What our opponents' fans are saying about us 18/19

'O Zio · May 30, 2019

spursphil said:
At No point did the numbers on the terrace exceed the amount of tickets issued.

I thought one of the main problems was that the gate directly in front of the queue was opened and so everyone piled into the central part of the stand, instead of some of them going round to the sides, causing it to be overcrowded through the middle. So while overall the stand may not have been overcrowded, the particular section of it in the middle was overcrowded, which caused the crush.

I might be wrong but that's what I can remember from last time I read about it anyway.

Hakkz · May 30, 2019

'O Zio said:
BT Sport is airing it for free on their YouTube channel but I assume it's UK-only.

Must be, never heard about this.

McFlash · May 30, 2019

Capocrimini said:
Oh you have to check this out ????

Yep, deffo not a rapper! ?
At least the original Heavy D had flow, this bloke is just embarrassing.

TottenhamMattSpur · May 30, 2019

guiltyparty said:
Dude, this has been entirely proven to be false. Watch one of the many very good Hillsborough documentaries.

The bloke running the police operation on the day had never overseen a sell-out match before, wasn't familiar with the stadium operations and made a complete balls-up of it.

It's been discussed. I will catch up to speed at some point.

RickyVilla · May 30, 2019

McFlash said:
Yep, deffo not a rapper! ?
At least the original Heavy D had flow, this bloke is just embarrassing.

Heavy D was quality, god rest his soul.

'O Zio · May 30, 2019

Hakkz said:
Must be, never heard about this.

I'm guessing you're in Sweden from your avatar but you can probably still watch it there if you just do one of the 7 day free trials of one of the popular VPNs and connect to a UK server. Worth looking into anyway, will be better than some dodgy stream.

TottenhamMattSpur · May 30, 2019

With regards to the final being free. You can watch it easily by;

Youtube directly
Youtube Smart TV app
BT Sport App (which can be cast to a smart TV)
BT Sport website
SkyQ will have it listed and take you into the built on youtube app
Virgin (free anyway I think)

You really can't fail to find one of the above ways to watch it.

CoopsieDeadpool · May 30, 2019

RickyVilla said:
Heavy D was quality, god rest his soul.

Died of a Pulmonary Embolism, I've somehow survived 2 of the bloody things, the first one was just a couple of weeks after he went. I was born to suffer.

eddiev14 · May 30, 2019

coopsieyid said:
Died of a Pulmonary Embolism, I've somehow survived 2 of the bloody things, the first one was just a couple of weeks after he went. I was born to suffer.

Sorry to hear that mate. Sounds awful!

CoopsieDeadpool · May 30, 2019

eddiev14 said:
Sorry to hear that mate. Sounds awful!

They're not pleasant.

RickyVilla · May 30, 2019

coopsieyid said:
Died of a Pulmonary Embolism, I've somehow survived 2 of the bloody things, the first one was just a couple of weeks after he went. I was born to suffer.

Glad you're still here, funny man

ardiles · May 30, 2019

coopsieyid said:
They're not pleasant.

Hope you have a Long and healthy life ahead, Mate. Take care.

Hakkz · May 30, 2019

'O Zio said:
I'm guessing you're in Sweden from your avatar but you can probably still watch it there if you just do one of the 7 day free trials of one of the popular VPNs and connect to a UK server. Worth looking into anyway, will be better than some dodgy stream.

You are correct! It's actually on a normal channel on tv, no premium VIP shit going on here.

rez9000 · May 30, 2019

Capocrimini said:
Oh you have to check this out ????

I only managed 45 seconds before the urge to vomit became too strong.

guiltyparty · May 30, 2019

'O Zio said:
I thought one of the main problems was that the gate directly in front of the queue was opened and so everyone piled into the central part of the stand, instead of some of them going round to the sides, causing it to be overcrowded through the middle. So while overall the stand may not have been overcrowded, the particular section of it in the middle was overcrowded, which caused the crush.

I might be wrong but that's what I can remember from last time I read about it anyway.

Yep that's exactly what happened. There weren't more people, generally, than tickets issued for the terrace, but the police chief gave the order to open a gate that typically was opened after games to let people OUT of the ground to relieve pressure by the turnstiles.

This meant that everyone outside, fearful of missing the match as a request to delay the start by 20mins had been declined, piled through that officially opened gate and through to what were already over-crowded pens. Stewards or police would typically have been there to filter supporters away from over-crowded pens and into side ones, but for some reason this didn't happen.

So fans were entering, through an officially opened gate, not knowing or being told that there was a crush at the front. The findings were literally that Liverpool supporters did absolutely nothing wrong, and it was a huge police fuck-up, who then subsequently tried to cover it up, with the help of the press. And succeeded for years.

Does this mean that Liverpool fans don't tend to be self-righteous and irritating? No. But it really can no longer be a stick to beat them with at all. You see how some Spurs fans get irate about the modernisation of the Y word, and you think if what happened to Liverpool happened to Spurs, what our attitude would be now.

Gb160 · May 30, 2019

rez9000 said:
I only managed 45 seconds before the urge to vomit became too strong.

If my lovemaking technique had a reviews section...

Luka Van der Bale · May 30, 2019

SlotBadger said:
"Bobby" Firmino

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Ossie Ardiles and Ricky Villa.

TottenhamMattSpur · May 30, 2019

guiltyparty said:
Yep that's exactly what happened. There weren't more people, generally, than tickets issued for the terrace, but the police chief gave the order to open a gate that typically was opened after games to let people OUT of the ground to relieve pressure by the turnstiles.

This meant that everyone outside, fearful of missing the match as a request to delay the start by 20mins had been declined, piled through that officially opened gate and through to what were already over-crowded pens. Stewards or police would typically have been there to filter supporters away from over-crowded pens and into side ones, but for some reason this didn't happen.

So fans were entering, through an officially opened gate, not knowing or being told that there was a crush at the front. The findings were literally that Liverpool supporters did absolutely nothing wrong, and it was a huge police fuck-up, who then subsequently tried to cover it up, with the help of the press. And succeeded for years.

Does this mean that Liverpool fans don't tend to be self-righteous and irritating? No. But it really can no longer be a stick to beat them with at all. You see how some Spurs fans get irate about the modernisation of the Y word, and you think if what happened to Liverpool happened to Spurs, what our attitude would be now.

I do remember the lies the Sun told in the aftermath (by remember, I mean I've seen them in the decades since)
Stories of fallen fans being robbed and people being urinated on.

I'm surprised that all involved in those lies weren't jailed to be honest.

guiltyparty · May 30, 2019

TottenhamMattSpur said:
I do remember the lies the Sun told in the aftermath (by remember, I mean I've seen them in the decades since)
Stories of fallen fans being robbed and people being urinated on.

I'm surprised that all involved in those lies weren't jailed to be honest.

Yeah, along with Harry Enfield's The Scousers, it pretty much defined Liverpudlians for years - as thieves and toe rags. And it was all bullshit. Like most Murdoch employees, Kelvin MacKenzie, the editor at the time, managed to exit stage right when the comeuppance came. And it took the furore over him racially abusing Ross Barkley for him to finally get the sack from Murdoch.

Liverpool fans do always play the victim, way more than a club with the amount of success they've had should reasonably, but I do have some sympathy for them because for a very long time they were victims, of a pretty awful thing, too. Blamed, as a fan group, for one of the worst things to ever happen in football – and they didn't do anything wrong.

Lilbaz · May 30, 2019

guiltyparty said:
Yeah, along with Harry Enfield's The Scousers, it pretty much defined Liverpudlians for years - as thieves and toe rags. And it was all bullshit. Like most Murdoch employees, Kelvin MacKenzie, the editor at the time, managed to exit stage right when the comeuppance came. And it took the furore over him racially abusing Ross Barkley for him to finally get the sack from Murdoch.

Liverpool fans do always play the victim, way more than a club with the amount of success they've had should reasonably, but I do have some sympathy for them because for a very long time they were victims, of a pretty awful thing, too. Blamed, as a fan group, for one of the worst things to ever happen in football – and they didn't do anything wrong.

Racially abusing ross barkley? What was that about?

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