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the yid

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Enrique is arguably the perfect choice - renowned name with big club experience, has a progressive model of football which can compete with Pep, Arteta, De Zerbi etc and is unemployed
Will he want his own signings
 

jbstarr14

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Tuchel wasn’t a Spurs fan growing up - he just liked the ‘adventurous’ name and would use it when playing against mates: a “You be Bayern, I’ll be Tottenham” kind of thing.

Let’s not start imagining him hitchhiking his way halfway across Western Europe to N17 in a ‘Holsten’ shirt every couple of weeks…
 

Snarfalicious

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Enrique is arguably the perfect choice - renowned name with big club experience, has a progressive model of football which can compete with Pep, Arteta, De Zerbi etc and is unemployed

I do think he could unite the squad a bit with fresh ideas. I have no idea what his requests are when it comes to transfers, but he does seem like a good choice to bright it together from the footballing side of things.
 

wrd

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I'm not keen on Luis Enrique at all, I think everybody has been tricked into thinking Possession is the holy grail and it's not, Spain were absolutely terrible to watch under him. To be honest I think I might be exaggerating here and my disdain for tika taka might be making me bias.

I think to crystallise my point, I'd contrast it with Liverpool, who yes have high possession but it's a symptom of their style, not the cornerstone of it. What really matters is the intensity at which you win the ball, your speed of play in the turnover, how quickly you overload the box and the speed of your touch and pass i.e the directness but not simply smashing the ball long but directness in your ability to play each pass quickly. Spain was side-ways utter tedium where the goal is to exhaust the other team and if the other team get's the ball, scythe them down as quick as possible but in areas that ref's don't give yellows. It's also what Pep does and it's cynical.

Possession is the biggest misnomer in football, the stat isn't even based on how long your team has the ball, they calculate it based on passes. So you can technically have more of the ball but your team utilises it more directly through forward passes and dribbling but because the stat is a fabrication, the team whose passing sideways is statistically shown to have more of the ball. Then people look at that stat and base their opinion on the game around it. Incisiveness is what matters, that's why Klopp's style succeeds and Spain had little.
 

jpascavitz

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As good as he was at Barca and Spain, am I the only one that thinks "what is the point" to Enrique? I feel like we'll be having this same conversation around Poch this time next season.
 

GutBucket

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I'm not keen on Luis Enrique at all, I think everybody has been tricked into thinking Possession is the holy grail and it's not, Spain were absolutely terrible to watch under him.

I think to crystallise my point, I'd contrast it with Liverpool, who yes have high possession but it's a symptom of their style, not the cornerstone of it. What really matters is the intensity at which you win the ball, your speed of play in the turnover, how quickly you overload the box and the speed of your touch and pass i.e the directness but not simply smashing the ball long but directness in your ability to play each pass quickly. Spain was side-ways utter tedium where the goal is to exhaust the other team and if the other team get's the ball, scythe them down as quick as possible but in areas that ref's don't give yellows. It's also what Pep does and it's cynical.

Possession is the biggest misnomer in football, the stat isn't even based on how long your team has the ball, they calculate it based on passes. So you can technically have more of the ball but your team utilises it more directly through forward passes and dribbling but because the stat is a fabrication, the team whose passing sideways is statistically shown to have more of the ball. Then people look at that stat and base their opinion on the game around it. Incisiveness is what matters, that's why Klopp's style succeeds and Spain had little.
He isn't possession manager, Pep called his style "best counter-attack football". His Barcelona team had much less possession than Pep's but scored more goals and conceded less goals. He adapts to what he has. He was criticized at Barcelona for NOT playing possession football.
 

wrd

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He isn't possession manager, Pep called his style "best counter-attack football". His Barcelona team had much less possession than Pep's but scored more goals and conceded less goals. He adapts to what he has. He was criticized at Barcelona for NOT playing possession football.

ahhh I literally just made an edit that would have gone to this point perfectly :LOL:

I put:

To be honest I think I might be exaggerating here and my disdain for tika taka might be making me bias.

I watched a few Spain games at the euros and they were just painful but I think it might have been the world cup in Russia that might have been more in my minds eye which isn't fair on Enrique.
 

Snarfalicious

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I love the idea of an adaptable manager that believes in their style but knows formations can be molded around the players at hand. I think this squad is crying out for one, in so many ways. You can tell the players are bored, and I really can't blame them. I'd imagine going into a match week and being presented with fresh ideas, tactics and potentially formations would liven things up a bit, so long as the coaching behind it is up to snuff. I'm definitely intrigued by Enrique and what he could do back with a club and working with players week-in and out.
 

nav007_2000

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Poch for me. Knows how levy works. Admitted to making mistakes himself and loves the club. Played attractive football which is what we all want after what Jose, Nuno and Conte have produced
 

delawarespur

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I’ve said it too many times, but the plan is far more important than the next manager. Sack Conte now or not. I don’t care really as long as when the next permanent guy is hired we have a plan. I honestly barely care how we finish the season, because even if we get top 4, if it comes from a new manager bounce that was a a result of a rushed hire without a plan, I’ll be furious. Because the cycle never ends. Mason or some other interim can have the job for as long as it takes for a long term plan to be agreed. Get the club in the right place first and then start fresh with new faces. I’m so tired of the directionless, reactionary nature of those in charge, and I’m even more frustrated as I have zero faith in the club to actually come up with a blueprint to make sure the long term football future is planned for.
 

GutBucket

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He'll want technical quality, and outside of Kulu, Kane, Romero, Bentancur... we do not possess much of it.
He loves Olmo so would probably try to bring him. Definitely needs Rakitic type for his transition style (key player for Barcelona other than MSN). That would be hardest position to fill correctly IMO.
 

night-watchman

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My No. 1 choice is Ange.

I have followed him since his Brisbane Roar days and he is one of the closest things to a miracle worker there is going around at the moment, at least into the almost instantaneous way he transforms his teams into playing attractive football.
 

pablo73

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Enrique would be a mistake I think, another coach who has proved he can do well with world class, technically gifted players for Barca & Spain. We don't have many of either and I don't see that changing any time soon. Smacks of picking another 'name' to appease the fans and act like a big club.

I would suggest going for a coach who has a philosophy which is the best fit for the club but seeing as we don't have any philosophy or direction as a club I'm not sure how we would go about that.
 
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