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floydiohead

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Let me take a wild stab in the dark here

You do not live in London, nor England, you have not had Spurs passed down generations nor been going to WHL with family members who are no longer with you and you bare memories of them and your life at the club?

I am not an advocat for “we’re better fans than you” because others have chosen to support Spurs from a far. But your notion that we have a choice to just forget about it and support someone else is just utter bollox

Some of us can’t. Some of us have loved Spurs for longer than anything else we know, you don’t just stop.

I honestly would try to stop giving the club anything under these owers but I couldn’t ever stop caring.
I can’t even stop giving them money because no matter how much I hate this team my son absolutely loves doing to games, poor innocent fucker has no idea what he’s letting himself in for
To give some balance to this, I do live in London, I have had Spurs passed down in the way you say, I have been going for 36 years, and I've now made the choice to stop.

Painful and difficult as it may be, we do all have a choice; and I sympathise with those who feel trapped or that it is impossible to stop going, but it is a choice and it can be done.
 

BujuBanton

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Aug 31, 2012
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Only last month our great leader told us that we lost our way, but FEAR NOT! We will return to the values that define this great club (COYS, Daniel….etc).

Yesterday we had ITK that they are using social media to sound out reaction to the remaining list of patsies.

its one hell of a ride, isnt it.
 

only1waddle

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Jun 18, 2012
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We look like the idiots already!

Yes maybe but I’d be surprised if Feyenoord make it through the group stages and more likely that they will sell all their top players within a couple transfer windows.


It's early, in my sleepy state I'd forgotten we are indeed already the idiots..
 

gibbospurs

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Aug 28, 2010
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Yeah agree, think the loyalty is impressive, but time will tell if it’s the right long term decision for both.
Ultimately they will likely have very well paid jobs for the rest of their lives in football which they both clearly love. Fair play to both of them sticking with the clubs. Spurs would see them fail quicker. And currently their fans adore them and will appreciate them.
 

gibbospurs

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Aug 28, 2010
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Only last month our great leader told us that we lost our way, but FEAR NOT! We will return to the values that define this great club (COYS, Daniel….etc).

Yesterday we had ITK that they are using social media to sound out reaction to the remaining list of patsies.

its one hell of a ride, isnt it.
What itk was this please?
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Ok here's my thoughts, on the understanding that the top names that we've fooled ourselves thinking about have all told us to do one I believe we have to accept we ain't in contention for trophies in the next couple of years so we don't need a proven winner we need a coach who can get us playing as a team not reliant on individuals, one who even if they can't take us to the top can give us the foundations and the route to the top.
My obvious candidate is Potter and although many of you won't like it I believe he would be the right option. His time at Chelsea is as much or more about that club and the owner who spent a fortune and still never got a striker nor did he seem to understand that Potter wasn't going to give him instant success.
Potter's record at Brighton cannot be questioned, they were everybody's favourite to go down when he took over and he turned around their style of play and their expectations and did it without a striker worth the name there either.
Brighton improved each season and although Di Zerbi is getting the plaudits there's no reason to suppose Potter wouldn't have presided over the same improvement had he still been there. On the other hand if you believe he wouldn't have done, then at least he built the model for Di Zerbi to take forward and even that would be a fucking massive bonus for us at the moment the state we're in.
Seriously we ain't in a place to think about success right now, if anything where we are we need to think about avoiding failure and steaming away from the maelstrom.
On that basis I respectfully put Graham Potter forward as my preferred option as our new coach.
Sorry I didn't moan, attack or slag off anyone and everyone like we're supposed to be doing in this thread but I just thought I'd try something different.
If anybody disagrees with me fine but please make your argument as to why and what is your better option.
 

GMI

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Dec 13, 2006
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If even Mason sees it. And comments on it in a presser. Do you (and I don’t mean you specifically) not think that Levy and the rest of the board do not see it? They are going to be fully aware of how the last few years have been a failure and my take is that they are putting the pieces in place to change that.
I agree. They are well aware of the issues, or most of them, and are working to rectify the situation. There is some evidence to support that and I am optimistic in nature so have to believe it. Whether they are fully equipped to execute the change is up for debate though.
 

Stamford

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Sep 15, 2015
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To give some balance to this, I do live in London, I have had Spurs passed down in the way you say, I have been going for 36 years, and I've now made the choice to stop.

Painful and difficult as it may be, we do all have a choice; and I sympathise with those who feel trapped or that it is impossible to stop going, but it is a choice and it can be done.

I'm the same but i've been going a decade less. If they get this appointment wrong, I'll just sell the tickets on. the exchange or leave the seat unsold. It will kill me as Spurs is a huge part of my life but i cant support this ownership any longer.
 

Danny1

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Dec 6, 2006
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I have to be honest and say I’m surprised that people are still signing up for season tickets. That’s not a dig to those that have at all, however there is no way in a million years I would even think about getting a ST at the minute.

The last thing I want to do is line the pockets of Levy anymore. All the time the stadium is full he does not care one single bit as he will be checking the bank balance and smiling.

The top of this club is rotten, full of people who care not about fans, the football, winning or glory. The only thing they care about is how much money they will end up with at the end of it all. That has been blatantly obvious from the moment they have walked in to the club. We are basically a glorified development business, hotels, concert stadium etc.

The focus is not football, it’s “entertainment and development”. Until that changes we are totally done as a football club.
 

PaulThurston

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Sep 30, 2020
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Ok here's my thoughts, on the understanding that the top names that we've fooled ourselves thinking about have all told us to do one I believe we have to accept we ain't in contention for trophies in the next couple of years so we don't need a proven winner we need a coach who can get us playing as team not reliant on individuals, one who even if they can't take us to the top can give us the foundations and the route to the top.
My obvious candidate is Potter and although many of you won't like it I believe he would be the right option. His time at Chelsea is as much or more about that club and the owner who spent a fortune and still never got a striker nor did he seem to understand that Potter wasn't going to give him instant success.
Potter's record at Brighton cannot be questioned, they were everybody's favourite to go down when he took over and he turned around their style of play and their expectations and did it without a striker worth the name there either.
Brighton improved each season and although Di Zerbi is getting the plaudits there's no reason to suppose Potter wouldn't have presided over the same improvement had he still been there. On the other hand if you believe he wouldn't have done, then at least he built the model for Di Zerbi to take forward and even that would be a fucking massive bonus for us at the moment the state we're in.
Seriously we ain't in a place to think about success right now, if anything where we are we need to think about avoiding failure and steaming away from the maelstrom.
On that basis I respectfully put Graham Potter forward as my preferred option as our new coach.
Sorry I didn't moan, attack or slag off anyone and everyone like we're supposed to be doing in this thread but I just thought I'd try something different.
If anybody disagrees with me fine but please make your argument as to why and what is your better option.
Thank you.

I don't know who we need as a manager but I do know I needed the rationality and pragmatism of this post.
 

tototoner

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Mar 21, 2004
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I have to be honest and say I’m surprised that people are still signing up for season tickets. That’s not a dig to those that have at all, however there is no way in a million years I would even think about getting a ST at the minute.

The last thing I want to do is line the pockets of Levy anymore. All the time the stadium is full he does not care one single bit as he will be checking the bank balance and smiling.

The top of this club is rotten, full of people who care not about fans, the football, winning or glory. The only thing they care about is how much money they will end up with at the end of it all. That has been blatantly obvious from the moment they have walked in to the club. We are basically a glorified development business, hotels, concert stadium etc.

The focus is not football, it’s “entertainment and development”. Until that changes we are totally done as a football club.

“There used to be a football club over there.” Keith Burkinshaw
 

only1waddle

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Jun 18, 2012
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Ok here's my thoughts, on the understanding that the top names that we've fooled ourselves thinking about have all told us to do one I believe we have to accept we ain't in contention for trophies in the next couple of years so we don't need a proven winner we need a coach who can get us playing as team not reliant on individuals, one who even if they can't take us to the top can give us the foundations and the route to the top.
My obvious candidate is Potter and although many of you won't like it I believe he would be the right option. His time at Chelsea is as much or more about that club and the owner who spent a fortune and still never got a striker nor did he seem to understand that Potter wasn't going to give him instant success.
Potter's record at Brighton cannot be questioned, they were everybody's favourite to go down when he took over and he turned around their style of play and their expectations and did it without a striker worth the name there either.
Brighton improved each season and although Di Zerbi is getting the plaudits there's no reason to suppose Potter wouldn't have presided over the same improvement had he still been there. On the other hand if you believe he wouldn't have done, then at least he built the model for Di Zerbi to take forward and even that would be a fucking massive bonus for us at the moment the state we're in.
Seriously we ain't in a place to think about success right now, if anything where we are we need to think about avoiding failure and steaming away from the maelstrom.
On that basis I respectfully put Graham Potter forward as my preferred option as our new coach.
Sorry I didn't moan, attack or slag off anyone and everyone like we're supposed to be doing in this thread but I just thought I'd try something different.
If anybody disagrees with me fine but please make your argument as to why and what is your better option.

I don't think Potter has the strength of character to deal with this club currently, Brighton had already laid out the foundations for him without any toxic, controlling shit going on in the background, he's just had all that nonsense at Chelsea, It would be the wrong move for him IMO
Again, just opinion but I don't see him ever setting up a team like De Zerbi, wouldn't surprise me if RDZ wins a PL with a City/Liverpool etc..
Our best bet is someone with a stronger character that can get the fans onboard and mange upwards with that idiot, Big Ange is the perfect character but it's 50/50 if his football translates.
 

Fredo

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Jun 8, 2018
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Be interested to know how often you go to games. It’s ok saying don’t go but if you’ve been going to nearly every game for years why allow Levy to stop you supporting your team.
You obviously dont get how change works in this world.
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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If only no Europe can slap Levy into slight awakening. But results will be in Villa favour anyway, they just need to match our results to get to the Conference League. If until now Levy is still oblivious to how much we have fallen since the WC, there is really no hope.

Only positive thing will be we can possibly relegate Leicester, which will be funny how they won the league and got us ridiculed. And hopefully that send Everton down too if possible.
At least they still have the trophy and it was us who imploded!
 
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