Next Manager Watch

parklane yid said:

What’s changed with Levy, he has always historically been so quick to replace managers.

Jol with Ramos
Poch with mourinho

to name a few

why has he more recently been so indecisive?

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I mentioned this in my post above, he either has a preconceived idea/manager he has the horn for (Ramos, Redknapp, Mourinho) OR if not then it takes him an absolute age to decide because he doesn't fundamentally understand football and never will and he overanalyses everything and is too easily influenced by the other board members, agents, DofF etc so far too many voices and opinions added to a guy who doesn't and will never really know what he is doing as he is not a football specialist and never will be.

With Jose for example on the AON documentary he said (min 1:02 in) "There are in my mind two top top coaches in the world, one of them is at another PL club and the other one is Jose" we also know that Levy tried to hire Jose a number of time previously.


The issue with this approach with for example hiring Jose no matter what was that it was too simple, Levy didn't and isn't able to think about the wider picture and ingredients needed to create a high functioning cohesive, successful, football operation and why would he, the guy has never played or coached football at any level, he is and will always be first and foremost an Accountant a money man.

So when he doesn't have a preconceived idea as to what/who he wants e.g. Ramos, Redknapp, Mouriniho, THEN we end up with this very drawn out long process of overanalysing and jumping from one idea to the next and this is fundamentally our n.o1 issue.

Mason and Kane both said it recently, clubs need a plan, a philosophy and they need consistency for success and we have none of those under Levy.

I just hope and pray that by a stroke of luck the next Manager he lands on is the right fit and the DofF somehow is also the right fit and we can slowly build from there, the fact they had the internal football review from external consultant and appointed Munn who is formerly City Group is the only thing that gives me some semblance of hope that the next Manager we land on might be a good fit but with Donna and the rest of the board and other agents all in Levy's ear and no DofF in place those factors concern me in-line with Trix's ITK.

We just have to all cross our fingers and toes and hope the pin the roulette as to who we land on is a Manager who can identify with our clubs real true values and DNA and that they are given time and control to build a new exciting project.

Karol said:

Think of the money saved in wages

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We were still paying them not to be in charge

Chris Flynn said:

So i know Ally Gold is a club mouthpiece but is he also semi independant? Doing an interview with Vorm about how good Slot is could be telling if he isnt independant at all?

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He isn't a club mouthpiece, if you watch his videos you will see that

Trix said:

Maybe mouthpiece is the wrong word he's certainly one of the main guys they go to when they want to put their own spin out there though if that makes sense. I'm glad he's called them out on this one though because he'd have been made to look like a BS merchant if he had of just followed their line and doubled down on the "we haven't spoken to Nagelsmann" rubbish they have tried to get across.

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To be fair ally has been calling them out for months now, he has been as critical as all of us at the current farce

HodisGawd said:

Nah. I've never understood this idea that Levy "isn't a football man" and "doesn't get it".

The guy knows more about Tottenham Hotspur and football than everyone on this forum put together. He has part-owned a football club for 20 years. He knows it top from bottom. He's there every day. He has signed and sold over a hundred players. He knows and is known by everyone in football. He practically runs the Premier League. He is executive chairman of the European Club Association.

He has hundreds of millions of pounds invested in the club - if you're hurt when we lose, imagine how you'd feel if you were him watching the club you support go down the pan and have a fortune riding on!

If you think you know more about football than him, you're deluding yourself. In fact, it's just utterly laughable to think that you do. You are a fan, I am a fan. We are not in the game in the same way as he is, managers are and players are.

The problem isn't that he "isn't a football man" or "doesn't get it". The problem is that he hasn't been making the right choices and, certainly recently, hasn't been good at the football side of his job.

We need Levy to get a new DoF in who isn't a criminal and is better and who can take the whole lot off him.

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New levels even for the BSODL this.

Trix said:

We were still paying them not to be in charge

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No wonder Slot wants the job

HodisGawd said:

We need Levy to get a new DoF in who isn't a criminal and is better and who can take the whole lot off him.

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Why does Levy need a DOF if he knows so much about football?

Is Donna Cullen an expert at football? She has been at the club as a director since 2006, and consulted for club for 14 years prior.

What about Joe Lewis? He has owned the club as long as Levy, and Levy reports to him.


Being a finance whiz, does not make one an expert in football. If Levy actually knew so much about football, he would have sacked the guy who keeps having to change managers so frequently...

HodisGawd said:

Nah. I've never understood this idea that Levy "isn't a football man" and "doesn't get it".

The guy knows more about Tottenham Hotspur and football than everyone on this forum put together. He has part-owned a football club for 20 years. He knows it top from bottom. He's there every day. He has signed and sold over a hundred players. He knows and is known by everyone in football. He practically runs the Premier League. He is executive chairman of the European Club Association.

He has hundreds of millions of pounds invested in the club - if you're hurt when we lose, imagine how you'd feel if you were him watching the club you support go down the pan and have a fortune riding on!

If you think you know more about football than him, you're deluding yourself. In fact, it's just utterly laughable to think that you do. You are a fan, I am a fan. We are not in the game in the same way as he is, managers are and players are.

The problem isn't that he "isn't a football man" or "doesn't get it". The problem is that he hasn't been making the right choices and, certainly recently, hasn't been good at the football side of his job.

We need Levy to get a new DoF in who isn't a criminal and is better and who can take the whole lot off him.

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Hi, Daniel.

HodisGawd said:

Nah. I've never understood this idea that Levy "isn't a football man" and "doesn't get it".

The guy knows more about Tottenham Hotspur and football than everyone on this forum put together. He has part-owned a football club for 20 years. He knows it top from bottom. He's there every day. He has signed and sold over a hundred players. He knows and is known by everyone in football. He practically runs the Premier League. He is executive chairman of the European Club Association.

He has hundreds of millions of pounds invested in the club - if you're hurt when we lose, imagine how you'd feel if you were him watching the club you support go down the pan and have a fortune riding on!

If you think you know more about football than him, you're deluding yourself. In fact, it's just utterly laughable to think that you do. You are a fan, I am a fan. We are not in the game in the same way as he is, managers are and players are.

The problem isn't that he "isn't a football man" or "doesn't get it". The problem is that he hasn't been making the right choices and, certainly recently, hasn't been good at the football side of his job.

We need Levy to get a new DoF in who isn't a criminal and is better and who can take the whole lot off him.

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When people say he isn’t a football man they are not referring to the business of football, the contracts, the stadium sponsorship, the accounting, we know he is a clever businessman.

They are referring to actual football, the game itself of which he isn’t an expert anymore than any fan. He wasn’t a player, a coach, a manager. He has shown he doesn’t have any football style (just look at our manager appointments).

This is fine if he delegates the squad building, manager hires to a sporting director who has a clear idea of the type of football we want to play and long term is allow to recruit to that. Yet the info from ITK is that he and the board don’t seem to delegate this, they interfere in matters they don’t understand and thus we make a mess of it.

HodisGawd said:

I like the idea of Arne Slot.

But I don't like the idea of singing "Arne Slot do do do do doo" to the tune of Baby Shark.

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Id take Nuno back over having to here baby shark.

For the love of Spurs said:

When people say he isn’t a football man they are not referring to the business of football, the contracts, the stadium sponsorship, the accounting, we know he is a clever businessman.

They are referring to actual football, the game itself of which he isn’t an expert anymore than any fan. He wasn’t a player, a coach, a manager. He has shown he doesn’t have any football style (just look at our manager appointments).

This is fine if he delegates the squad building, manager hires to a sporting director who has a clear idea of the type of football we want to play and long term is allow to recruit to that. Yet the info from ITK is that he and the board don’t seem to delegate this, they interfere in matters they don’t understand and thus we make a mess of it.

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doesn't seem to know much about Stadium naming rights ?

jurgen11 said:

doesn't seem to know much about Stadium naming rights ?

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well yeh you got me on that

Chris Flynn said:

So i know Ally Gold is a club mouthpiece but is he also semi independant? Doing an interview with Vorm about how good Slot is could be telling if he isnt independant at all?

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Christ, people are so black and white. AG is an independent journalist who works for a different organisation than Spurs.

But if he was frothing at the mouth, slagging the club off every week then of course he would lose many of the contacts within the club that he’s worked hard to build up to get information.

He’s got a symbiotic relationship with the club. They need to use him sometimes and he needs their information. Same as politics and entertainment journalists.

I know the current season is still going, but what I find crazy is as of this Thursday we will be two months away from our first pre season game on the 18th of July and I feel like we are no closer to appointing a manger then we were on the 26th of March when we fired Conte. This really is going to be worse then the Nuno debarcle isn't it.

Spursmatty87 said:

Id take Nuno back over having to here baby shark.

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doo-doo, doo-doo

Trix said:

New levels even for the BSODL this.

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I'm not defending him. If you actually read what I say to the bitter end, you'll see I'm saying he's done a shit job.

For the love of Spurs said:

When people say he isn’t a football man they are not referring to the business of football, the contracts, the stadium sponsorship, the accounting, we know he is a clever businessman.

They are referring to actual football, the game itself of which he isn’t an expert anymore than any fan. He wasn’t a player, a coach, a manager. He has shown he doesn’t have any football style (just look at our manager appointments).

This is fine if he delegates the squad building, manager hires to a sporting director who has a clear idea of the type of football we want to play and long term is allow to recruit to that. Yet the info from ITK is that he and the board don’t seem to delegate this, they interfere in matters they don’t understand and thus we make a mess of it.

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He's a chairman - of course, he's not been a player/coach/manager.

His role is to look after numbers. The problem is he hasn't employed the right people to look after the football.

Trix said:

We have now been managerless for 4 months since April 21.

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HodisGawd said:

I'm not defending him. If you actually read what I say to the bitter end, you'll see I'm saying he's done a shit job.

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You said "Levy knows more about Tottenham than the entire forum put together" and also that " you don't get why people say he isn't a 'football person' and 'doesn't get it' "

You then proceed to finish by saying "The problem is that he hasn't been making the right choices and, certainly recently, hasn't been good at the football side of his job"

Perhaps maybe just maybe he's not good at the football side of his job and hasn't been making the right choices because erm... he's not a football person and doesn't 'get it'

Spursmatty87 said:

Id take Nuno back over having to here baby shark.

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What about: "ole ole ole ole Arne Slot Slot Slot"?