Next Manager Watch

DenverSpur said:

I think everyone is overthinking things here. JN has just been surprisingly sacked from his dream job a few days ago and we had to make an announcement about Conte before the players return to training on Monday. Given that timescale I think it is unrealistic to expect JN to have made any decision by today about what he wants to do next let alone whether he wants manage Tottenham. For all we know he may have gone off on a bender to drown his sorrows. Especially when it’s impossible to say what, if any, European competition we will be in next season. There is a lot for everyone to consider and I don’t understand why people expect it to be so rushed.

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There will be some on here who will believe Levy engineered the JN/BM sacking to get a run at JN.

If we dont act quickly, chelsea will sack potter and get nagelsmann

Archibald&Crooks said:

This gives Chelsea the opportunity to sack Potter, nip in for Nagelsmann and leave the way clear for us to complete the swap and get the man who Levy has an ache in his gooch for.

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Hope not. Don’t rate Potter.

ItsBoris said:

If we dont act quickly, chelsea will sack potter and get nagelsmann

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That could happen. We take Potter.

ItsBoris said:

If we dont act quickly, chelsea will sack potter and get nagelsmann

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potter then goes back to Brighton with ze Derbi going to Liverpool as Klopp needs a rest.

ItsBoris said:

If we dont act quickly, chelsea will sack potter and get nagelsmann

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That we can't control unfortunately....Nagelsmann must want to come to us. Must want to.be involved in the project. Must want to manage us because later Chelsea would need to only lift their skirt and he'd go running drooling. I want a Poch....type who wants to be here. who refers to our club as we and not " They" as Conte did in his rant.

I don't understand the problem here. There was one manager available that was a stand out choice (Tuchel) we went for him and then Bayern took him.

Now we have one stand out choice (Nagelsmann) and he wants to wait until the summer. We have two options, we can panic hire someone now, or we can let Stellini and Mason take the reigns for the rest of the season and wait until the summer.

Of course if we fuck about in summer like we did the Nuno summer then there will be time to bitch. But for now I think this is the right decision.

piedpiper said:

We'll be fine.... Levy and Co will get to work in the background on the next managerial appointment. I'm sure by the seasons end we will all have an idea.

A managerial target won't decide on coming based in CL or EL etc. It will be based on our ambition, clearing of the decks etc. a proper plan and his ability to take the team forward.

Regardless of whether Paratici stays or not I highly doubt Levy will allow him the opportunity to appoint another defensive manager. Levy is at most games home and away.... he has seen the rubbish on display.... Levy is a fan too... he isn't stupid he knows and understands that the proven winner managers haven't worked ( I don't blame him for trying that approach)

They have 6 weeks to appoint the right man and also resolve Harry Kanes future. It’s not all doom and gloom.

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I bet this is the same story line you gave the rats in Hamelin.

DenverSpur said:

I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.

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I think it's more the boring soulless football that got him sacked.

It's a bit surprising that Stellini stayed on. It won't surprise anyone if it's true that we don't have a clear picture of who we would like to hire as the next permanent manager.

While having a caretaker until the end of the season is never a good look, it can end well if they secure Nagelsmann, Poch, or another suitably attack-minded manager with a decent profile. That would ideally be announced prior to the season ends on May 29th, or immediately afterwards.

I reckon the timing of that will reveal quite a bit, becasue if it drags into post season then we've either boxed ourselves into negotiating with someone who is reluctant to join us, or we haven't a clue about how we want to proceed.

Let's hope for the best I suppose.

"Paulo, call for you, mate"




"Great, I love getting calls. Did they say who it is?"





"Yeah, says his name is Daniel levy. Says you know him"

Can’t buy into all the wait until Summer nonsense. A well run top club has a plan and acts upon it. Look at Bayern as an example and its not like Nagelsmann was some kind of abject failure, . Levy has been at this more than 20 years and still acts as if its his first go round hiring a manager.

Imagine if it was them lot down the road acting like this we would be pissing our pants with laughter.

Is the current thinking that Nagelsmann won’t sign a pre-contract now with a start date in the summer?

If so, we should move on with our manager search. We cannot be held hostage, and need to have a manager in place early in the summer.

mdharris said:

Is the current thinking that Nagelsmann won’t sign a pre-contract now with a start date in the summer?

If so, we should move on with our manager search. We cannot be held hostage, and need to have a manager in place early in the summer.

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Last itk said that he's supposedly keen. Hopefully we'll find out one way or another this week.

piedpiper said:

That we can't control unfortunately....Nagelsmann must want to come to us. Must want to.be involved in the project. Must want to manage us because later Chelsea would need to only lift their skirt and he'd go running drooling. I want a Poch....type who wants to be here. who refers to our club as we and not " They" as Conte did in his rant.

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That's not how people work lol. It's like letting another guy take the girl you're interested in.

When you have the manager you want then it's about cultivating a relationship that makes both sides want to stay in it. Something NEITHER we nor Conte did well imo.

ultimateloner said:

That could happen. We take Potter.

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Why would we do that?

DenverSpur said:

I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.

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That was the last straw. If you really think he is a world class manager that gets his wins by boring the opposition and just about everybody else then fine that's your opinion. I've very rarely looked at the clock in the stadium and thought how much more of this shit do I have to watch, but I did it quite a few times under his managerial reign. He can go back to Italy and bore everyone to a title there, they obviously like it.

I really really hope it isn’t Poch.

That is the singular most cowardly appointment we could make. A retread, a manager who frankly was bad at PSG, a manager who we already know doesn’t see eye to eye with Levy on transfers, a manager who can’t teach a single new thing to the likes of Davies Dier Sanchez Son Kane etc.

It’s just a reread that we know will end in tears. Guess what. It did end in tears last time, and both Levy and Poch haven’t evolved one bit since then. PSG had the same problems with deep blocks and mid-match tactics we did… and Levy is still the meddling cheapskate he was under Poch.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

It’s just not a good idea. Let us keep Poch in our good graces. Let him be our hero forever. Bringing him back will eradicate all the goodwill he has left here. I guarantee it won’t work.

ItsBoris said:

If we dont act quickly, chelsea will sack potter and get nagelsmann

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I think the board not having any cohesive plan allows for more issues than that.

IF for whatever reason JN wants/needs/can't join until summer, it's not just Chelsea that could do something bonkers, Newcastle could be an option if they got CL or even if they don't they could easily sack Howe (he's not likely to be on massive money is he; not that the Saudi's are hard up)

The Madrid job is out there (possibly both Madrid clubs if I understood correctly)

PSG are as mental as Chelsea so that's yet another attractive option out there (maybe)

The Brighton boss may get poached by someone else (I happen to think the manager isn't the most crucial cog in how Brighton function) so whilst I'm not saying rush out and get their coach I am saying that's another club who could be shopping for a manager.

Then there's City how long until Pep walks? Especially if they get sanctions anytime soon. There seems to be rumblings about Pep every other year.

Meanwhile Levy acts with no plan and a cabal of advisors wittering 20 different names in his ears and he's the one who makes the ultimate decision despite his track record that says he has absolutely no business making it except pay the cheques.

Paratici should be paid lip-service at best as he's likely gone too in a couple months, then we're either back hunting for sporting directors again and waiting on them to decide the next manager and the associated time frame to set all that up and have summer transfer plans in place!

We get left with Levy with his thumb up his arse as all the managers on the list get signed up and end up re-signing Nuno.

TBH I've no clue which manager we should be looking at, going for big names doesn't work for us, going for on-trend managers doesn't work for us.

Our best appointments have been non glamour signings and under ENIC's reign the successful ones were originally employed as assistants.

As for Poch IMHO Spurs or Levy seem to have played games by keeping him and his love for the club on the hook for so long now, there's been times when jobs have come up and something gets leaked as if to keep Poch from signing because the Spurs job might be about to come back up only the call doesn't come; just an opinion.

I've said before I'd love Poch back but not yet as both the club and he have weaknesses that need addressing before that comes back around.

I'm fed up with turgid back-foot football that doesn't play towards our squads strengths and away from our weaknesses, I want a team that has a plan that can beat a low block and a high press, it doesn't make sense to sign a coach that doesn't use WB's or attacking FB's and I'm fed up with an midfield 2 that teams walk straight through. It'd be nice to have someone not wedded to a system or at least allows some freedom of expression/improvisation when it's needed and not throw his toys out the cot when they do.

So whoever that manager is we should get an effing move on.

ItsBoris said:

That's not how people work lol. It's like letting another guy take the girl you're interested in.

When you have the manager you want then it's about cultivating a relationship that makes both sides want to stay in it. Something NEITHER we nor Conte did well imo.

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Yes it's exactly how it works he must want to join us... we sell him the business plan and he elects to be involved or not .. or holds out for something different. Poch wanted to come to us we sold him our plans and then as you say we cultivated the working relationship making the bond to the club stronger.

Conte we could only convince to stay for an initial 18 months... it was doomed from the get go.....he couldn't even last that long.