carpediem991
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Christ calm down, i was only bringing on the table that its not necessary to play our CBs of doom...
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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How much more can he be backed really? In attack & midfield the squad has been updated? In defence, Royal, Lenglet & Romero plus Perisic were brought in under his tenure or thereabouts.
The problem is Conte and his stupid rigid system. Act now Levy and get rid.... but I suspect he'll wait until the end of March or so.
spurs mental
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Wasn't aimed at you directly.
Sick to death of the toxicity of this place and people not reading and taking everything out of context.
Not healthy to continue arguing so I'm off to bed ?
Westmorlandspur
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Eric Dier banned from the second leg .
yet again stood off for that first goal instead of getting right to the man.
Granted Romero was initially responsible. Still in Buenos Aires I’m afraid.
won’t do Eric any harm to miss that game. Will Sanchez take his chance, I bloody hope so.
skippy showed how good a player he can be and Sarr is going to be a player as well.
Richy should really be given a game as both Sonny and Kulu are well off it.
yet again stood off for that first goal instead of getting right to the man.
Granted Romero was initially responsible. Still in Buenos Aires I’m afraid.
won’t do Eric any harm to miss that game. Will Sanchez take his chance, I bloody hope so.
skippy showed how good a player he can be and Sarr is going to be a player as well.
Richy should really be given a game as both Sonny and Kulu are well off it.
mattspur1
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Yep, but I'd take that over this bullshit. I chose to watch a crap Valentines film with the wife over the game tonight because I knew it was going to be the same lethargic, unattractive bollocks this man churns out. It was a wise choice.
I get the whole not backing thing I do and thats why none of us would complain if we didn twin the league. What we ae complaining about is week in week out we are playing turgid uninspiring and not exactly winning football. We are trying not to lose rather than trying to win. Our players are not the best but better than not creating and playing sideways. We have one of the best strikers playing in the middle and having Son deep trying to make penetrating dribbles. Its just all meh meh meh
robotsonic
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So frustrating as I really like the guy as a man, but I just cannot get behind the way that we're being managed at all anymore. It is everything that I worried about when it looked like we might appoint him pre-Nuno, and I was actively hoping that we didn't go for him, though the Nuno experience and the finish to last season made me come around quickly to the idea that it might actually work.
...it ain't. It's just not working. Last days of Poch vibes about the whole experience right now. We know what good football, and winning football looks like. We know what a well drilled squad looks like. We know what a happy squad looks like. This isn't it and we haven't seen it for the whole season.
Playing the same players into the ground the whole time. The same lineup and the same formation and the same ideas. Formerly not playing players at all until they have "come into our idea of football", even while dross is being served up game after game by the ones already inside that idea. 70-80 mins until you change a single thing, and even then it's just a like-for-like change in a system that's not worked for 70-80 mins. It's draining to watch. The most inspired tactical change of the entire season was getting Eric Dier to step up into midfield the other day, and that was Stellini and Ryan Mason.
He looks and is in all probability entirely miserable given everything that's happened to him this season and how it's going on the pitch. Given his reputation for walking when things aren't working or going his way it's a mystery that he's still here on his own terms to be honest. I feel for him deeply. I just can't see how he'll ever be happy here, and if we don't play a more interesting brand of football then I can't see how I'll be happy continuing to watch this version of Tottenham Hotspur either
...it ain't. It's just not working. Last days of Poch vibes about the whole experience right now. We know what good football, and winning football looks like. We know what a well drilled squad looks like. We know what a happy squad looks like. This isn't it and we haven't seen it for the whole season.
Playing the same players into the ground the whole time. The same lineup and the same formation and the same ideas. Formerly not playing players at all until they have "come into our idea of football", even while dross is being served up game after game by the ones already inside that idea. 70-80 mins until you change a single thing, and even then it's just a like-for-like change in a system that's not worked for 70-80 mins. It's draining to watch. The most inspired tactical change of the entire season was getting Eric Dier to step up into midfield the other day, and that was Stellini and Ryan Mason.
He looks and is in all probability entirely miserable given everything that's happened to him this season and how it's going on the pitch. Given his reputation for walking when things aren't working or going his way it's a mystery that he's still here on his own terms to be honest. I feel for him deeply. I just can't see how he'll ever be happy here, and if we don't play a more interesting brand of football then I can't see how I'll be happy continuing to watch this version of Tottenham Hotspur either
mpickard2087
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Of course he isn't the only issue at the football club, he might have a top top resume, he might go elsewhere and be successful, but there is no hiding place for Conte when we see what is getting served up repeatedly. The lack of any coherent gameplan is damning.
ConteBall when you can develop and exploit space works (teams have increasingly worked that out though...), but as I said in the match thread whenever we get tight matches our structures and ideas in how to attack and use possession in the oppositions half and break a team down is so non-existent it is embarrassing. Ball is shuffled about with no idea, eventually wide and swing in a hopeful cross, we hope to get some corners, and as I just said in the other thread I'm actually starting to dislike (whether we technically get fouled or not) how we so obviously stop the play and try to milk or buy a freekick rather than concentrate on moving the ball and playing some footy. This is just all the most basic of football. No idea. No quality. And we cannot sustain real pressure and/or look like breaking teams down.
If you were going to be really unkind, it's verging on Tony Pulis tactics.
I was posting earlier in the day that we've got to work harder and defend better and need to go back to basics to sort out our defensive tactics. Now it's the turn of hammering our attacking play and our lame attempts at playing any sort of progressive football. I mean fucking hell, we're in some bother and he's got to find some solutions before the wheels do fall off the season.
ConteBall when you can develop and exploit space works (teams have increasingly worked that out though...), but as I said in the match thread whenever we get tight matches our structures and ideas in how to attack and use possession in the oppositions half and break a team down is so non-existent it is embarrassing. Ball is shuffled about with no idea, eventually wide and swing in a hopeful cross, we hope to get some corners, and as I just said in the other thread I'm actually starting to dislike (whether we technically get fouled or not) how we so obviously stop the play and try to milk or buy a freekick rather than concentrate on moving the ball and playing some footy. This is just all the most basic of football. No idea. No quality. And we cannot sustain real pressure and/or look like breaking teams down.
If you were going to be really unkind, it's verging on Tony Pulis tactics.
I was posting earlier in the day that we've got to work harder and defend better and need to go back to basics to sort out our defensive tactics. Now it's the turn of hammering our attacking play and our lame attempts at playing any sort of progressive football. I mean fucking hell, we're in some bother and he's got to find some solutions before the wheels do fall off the season.
Atleast his interviews match his football. Boring and predictable.
delawarespur
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Probably the best way to describe it. The patterns and system are fine when they work, but the stubbornness in personnel is something that is an issue. Son frequently coming short does no one any good, and it’s what makes last season so interesting because Son wasn’t dropping deep at all. He was mostly doing what he’s good at and making runs in behind. Maybe Conte doesn’t change it because he’s had success everywhere else with his automations, but whatever the reason, the solution isn’t to have Son play this way. Either play Danjuma there or have Son do what he was doing last season.
VancouverSpur
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This all reminds me so much of the end of Pochs time and Jose. They were so stubborn and rigid in approach almost as if deliberately fucking it up.
How long this goes on I dont know but Conte looks a shadow of himself from when Chelsea manager or Inter or even Juve.
How long this goes on I dont know but Conte looks a shadow of himself from when Chelsea manager or Inter or even Juve.
Ive been saying this for a while that as a manager you need to be inspiring, motivational, leading - how is any player going to watch his interviews an dpressers thinking - yeah thats my manager... lets do this.
parj
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But it's not so on the players either. You said it yourself, same players did well in the system last season
I honestly think we are one of the easiest teams to play against in the league. Teams know we will sit back passively, won’t have a clear press and won’t take risks unless we are losing and then our defence is pretty easy to pick off. Managers should be having to prepare for aggressive, pressing, attacking football - not what we do
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