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Reece_Spurs · May 21, 2023

Yiddo100 said:
I think the nagelsmann talks are dead and have been ever since, 1 pretty unreliable journo said it was back on and people got excited. Turns out it was a load of bollocks.

I'm not talking about the recent tweets, they're a load of bollocks, but I do think if we appointed a DOF that Nagelsmann liked, new talks aren't out of the realms of possibility.

McFlash · May 21, 2023

essexyiddo27 said:
Anyone else kinda baffled Thomas Frank isn’t being spoken about as more of a target. Maybe I put too much on prem experience but he’s done a fantastic job in past two years.

I think Frank has done a great job at Brentford but he's not one for me, they're a very simple team relying on long balls, long throws and set-pieces.
Maybe he plays that way because of the players he's got and it can't be said that it's not effective, it's just not what I want us to be.

Ginola+Tonic · May 21, 2023

There’s no way after doubling down on us not wanting Nagelsmann and getting Ally Gold etc to state this that we appoint him now.

Yid Arne!!!

Ghost Hardware · May 21, 2023

RuskyM said:
Appointing a DoF to appease a manager seems a little like tail wagging dog, no?

We need a DoF regardless, we will need one with Slot just as much as we would need one with Nagelsmann. It’s not about appeasing Nagelsmann, he just wants to know who he’s getting in bed with before he commits probably because he’s concerned about a repeat of what happened at BM. That’s just foresight, it’s not a bad thing and I have no idea why it’s been twisted into him being “demanding”.

A DoF should 100% come before we hire a manager, even if our shortlist of managers is limited to Slot and Amorim.

JamieSpursCommunityUser · May 21, 2023

PrettyColors said:
Exactly. That is the exact point I’m making. It has fuck all to do with money. He requires competence from the board room and alignment with the sporting director. Meanwhile, our current director is banned from football.

Levy is the polar opposite of that in all respects.

we need a manager who either a) is used to making do with scraps (Slot) and has no expectations for being backed transfer wise or b) someone with Stockholm Syndrome who is OK with being constantly let down by Levy.

We don't have a current Director. We sacked him.

We have a Chief Football Officer and are recruiting a senior person to replace Paratici, title TBC.

Either we really are empowering that person, or it's all rubbish and Levy's up to his old tricks again.

This is the real choice, regardless of who we appoint as Head Coach.

Does Levy hire some serious football brains and empower them to lead recruitment?

Or does he use Paratici's departure as a power grab to further interfere with more stupid irrelevant signings, disjointed rebuilds to managers tactics, and hoarding dead wood on our wage bill to prevent better trades and progress?

I don't agree that Nagelsamann is a Chelsea lite route or that Slot is a contrast towards Modern Data lead recruitment and better player development.

They've both been successful at it (JN in tougher competitions with bigger competitors and better coaches).

The problem I don't think is our budget or JN's financial demands. It's Levy's obsession with control, which he's absolutely terrible at.

He's cost the club £300m+ overseeing wasteful disjointed recruitment, and likely all Europe revenue next season by appointing Stellini.

If Levy worked for Levy he'd have been fired long ago.

Yapptiestrap · May 21, 2023

mil1lion said:
There's every chance that we have always wanted Slot and still want Slot but it wont be confirmed until we get the DOF. Besides the season isn't over yet so we shouldn't get so impatient.

There’s also the chance they hire Slot, then the DOF comes in and thinks he’s shit. You hire a DOF first.

JamieSpursCommunityUser · May 21, 2023

RuskyM said:
Appointing a DoF to appease a manager seems a little like tail wagging dog, no?

I agree, if you are compromising the DOF pick JUST to appease the Coach.

However if the DOF candidate suggested happens to be the best you've interviewed in your search..

..then surely you hire him and work forward from there with the Coach he wants?

Hoopspur · May 21, 2023

arunspurs said:
I am at a stage now, dont care whom we get as manager in the shortlist of Slot , JN, Amorim, DeZerbi....as long as we get one ASAP.

We need the manager & start planning for next seaosn, from who has to be moved, who has to be retained , which kind of players manager needs.

Every week we delay, more trouble we will be, to get the rebuild done.

I don’t think we are delaying. I think it’s taking it’s proper course.

purple8 · May 21, 2023

McFlash said:
I think Frank has done a great job at Brentford but he's not one for me, they're a very simple team relying on long balls, long throws and set-pieces.
Maybe he plays that way because of the players he's got and it can't be said that it's not effective, it's just not what I want us to be.

Agree . Did you see the possession and shot stats for yesterday. Dint we just get rid of Conte and morinio for similar

muppetman · May 21, 2023

JamieSpursCommunityUser said:
We don't have a current Director. We sacked him.

We have a Chief Football Officer and are recruiting a senior person to replace Paratici, title TBC.

Either we really are empowering that person, or it's all rubbish and Levy's up to his old tricks again.

This is the real choice, regardless of who we appoint.

Does Levy hire some serious football brains and empower them to lead recruitment? As has underpinned Slot and Nagelsmann's recent success.

Or does he use Paratici's departure as a power grab to further interfere with more stupid irrelevant signings, disjointed rebuilds to managers tactics, and hoarding dead wood on our wage bill to prevent better trades and progress?

I don't agree that Nagelsamann is a Chelsea lite route or that Slot is a contrast towards Modern Data lead recruitment and better player development.

They've both been successful at it (JN in tougher competitions with bigger competitors and better coaches).

The problem I don't think is our budget or JN's financial demands. It's Levy's obsession with control, which he's absolutely terrible at.

He's cost the club £300m+ overseeing wasteful disjointed recruitment, and likely all Europe revenue next season by appointing Stellini.

If Levy worked for Levy he'd have been fired long ago.

Doesn't he literally own a significant portion of the club? Not sure he needs to "grab" power?

Led Revolver · May 21, 2023

Happy just to wait and see now. I can see the merits in getting Slot or Nagelsmann, providing either one has a director of football they can work with. Someone else though and I’d feel like it was a bit of a slippery slope now however.

Journalists seem to be getting hold of different bits of info all the time so I‘ve run out of energy even trying to keep up with the speculation in the media.

Our own ITK’s are the best though. Sod the hacks!

arunspurs · May 21, 2023

Hoopspur said:
I don’t think we are delaying. I think it’s taking it’s proper course.

At the moment it looks we are not delaying. But let’s be honest - we have 2 positions to fill in DOF & Manager.

If Slot is our no1 choice I expect it to happen soon.

Some sort of speed is required so as to send a message to players on what to expect with new manager. And fans to need to know soon where club stands .
Preseason starts July 1st week. That gives us just 40 days from today. we need to get the manager sorted by end if this month and start moving in the market

Bluto Blutarsky · May 21, 2023

RuskyM said:
Appointing a DoF to appease a manager seems a little like tail wagging dog, no?

Depends on the role of the "DOF".

If we are really just hiring a Head of Recruitment, for instance, then a manager might want to work with someone they trust.

ShriekinKnight · May 21, 2023

So Gold and Romano both said "if the DoF and JN really want to work together they could reopen talks" which makes that weird press blast Spurs did a week ago even more bizarre.

So easy to leak the message "we are focused on appointing a [insert job title here] first and foremost and taking their input toward the next manager" instead of "We aren't even going interview JN, he is not on the list"

teddy1066 · May 21, 2023

ShriekinKnight said:
So Gold and Romano both said "if the DoF and JN really want to work together they could reopen talks" which makes that weird press blast Spurs did a week ago even more bizarre.

So easy to leak the message "we are focused on appointing a [insert job title here] first and foremost and taking their input toward the next manager" instead of "We aren't even going interview JN, he is not on the list"

We have to remember the levels of incompetence running through our club

Hoopspur · May 21, 2023

arunspurs said:
At the moment it looks we are not delaying. But let’s be honest - we have 2 positions to fill in DOF & Manager.

If Slot is our no1 choice I expect it to happen soon.

Some sort of speed is required so as to send a message to players on what to expect with new manager. And fans to need to know soon where club stands .
Preseason starts July 1st week. That gives us just 40 days from today. we need to get the manager sorted by end if this month and start moving in the market

I still think after the 28th, but ‘I no nuffink’. If it starts getting to 2-3 weeks then it’s probably a little more concerning, but maybe to us more than the powers that be. All this time though we are on the outside looking in.

JamieSpursCommunityUser · May 21, 2023

muppetman said:
Doesn't he literally own a significant portion of the club? Not sure he needs to "grab" power?

Hoopspur said:
With ENIC International Limited holding 85.55% of Spurs, Levy and his family own 29.4% of ENIC with Lewis owning 70.6%, while having a net worth of £4.33bn.15 Feb 2023

Not insignificant. Sorry I will desist.

I've been triggered by Levy (again!) and gone rather off topic, sorry Lads and Ladies.

Deleted and moved this to the Levy thread.

The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

There's telling the truth and then there's absolving yourself of any responsibility. He got some things wrong definitely. But what he said was bang on and he’s been proven right since.

spurscommunity.co.uk

Hoopspur · May 21, 2023

JamieSpursCommunityUser said:
He's a minority shareholder, so he's accountable to the other shareholders.

His job on behalf of the shareholders is to add value in assets and revenues by building a sporting structure of the best football brains our money can buy.

To empower them, whilst providing the oversight of governance and due diligence.

His job is NOT to loose the majority shareholders hundreds of millions of pounds by insisting in involving himself in decisions he doesn't understand.

Our resident Land Economist has lost us £300,000,000 on bad or disjointed recruitment, whilst making the team worse, and falling out of Europe completely and all it's lost revenues.

Minority shareholder CEOs are often rightly removed for incompetence and poor performance, regardless of their past accomplishments.

If he weren't so intertwined with Joe Lewis in his other business dealings, he'd be rightly removed too.

With ENIC International Limited holding 85.55% of Spurs, Levy and his family own 29.4% of ENIC with Lewis owning 70.6%, while having a net worth of £4.33bn.15 Feb 2023

Not insignificant. Sorry I will desist.

jay2040 · May 21, 2023

teddy1066 said:
We have to remember the levels of incompetence running through our club

Yes fair point though we are still mid season so it's not unreasonable for nothing official for a bit.

jay2040 · May 21, 2023

Hoopspur said:
With ENIC International Limited holding 85.55% of Spurs, Levy and his family own 29.4% of ENIC with Lewis owning 70.6%, while having a net worth of £4.33bn.15 Feb 2023

Not insignificant. Sorry I will desist.

Fucking hell. Either you googled that shit or just know it. Well done. Though not relevant to this thread.

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