aside, any manager we employ needs patience and a couple of seasons to rebuild. If fans aren’t willing to give them that then those thicko fans deserve everything they get.

Tucker · May 28, 2023

Stoof said:
The “it just has to be JN otherwise fuck this” crowd … you realise it’s just not going to be JN. So what’s your fuck this option? Are you out?

Yeah a lot of people are setting themselves up for a fall. I’m of the opinion that the club need to do what it takes to get JN and a DoF of his liking in. Otherwise anyone coming in is going to look like a 3rd or 4th choice option. And that’s not going to be a good starting point for a rebuild. They’ll know it, the guy they bring will know it, and the fans will know it. Just like when we appointed Nuno.

But I’m under no illusions that it will happen, and there’s fuck all I can do if it doesn’t.

Wick3d · May 28, 2023

St José Dominguez said:
Rodgers aside, any manager we employ needs patience and a couple of seasons to rebuild. If fans aren’t willing to give them that then those thicko fans deserve everything they get.

That doesn't matter, as Levy will fuck it up anyway. The only solution is to get rid of him somehow.

The only thing we can hope for realistically is to be able to enjoy watching us play again. We will still be a mid-table team, though. Levy is not capable of pushing us on.

wiggo24 · May 28, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Personally when this started out I wasn’t completely convinced bringing him back would be the right move. In my mind there were a lot of good options out there and I was concerned about old cracks reappearing.

But seeing how this has played out and the names we are now being linked to my feelings have completely changed. I’d pick Poch over Potter, Ange or Rodgers in a heartbeat.

Feel exactly the same way.

I think at the start of the process, given the names available, I trusted (naively) that maybe the board had decided to go another route and this could be a smart decision to avoid Poch. Turns out they’ve got no clue what they’re doing and they probably just turned him down because he fell out with Donna Cullen or something.

Sp3akerboxxx · May 28, 2023

St José Dominguez said:
Rodgers aside, any manager we employ needs patience and a couple of seasons to rebuild. If fans aren’t willing to give them that then those thicko fans deserve everything they get.

Not all managers will suddenly become world beaters if you give them two years.

Some will just be shit for two years.

For the love of Spurs · May 28, 2023

Tucker said:
Yeah a lot of people are setting themselves up for a fall. I’m of the opinion that the club need to do what it takes to get JN and a DoF of his liking in. Otherwise anyone coming in is going to look like a 3rd or 4th choice option. And that’s not going to be a good starting point for a rebuild. They’ll know it, the guy they bring will know it, and the fans will know it. Just like when we appointed Nuno.

But I’m under no illusions that it will happen, and there’s fuck all I can do if it doesn’t.

club is setting itself up to be the next Everton. I have no idea why the board has done this looks like self sabotage.

Ron Burgundy · May 28, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Personally when this started out I wasn’t completely convinced bringing him back would be the right move. In my mind there were a lot of good options out there and I was concerned about old cracks reappearing.

But seeing how this has played out and the names we are now being linked to my feelings have completely changed. I’d pick Poch over Potter, Ange or Rodgers in a heartbeat.

Totally with you. There were better options. But we fucked them all

St José Dominguez · May 28, 2023

Wick3d said:
That doesn't matter, as Levy will fuck it up anyway. The only solution is to get rid of him somehow.

The only thing we can hope for realistically is to be able to enjoy watching us play again. We will still be a mid-table team, though. Levy is not capable of pushing us on.

Oh without doubt he’ll fuck it up. He ain’t going anywhere though. As you said I just want us to at least be trying to play attacking football. If we attempt that whoever manager is will be getting a lot of patience from me at least.

Scot-Spur · May 28, 2023

danielneeds said:
How many clubs look at coaches in Australia, though? It’s considered a footballing backwater. The fact he’s made it to Europe at all is a testament to work hard.

Of course it is but he has been managing in some capacity for 20 odd years? He could have moved to Europe and worked his way up?

Kirito · May 28, 2023

Stoof said:
The “it just has to be JN otherwise fuck this” crowd … you realise it’s just not going to be JN. So what’s your fuck this option? Are you out?

If Levy hires the cheap option and it goes wrong again at the start of next season, I can see alot of fans becoming extremely apathetic towards the club marking the start of a potential serious downturn - back to the bottom of the table, no CL for the foreseeable future.

This is likely the most important managerial appointment in the past decade. Because of this I think he will go for a ‘top’ name, as JN is still available we should be doing everything to get him in. If not JN then it will still have to be someone who has managed at a high level, experience with big names and has a history of promoting youth - If that name is not available now, we need to be doing everything to tempt that person away from their current club now the season is over.

And if the club is looking at social media to get a feel for who we want, we absolutely as a fanbase should not be settling for a journeyman who doesn’t fit any of the above criteria.

JCRD · May 28, 2023

quackers said:
Do you need any more reason to know ange is not for us in the amount to "videos" and PR posts all about him.

The guy is a nobody who needs to sell himself with youtube videos and we seriously would consider him at one of the top 10 clubs on the planet?

This is not me saying I want Ange because again I will say, I dont really have any preference, the only preference I had was Poch and I accepted that wont happen a long time ago.

But

Saying we are one of the top 10 clubs on the planet is the problem. We seem to have delusions of grandeur and until we accept we are not, then we will feel better. We may be one of the top 10 on business side of things, but not on the pitch - and if youre judging us off the pitch - then youre really no better than Levy - because that is just judging us ont he same criteria he is - and thats why he isnt going to leave.

My view is the manager needs to focus on the pitch and right now - our team is shite, our team is filled with players who feel not a lot for the team, our squad is bloated, our team has no backbone, our team needs someone who is gonna start from scratch apart from the key ingredients and rebuild. We dont need. The sooner we realise this then it becomes clearer that someone like Ange may work - even if it is for the next two or three years and we build on that - another Jol perhaps.

Do you think one of the top 10 managers in the world would manage us right now? I doubt it. and theyll only join us wtih a massive amount of give from Levy which we dont really have.

For the love of Spurs · May 28, 2023

St José Dominguez said:
Rodgers aside, any manager we employ needs patience and a couple of seasons to rebuild. If fans aren’t willing to give them that then those thicko fans deserve everything they get.

give Nuno long enough he would have got us in a relegation fight. Fans should give a manager 6 months or so to show what brand of football they want to play and if it’s compatible like what we saw with Poch or Redknapp but if it’s clear they are taking us one direction and that being down just ‘’backing the manager’’ will not lead to anything positive.

the club has now in effect made it look like any manager is 4-5th choice by their actions and so I do feel sorry for whoever we hire but on the plus side they will be well compensated.

St José Dominguez · May 28, 2023

Sp3akerboxxx said:
Not all managers will suddenly become world beaters if you give them two years.

Some will just be shit for two years.

And we as fans are meant to know which ones will turn good and which ones won’t? There’s plenty of examples of it going both ways.
We haven’t played attacking football for 4 years, our squad is a mess, we are a mess. If the new manager comes in and we are trying to play attacking football but 12th I couldn’t care less. I’ll be giving them a chance season 2 to get things going with a new style of play.

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