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BuckeyeSpurs11 · Mar 21, 2023

Trix said:
What does it mean, without going back to quotes from the 1960's?

Trix, my attempt to define what this means in 2023 terms is this: Coach who sets the team up to play attacking football, wants technical players all around the park (not your brute athletes), record of improving and promoting youth, tactically adaptable and willing to work within a certain financial constraints in the transfer market.

synththfc · Mar 21, 2023

“A number of potential #thfc managerial replacements share similar concerns to those as Conte whilst also having reservations over the running of the football operations.”

Trix · Mar 21, 2023

Archibald&Crooks said:
I don't think anyone actually knows anything. Pretty much any journalist out there is doing exactly what we are. Guessing.

I bet even Levy doesn't know who he wants. Not that that's much of a gamble

Agreed we've got the best part of two months to ~~be rejected by everyone and panic appoint someone~~ get this one right.

YB123 · Mar 21, 2023

First time in I dont know how long where I feel the non-Spurs journos are really putting the pressure on Levy and can see what majority of us have seen for years.

dude573 · Mar 21, 2023

Guntz said:
This is a very impressive record tbf

Mourinho had won a trophy everywhere he had been and Conte had just won the league with Inter and previously beat us to it with Chelsea. What we have learnt from them both is that success elsewhere does not translate to Spurs.

Trix · Mar 21, 2023

BuckeyeSpurs11 said:
Trix, my attempt to define what this means in 2023 terms is this: Coach who sets the team up to play attacking football, wants technical players all around the park (not your brute athletes), record of improving and promoting youth, tactically adaptable and willing to work within a certain financial constraints in the transfer market.

No, that's what you want.

Annabel · Mar 21, 2023

Trix said:
Agreed we've got the best part of two months to ~~be rejected by everyone and panic appoint someone~~ get this one right.

Funny cos it's true.

Painfully true.

BuckeyeSpurs11 · Mar 21, 2023

Trix said:
No, that's what you want.

It's exactly what I want, ha.

I also think that's the perspective from non-Spurs supporters also of what the modern day Tottenham Hotspur looks like.

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 21, 2023

Trix said:
No, that's what you want.

It’s what most spurs fans want and he’s answered it perfectly as to the elements needed to be more likely to succeed as a manager at Tottenham.

snakehipsspurs · Mar 21, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
All so true however if he did get us top4 playing nice football and then it meant we kept Kane and carried on playing nice spurs like football next season and he won us a trophy then that would actually be a great outcome vs an unknown lesser project manager comes in, we finish 6/7th, Kane goes in summer, next season we play niceish football but finish 6/7th again as we struggle to adapt without Kane, whereas if Tuchel comes in for 18months and does really well and we keep Kane play nice football challenge towards top of the league, win a trophy and then bring in a project manager that could work out well…

The problem is that’s exactly what we all thought of Conte (maybe outside of the nice football bit haha) before he came in. Short term-ism only works if your willing to throw cash at it like Chelsea to sustain it.

Our only actual shots at silverware in the last decade came under the reign of a manager who prioritised youth, developed talent and grew a team over several years. We know it works, so let’s do it but this time adding in the extra financial muscle we have. If Brighton can challenge for Europe under this model, no reason we can’t win leagues and trophies doing it with our size as a club.

It’s all about vision and guts though to ride the rough times. Something Levy sadly doesn’t have on the footballing side.

BuckeyeSpurs11 · Mar 21, 2023

YB123 said:
First time in I dont know how long where I feel the non-Spurs journos are really putting the pressure on Levy and can see what majority of us have seen for years.

Who has he referenced as expressing similar concerns? Which managers?

Rosco1984 · Mar 21, 2023

synththfc said:
“A number of potential #thfc managerial replacements share similar concerns to those as Conte whilst also having reservations over the running of the football operations.”

theres a paywall but we can all guess the questions.

Guntz · Mar 21, 2023

dude573 said:
Mourinho had won a trophy everywhere he had been and Conte had just won the league with Inter and previously beat us to it with Chelsea. What we have learnt from them both is that success elsewhere does not translate to Spurs.

Oh I agree 100%. Tuchel is the wrong fit for us.

But I didn't realise his record getting to finals was that good.

You can see why Levy might be swayed.

YB123 · Mar 21, 2023

BuckeyeSpurs11 said:
Who has he referenced as expressing similar concerns? Which managers?

Paywall but I'd assume the reocgnised big name targets. Poch, Tuchel, Enrique etc

Impspur1 · Mar 21, 2023

Greybeard said:
I've no idea whether this is correct but on another Spurs forum someone who has had inside knowledge in the past says he has heard we're going all out for Tuchel.

This is gong to end well

YB123 · Mar 21, 2023

Guntz said:
Oh I agree 100%. Tuchel is the wrong fit for us.

But I didn't realise his record getting to finals was that good.

You can see why Levy might be swayed.

But Levy will bring in a manager with a great cup record and just demand CL football every year. Its tedious.

For the love of Spurs · Mar 21, 2023

YB123 said:
First time in I dont know how long where I feel the non-Spurs journos are really putting the pressure on Levy and can see what majority of us have seen for years.

for me it is starting to make more sense to get Poch back.

1 loves the club.
2 knows the problems of our owners and can work with them.
3 works with young players and we have a lot now from Bryan Gil to Spence to Udogie to Sarr so not a cheque book manager like Conte or Jose.
4 plays a brand of football that fans enjoy and brings a identity.
5 will have a lot more cash backing this time now the stadium is done.
6 will know quickly who to get rid of.

All appointments are risky but Poch might be the least if we are looking long term. If not Poch then someone with similar qualities, only managers suitable for this frustrating board.

newbie · Mar 21, 2023

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snakehipsspurs said:
My problem with Tuchel is not his ability, he’s an excellent manager and plays a much more front-foot style than Conte. The problem is it doesn’t break this cycle we’re currently in and proves Levy hasn’t grasped the problem.

If you’re hiring him to salvage this season and get us top 4, you’ve missed the point. If you’re hiring him try and appease Kane, you’ve missed the point. If you’re hiring him to hopefully quickly end the trophy drought and get the monkey off our back, you’ve missed the point.

We need to build an identity for the long term, not short term goals. If we’re not as good in the short term to be great long term, we’d all buy in I’m sure of it. But this treading water and feigning at being a big club while not spending like it is infuriating to watch.

I agree,

However if TT was say 18 months 2 years here and we had a plan to continue wgity a similar style of manager and player to create a long term identity then I could see the logic.

Although there is the Levy factor, so who know

YB123 · Mar 21, 2023

dude573 said:
Mourinho had won a trophy everywhere he had been and Conte had just won the league with Inter and previously beat us to it with Chelsea. What we have learnt from them both is that success elsewhere does not translate to Spurs.

He sacked a cup winning machine 7 days before a cup final to replace him with a 29 year old with no experience.

Would we have won it? Probably not. But it goes under the radar as one of the worst footballing decisions I think I've seen from any football chairman.

He and the above only care about CL football and thats it. Financial incentives.

Yiddo100 · Mar 21, 2023

YB123 said:
First time in I dont know how long where I feel the non-Spurs journos are really putting the pressure on Levy and can see what majority of us have seen for years.

Perfect scenario

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