Player watch: Christian Eriksen

neogenisis · Jul 7, 2019

Moving forward there is no room for sentimentality, will he be a miss? yes of course he will, do I wish he would stay? yes I do but he clearly doesn't want too, there isnt really a discussion to be had.
If he no longer wants to wear our shirt then get him out asap. Our number 23 is no longer part of the future of our great club.

THFCSPURS19 · Jul 7, 2019

neogenisis said:
If he no longer wants to wear our shirt then get him out asap. Our number 23 is no longer part of the future of our great club.

Son wanted to leave us in 2016. I don't recall anyone having this 'get rid and never play for us again' attitude.

wrd · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
Son wanted to leave us in 2016. I don't recall anyone having this 'get rid and never play for us again' attitude.

Because we found out after the fact tbf

THFCSPURS19 · Jul 7, 2019

wrd said:
Because we found out after the fact tbf

There were reports at the time, and even then, I can't recall a single person who slagged him off.

wrd · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
There were reports at the time, and even then, I can't recall a single person who slagged him off.

Find the thread where we lost 5-1 vs newcastle :LOL:

JayB · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
There were reports at the time, and even then, I can't recall a single person who slagged him off.

Wanting out after one season in which you did not settle or play well is very different than threatening to leave on a free, making it publicly known that you only want one club (thereby undercutting the club's bargaining position), and then "getting pissy" when the club does not accept a derisory fee.

Eriksen is pursuing his own interests, but he's fucking the club over along the way. He's earned the resentment.

THFCSPURS19 · Jul 7, 2019

wrd said:
Find the thread where we lost 5-1 vs newcastle

I'd rather not and I'm referring to when it became common knowledge that Son wanted to leave.

Neon_Knight_ · Jul 7, 2019

yido_number1 said:
Totally different players. Eriksen is a goals and assists where as modric was making the team tick.

If you read my post and the one I was replying to, you'll probably realise it's very clear that I don;t disagree with you on that...

I was responding to a comment that Eriksen wouldn't fit in at Real Madrid like Modric did, but because he lacks heart. My point is he doesn't have the same ability either.

neogenisis · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
Son wanted to leave us in 2016. I don't recall anyone having this 'get rid and never play for us again' attitude.

I didnt know that until after the fact when he gave an interview. My point stands with any player who *wants* to leave.

hughy · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
Son wanted to leave us in 2016. I don't recall anyone having this 'get rid and never play for us again' attitude.

You know very well these are two very different scenarios. Stop trying to stir a pot which is already full of tetchyness.

RikkiRocket · Jul 7, 2019

If he goes. Does he take his hair weave? Or is that a separate part of the deal? Will Prince Harry hire it for parties and shit?

THFCSPURS19 · Jul 7, 2019

JayB said:
Wanting out after one season in which you did not settle or play well is very different than threatening to leave on a free, making it publicly known that you only want one club (thereby undercutting the club's bargaining position), and then "getting pissy" when the club does not accept a derisory fee.

Eriksen is pursuing his own interests, but he's fucking the club over along the way. He's earned the resentment.

When did he threaten to leave on a free? You've just made that up, and Eriksen has never said he won't sign a new contract. In fact he's hinted to the contrary.

Neither did he say he only wanted one club, he was asked about Madrid and he said that would be the sort of club he's interested in.

Which leaves Trix's comment earlier. As disappointing as it was to read, and I really hope it's not true, it was still understandably fairly vague and when you add in the pinch of salt factor, I personally don't see any grounds for resenting him as it stands. I've adored Eriksen for 6 years and a single piece of ITK won't turn that feeling on its head for me - if more, similar information comes from ITKs and reliable media reports, then that could change.

Until he actually moves on for free, or is clearly acting like a **** next season, he's not fucking the club over. Imo.

Yiddo100 · Jul 7, 2019

If he wants to leave, get £60-70m and let him go

THFCSPURS19 · Jul 7, 2019

hughy said:
You know very well these are two very different scenarios. Stop trying to stir a pot which is already full of tetchyness.

No. This specific poster seems to take the view that any player that wants to leave shouldn't play for the club anymore. It's quite a widely-held view and one I disagree with strongly - if actually applied, it's not a clever move. Imagine if the club actually took that stance? We'd have no Toby, Rose, Son and potentially other players like Dier and Sissoko - and potentially players we had no idea about.

hughy · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
No. This specific poster seems to take the view that any player that wants to leave shouldn't play for the club anymore. It's quite a widely-held view and one I disagree with strongly - if actually applied, it's not a clever move. Imagine if the club actually took that stance? We'd have no Toby, Rose, Son and potentially other players like Dier and Sissoko - and potentially players we had no idea about.

Why use the term "anyone" then, and not "you"?

JayB · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
When did he threaten to leave on a free? You've just made that up, and Eriksen has never said he won't sign a new contract. In fact he's hinted to the contrary.

Neither did he say he only wanted one club, he was asked about Madrid and he said that would be the sort of club he's interested in.

Which leaves Trix's comment earlier. As disappointing as it was to read, and I really hope it's not true, it was still understandably fairly vague and when you add in the pinch of salt factor, I personally don't see any grounds for resenting him as it stands. I've adored Eriksen for 6 years and a single piece of ITK won't turn that feeling on its head for me - if more, similar information comes from ITKs and reliable media reports, then that could change.

Until he actually moves on for free, or is clearly acting like a **** next season, he's not fucking the club over. Imo.

It's true that nothing being final it's probably premature to jump to conclusions, but I think it's fair to say from what we've heard that Eriksen is maneuvering in such a way that undermines the club's ability to get market value for him.

Trix said that Eriksen is "desperate for Madrid." Herc has stated that he may well be willing to run his contract down. Taking that ITK to be true, and assuming his agent has conveyed as much to Madrid, it would mean that Madrid have Levy by the balls. That's obviously what Eriksen wants, but it does no good for THFC.

You're right that it could turn out to be that the transfer is resolved amicably, but assuming the situation is what we've been lead to believe it is I don't think it's unfair or harsh to bear some resentment toward Eriksen.

neogenisis · Jul 7, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
No. This specific poster seems to take the view that any player that wants to leave shouldn't play for the club anymore. It's quite a widely-held view and one I disagree with strongly - if actually applied, it's not a clever move. Imagine if the club actually took that stance? We'd have no Toby, Rose, Son and potentially other players like Dier and Sissoko - and potentially players we had no idea about.

Its fine to agree to disagree. I firmly believe players who do not want to play for a club should move on. Also there is a difference between Eriksen saying I want to move because I want to something new and Son saying I am uncomfortable here and want to return to Germany. Son stayed and is now a massive player for us, Eriksen has been here for 6 years and wants to leave. you are using the generic argument which in reality has many different facets to fit yours.
I hold no grudge he wants to leave, none at all in fact as someone else said earlier I am excited to see how we line up without him in the side. I have always thought at times our players have looked to him to dig us out of a hole.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 7, 2019

TwanYid said:
Ignoring the fact that there is simply no financial way Real Madrid would/will buy both players, I respectfully disagree (in one way) with your post (even in theory). First, however, let me point out that you are indeed correct in that they (Eriksen and Pogba) could- if paired- play together. I honestly think Eriksen could “play together” with just about anyone. So yeah, true- that would work.

However, again- notwithstanding the fact that at least for now they won’t both be purchased simultaneously- I don’t see Eriksen fitting in there a la Luka Modric, and the reason isn’t down to ability- it’s down to heart.

Modric is a fighter. Yes he’s slight and no he isn’t Roy Keane- but he does get stuck in both with and without the ball. He is tidy- but at the same time he has this warrior spirit that basically all Real Madrid players have to have in order to make it there. Eriksen has the talent to play there- and even play alongside Pogba if that somehow came to pass- but he lacks the heart. He doesn’t have that constant killer instinct; rather, it waxes and wanes, and I don’t see that changing just because he signs for them. Modric (to use but one example) is an assassin- a killer- a brawler- a guy who is fighting every second he is on the field. That’s why we loved him so much- because he was our little general. Christian Eriksen, otoh, is a supremely talented coaster- a guy who has all the ability in the world but lacks the heart to be at the tippy tippy top of the food chain.

Just my onions.

I have nothing personally against Eriksen. He has also been one of our best players since he came but I do find something lacking in his character. If NDombele controlled the middle and brought some if those great through balls and fluidity and Eriksen was with us I probably wouldn't say a negative word about Eriksen. I agree that his stats are great, it's his M. O. I'm not so fond of.
When you need it great players step to the plate. I don't see that with Eriksen. I wish I did. I wouldn't get so much flak as I wouldn't care so much. I just find him frustrating. When he foes something great and he does, I wonder why he remains anonymous a lot.
Kane works his Arse off every game. He doesnt play well every game I don't care about that so much. He gives everything.
Son is limited in some ways. Brilliant at some things and others not so much but I never say a bad word as he gives everything.
Sissoko has been horrible at times, but I have respected his fight and his continue to learn or fight his own demons.
Eriksen to me lack some confidence to bite things off and yet is one of and probably the most talented player on the team. That's the frustrating part.
This is not any trolling, any trying to aggravate people here.
Maybe David Silva doesn't have the stats of Eriksen but I love the way he plays, Courtinho at Liverpool when he was feeding Suarez was great.
Why I can't see it with Eriksen I don't know. I mean his pass to Dele for that volley was brilliant. I just fill there, are so many dinky passes sideways and back with little penetration with him when he could save time changing an angle and moving the ball quicker and more forward

Hotspur33 · Jul 7, 2019

I guess Poch and Levy both have to come together and decide, if it is worth having Eriksen around this coming season to help take the burden off of the new additions (assuming there are more to come) and then risk losing him for nothing next season. Or if its better to cut him lose now, even at a reduced price (say £30M??)
My concern would be that, if the ambition now is to properly compete for the title, its gonna be hard with so many new additions who are new to the PL.

Ronwol196061 · Jul 8, 2019

Hotspur33 said:
I guess Poch and Levy both have to come together and decide, if it is worth having Eriksen around this coming season to help take the burden off of the new additions (assuming there are more to come) and then risk losing him for nothing next season. Or if its better to cut him lose now, even at a reduced price (say £30M??)
My concern would be that, if the ambition now is to properly compete for the title, its gonna be hard with so many new additions who are new to the PL.

Even though we are spending I don't think the expectations are to win the league this season, it might be a faint hope but not an expectation.
Realistically next season maybe more smooth but a step in the right direction is good.
I think we didn't especially play well this season. Too many heroic points. Hopefully we will get more fluid as the season goes on as we build something bigger

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