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bubble07 · Mar 28, 2023

spurs9 said:
From my personal perspective:

- Plays good football.
- Versatile with his formations, doesn't just stick with 1 (plays 4-3-3, 4-1-2-1, 3-4-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 and 3-5-2.
- Has been successful in constant rebuilds.
- Successful in working in a Chaotic environment, with River constantly selling best players and replacing with youth.
- Instills a winning mentality (his 2 Copa Libertadores sides were 3 years apart yet had only had 2 players the same in two finals, inc subs).
- Has Longevity with a single team, as he has been with River for 8 years.
- He has been in 8 finals of multi round comps and won 6 of them (narrowly lost one to a superior (player for player) Flamengo team 2-1 to an injury time goal and got heavily beat 4-1 by a much superior Barcelona team in the World Club Cup).
- Those 6 wins include 2 x Cope Libertadores, which is the SA equivalent to the CL, 1 x Copa Sudamericana, which is SA equivalent to Europa League and 3 x Argentine equivalent to FA Cups.
- He has also won 7 out of 9 in single round finals (e.g. Super Cups and equivalent of Charity Shield).
- In addition to the cup wins has also won a league title.
- Has been successful in more than 1 league (won the league in Uruguay)
- Whilst he hasn't managed in Europe, the Argentinian league is closer in style (definitely not quality) to the PL than Spain, Italy, France or Germany, as it is fast and aggressive.
- Brighton seem to know what they are doing and he was first choice to replace Potter (Ange Postecoglou was 2nd choice with De Zerbi 3rd).
- His style is a pass and move style which historically was considered the "Tottenham way".

Really want us to play 4-3-1-2

Stavrogin · Mar 28, 2023

Dazzazzad said:
Chin up mate. We actually have the tools in place, from infrastructure to playing staff) that 99.9% of clubs would be dreaming of.

Finding a good manager that fits is like finding a great relationship - not as easy as it seems. Incredibly we actually have one of the more stable records for managers over the past 2 decades.

Every season we see examples of how a good manager-club fit can have very quick and impressive impacts. Like Kompany taking Burnley from route one to sexy football. Villa and Newcastle being two other examples this season.

We'll miss more often than we hit (like every other club) but eventually we'll get another Poch like hit and it'll make supporters feel part of something wonderful again.

Exactly. I'd be really excited to see what can happen if we can hire the right guy or woman.

We've never really got the the stage of playing good football consistently in the new stadium. We have a lot of players now, there's a lot of scope to see a new looking team emerge. There are some good prospects that could start contributing. Plus we'll be replacing Lloris, Cbs and, presumably, we'd look to add some more creative players. If we can find the right guy, it could be a fun period.

Don't forget, at the start of last season, Arsenal looked like they might get relegated.

Beefyboy · Mar 28, 2023

gavspur said:
I think JN will turn us down, Zerbi will too, and Poch. We won’t ask Gallardo. Amorim will be too expensive. We will end up with Postecoglu, which I wouldn’t be upset with and could actually turn out quite well.

This is why I'm not actually that worried about this manger search...there's *so many* good options that even if we contrive to cock up 2 or 3 of them we still will be in a pretty good shape. Throw in Slot and Enrique to the ones you mentioned and its a far cry from Rodgers, Martinez and Parker etc.

Christ that was a bleak time

McFlash · Mar 28, 2023

Harrier said:
‘The same players have got four managers sacked’ is just lazy narrative perpetuated to play to the gallery, in much the same way as blaming every single issue on Levy without providing a constructive argument as to why!

I get your point in the players but there are plenty of reasons to blame much of the state we're in on Levy.
Granted, there are some in here that take it too far and blame him for the fact that it's raining but he's certainly at fault for the chaos we've been in for the past few years (on the field at least).

Levy's faults have been outlined many times by some of the more reasoned posters on here but I'll admit that it's easy to miss amid the hyperbole and bullshit.

Harrier · Mar 28, 2023

McFlash said:
I get your point in the players but there are plenty of reasons to blame much of the state we're in on Levy.
Granted, there are some in here that take it too far and blame him for the fact that it's raining but he's certainly at fault for the chaos we've been in for the past few years (on the field at least).

Levy's faults have been outlined many times by some of the more reasoned posters on here but I'll admit that it's easy to miss amid the hyperbole and bullshit.

I’m not arguing at all that Levy is at fault for a lot of it, just not necessarily ALL of it.

McFlash · Mar 28, 2023

Harrier said:
I’m not arguing at all that Levy is at fault for a lot of it, just not necessarily ALL of it.

Yeah, there are plenty who seem unable to see all the good he's done for us as a club.
I've said plenty of times that if he could just appoint a decent DoF and leave them to it, we'd be in a much better place because there's no doubt that he's been brilliant for building our club and brand, he just sucks at the football side of things.

i was a BSoDL until recently but Conte was his last roll for me and while I don't particularly want new owners, I want someone else in charge of the playing side.

lennon180 · Mar 28, 2023

Russ1201 said:
Am i missing something what is the big deal about Postecoglu? I admit i'm not very educated about his career but even i could manage that Celtic team in a one horse league as nearest competition Rangers are far away at the moment.

You couldn’t though could you, let’s be honest. He’s a good manager who’s team play good football. Rather than ask people what’s he like and then state you could do the job he does by implying it’s easy, why don’t you go watch Celtic and make your own mind up about how they play under him. It’s not hard and you’ll learn wether you like him or not!

For the love of Spurs · Mar 28, 2023

spurs9 said:
From my personal perspective:

- Plays good football.
- Versatile with his formations, doesn't just stick with 1 (plays 4-3-3, 4-1-2-1, 3-4-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 and 3-5-2.
- Has been successful in constant rebuilds.
- Successful in working in a Chaotic environment, with River constantly selling best players and replacing with youth.
- Instills a winning mentality (his 2 Copa Libertadores sides were 3 years apart yet had only had 2 players the same in two finals, inc subs).
- Has Longevity with a single team, as he has been with River for 8 years.
- He has been in 8 finals of multi round comps and won 6 of them (narrowly lost one to a superior (player for player) Flamengo team 2-1 to an injury time goal and got heavily beat 4-1 by a much superior Barcelona team in the World Club Cup).
- Those 6 wins include 2 x Cope Libertadores, which is the SA equivalent to the CL, 1 x Copa Sudamericana, which is SA equivalent to Europa League and 3 x Argentine equivalent to FA Cups.
- He has also won 7 out of 9 in single round finals (e.g. Super Cups and equivalent of Charity Shield).
- In addition to the cup wins has also won a league title.
- Has been successful in more than 1 league (won the league in Uruguay)
- Whilst he hasn't managed in Europe, the Argentinian league is closer in style (definitely not quality) to the PL than Spain, Italy, France or Germany, as it is fast and aggressive.
- Brighton seem to know what they are doing and he was first choice to replace Potter (Ange Postecoglou was 2nd choice with De Zerbi 3rd).
- His style is a pass and move style which historically was considered the "Tottenham way".

If he was Brighton’s number one then you know you are on to a winner with how they operate.

ntmac82 · Mar 28, 2023

spurs9 said:
From my personal perspective:

- Plays good football.
- Versatile with his formations, doesn't just stick with 1 (plays 4-3-3, 4-1-2-1, 3-4-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 and 3-5-2.
- Has been successful in constant rebuilds.
- Successful in working in a Chaotic environment, with River constantly selling best players and replacing with youth.
- Instills a winning mentality (his 2 Copa Libertadores sides were 3 years apart yet had only had 2 players the same in two finals, inc subs).
- Has Longevity with a single team, as he has been with River for 8 years.
- He has been in 8 finals of multi round comps and won 6 of them (narrowly lost one to a superior (player for player) Flamengo team 2-1 to an injury time goal and got heavily beat 4-1 by a much superior Barcelona team in the World Club Cup).
- Those 6 wins include 2 x Cope Libertadores, which is the SA equivalent to the CL, 1 x Copa Sudamericana, which is SA equivalent to Europa League and 3 x Argentine equivalent to FA Cups.
- He has also won 7 out of 9 in single round finals (e.g. Super Cups and equivalent of Charity Shield).
- In addition to the cup wins has also won a league title.
- Has been successful in more than 1 league (won the league in Uruguay)
- Whilst he hasn't managed in Europe, the Argentinian league is closer in style (definitely not quality) to the PL than Spain, Italy, France or Germany, as it is fast and aggressive.
- Brighton seem to know what they are doing and he was first choice to replace Potter (Ange Postecoglou was 2nd choice with De Zerbi 3rd).
- His style is a pass and move style which historically was considered the "Tottenham way".

Sounds like we could be on to a winner with him but im not sure any manager playing 4-1-2-1 with our squad would do well. We struggle with 11 players on the pitch

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2023

spurs9 said:
From my personal perspective:

- Plays good football.
- Versatile with his formations, doesn't just stick with 1 (plays 4-3-3, 4-1-2-1, 3-4-3, 4-2-3-1, 4-4-2 and 3-5-2.
- Has been successful in constant rebuilds.
- Successful in working in a Chaotic environment, with River constantly selling best players and replacing with youth.
- Instills a winning mentality (his 2 Copa Libertadores sides were 3 years apart yet had only had 2 players the same in two finals, inc subs).
- Has Longevity with a single team, as he has been with River for 8 years.
- He has been in 8 finals of multi round comps and won 6 of them (narrowly lost one to a superior (player for player) Flamengo team 2-1 to an injury time goal and got heavily beat 4-1 by a much superior Barcelona team in the World Club Cup).
- Those 6 wins include 2 x Cope Libertadores, which is the SA equivalent to the CL, 1 x Copa Sudamericana, which is SA equivalent to Europa League and 3 x Argentine equivalent to FA Cups.
- He has also won 7 out of 9 in single round finals (e.g. Super Cups and equivalent of Charity Shield).
- In addition to the cup wins has also won a league title.
- Has been successful in more than 1 league (won the league in Uruguay)
- Whilst he hasn't managed in Europe, the Argentinian league is closer in style (definitely not quality) to the PL than Spain, Italy, France or Germany, as it is fast and aggressive.
- Brighton seem to know what they are doing and he was first choice to replace Potter (Ange Postecoglou was 2nd choice with De Zerbi 3rd).
- His style is a pass and move style which historically was considered the "Tottenham way".

Just to add to this, I thought I would go into more depth about his time in Uruguay. He was there the season before as a player and they won the title, he took over the same summer as retiring as a player. They sold their main striker who was top goalscorer in the league, with 7 goals more than anyone else and their best defender (Coates, who was sold to Liverpool). Despite that, after a slow start, they won the league again, with more wins and draws and a higher goal difference than the season before. He was only there as manager that season, as he decided he needed to learn more before becoming a coach permanently.

I also found the below snippet about his time there and find the parts in bold even more encouraging:

"At Nacional, things did not get off to the best of starts. Gallardo’s first game in charge was a 3-3 draw with River Plate of Montevideo, which was followed by a quick elimination from the Copa Sudamericana in 2011 by Universidad de Chile, and a loss to Bella Vista 1-0. Gallardo’s early coaching career hung by a string. It was after a harsh talk in the locker room with his players and the backing of Sporting Director Daniel Enríquez that it all turned around. Nacional would go on to win seven out of eight games, including a 2-1 win over arch rivals Peñarol.

Gallardo would eventually go on to win the 2011-12 Uruguayan championship, his first title as a coach. Along the way he learned how to manage a group of players who at times were not the best professionals, but also discovered through team leaders like Álvaro Recoba, Andres Scotti, and Alexander Medina, a way to get to the group and project his ideas."

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2023

ntmac82 said:
Sounds like we could be on to a winner with him but im not sure any manager playing 4-1-2-1 with our squad would do well. We struggle with 11 players on the pitch

Shit, forgot that formation had strikers, have edited.

mil1lion · Mar 28, 2023

JSpurs1 said:
Yeah but go kart track in stadium

New manager announced. Welcome Super Mario!

Russ1201 · Mar 28, 2023

lennon180 said:
You couldn’t though could you, let’s be honest. He’s a good manager who’s team play good football. Rather than ask people what’s he like and then state you could do the job he does by implying it’s easy, why don’t you go watch Celtic and make your own mind up about how they play under him. It’s not hard and you’ll learn wether you like him or not!

I didn't say i liked him or not. I admited i didn't know much about him and mentioned that the Scottish league is very weak and that i couldn't judge by this.
Was just my opinion!

curlacious · Mar 28, 2023

Honestly, who do Brighton have their eye on to replace De Zerbi?

jpascavitz · Mar 28, 2023

curlacious said:
Honestly, who do Brighton have their eye on to replace De Zerbi?

They wanted Ange before De Zerbi so my guess is they would target him again

Strikeb4ck · Mar 29, 2023

Beefyboy said:
This is why I'm not actually that worried about this manger search...there's *so many* good options that even if we contrive to cock up 2 or 3 of them we still will be in a pretty good shape. Throw in Slot and Enrique to the ones you mentioned and its a far cry from Rodgers, Martinez and Parker etc.

Christ that was a bleak time

Yep...Nagelsmann, Poch, Gallardo, De Zerbi, Slot, Amorim, Enrique, Ange, Kompany...if we end up with one of them we'll be fine. Who actually does the best with our squad of those names is anyone's guess.

I'd be a bit disappointed if somehow we ended up with the likes of Frank, Cooper, Glasner, etc though.

coy-spurs1882 · Mar 29, 2023

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
The players: the training is boring and repetitive. We’re tired and it sucks.

Paratici: [on retaining Stellini] the players don’t have to change habits or the style of training.

Absolutely brilliant. I’m sure they’ll love that. This club is a circus.

A circus is more entertaining to watch than our football

IamSpurtacus · Mar 29, 2023

Archibald&Crooks said:
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Spursmatty87 · Mar 29, 2023

Russ1201 said:
Am i missing something what is the big deal about Postecoglu? I admit i'm not very educated about his career but even i could manage that Celtic team in a one horse league as nearest competition Rangers are far away at the moment.

No you couldn’t, Rangers won the league the year before and Celtic were in a big mess when he took over. I’d liken what’s he’s done as similar(but more impressive) than Kompany at Burnley.

Celtic needed a change in style and playing staff. I’d also have a look at his work previously with the Australian national team and clubs across Asia.

Obviously Nagelsmann and Poch would be the top choices after that I’d be happy one of De Zerbi or Ange.

Carson35 · Mar 29, 2023

i am wondering if it's down to these 2 guys, who would you rather have and why? 2 guys who are not the most popular picks among fans but look quite interesting...

Ange Postecoglou and Arne Slot

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