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teok

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I'm annoyed I can't remember the exact stat. Jonathan Wilson on the football weekly podcast was talking about how the premiership has completely changed since it started.

Back then the possession stats were relatively equal. Now you have the top teams often getting huge amounts of the ball and just completely dominating.

This means that you get really good players in lower prem teams who just never even get a chance to do any thing. The point being for instance with Ryan Sessegnon, that fulham, team was so bad he was just getting swamped. If you put him in a top 6 team he would look completely different.
 

am_yisrael_chai

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The reason i chose last season only is because the poster said we should be bold like Liverpool were LAST SEASON. It was there in my reply for all to see.

The reason I think it’s important Is because Liverpool spent €180m on players for this season. That’s a lot of money. They clearly improved their Gk. Thats a great buy for them (although I don’t accept he’s clearly superior to Lloris, who plays in front of a statistically more porous defence).

But beyond that they’ve spent far too much on their midfielders. Keita has been worse than Sissoko or winks who combined cost half what he did. Fabinho I would take but has he had a better season than Sissoko? No. He’s only started half of Liverpool’s games.

Might Keita and Fabinho come good and establish themselves as leading PL midfielders? Maybe? Probably? Either way we could spend over €100m on central midfielders in the summer and see only incremental improvement next year.

Not quite what we imagine when we talk about being bold...
With all due respect you seem to be missing the wood from the trees. Trying to micro analyse the contribution of individual signings at Liverpool and then concluding that they haven’t panned out and hence their outlay wasn’t justified is to miss the point that they have massively improved in the league relative to last year and are genuinely challenging for the title whereas we have definitely regressed for the last 2 years. At the same time they reached the CL final and look reasonably certain to get to at least the the SF this season. Dare I suggest that the improvement is at least in part correlated to their transfer activity if for no other reason than they have made it clear to all their players that none of their places are safe whereas we have done the exact opposite offering no real pressure to our starting 11 from our transfer activity.
 

rajmak

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With all due respect you seem to be missing the wood from the trees. Trying to micro analyse the contribution of individual signings at Liverpool and then concluding that they haven’t panned out and hence their outlay wasn’t justified is to miss the point that they have massively improved in the league relative to last year and are genuinely challenging for the title whereas we have definitely regressed for the last 2 years. At the same time they reached the CL final and look reasonably certain to get to at least the the SF this season. Dare I suggest that the improvement is at least in part correlated to their transfer activity if for no other reason than they have made it clear to all their players that none of their places are safe whereas we have done the exact opposite offering no real pressure to our starting 11 from our transfer activity.

Wasnt there reports poch apparently used liverpool’s transfer approach as an example to levy to show how they have improved this season?
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Wasnt there reports poch apparently used liverpool’s transfer approach as an example to levy to show how they have improved this season?

It was during an interview, he used Liverpool's business as reference for how he would like us to operate in the transfer season moving forward.
 

Dharmabum

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I'm annoyed I can't remember the exact stat. Jonathan Wilson on the football weekly podcast was talking about how the premiership has completely changed since it started.

Back then the possession stats were relatively equal. Now you have the top teams often getting huge amounts of the ball and just completely dominating.

This means that you get really good players in lower prem teams who just never even get a chance to do any thing. The point being for instance with Ryan Sessegnon, that fulham, team was so bad he was just getting swamped. If you put him in a top 6 team he would look completely different.

It can work both ways though, not all players who look talented in a "lesser" team can make the transition to a top team - while others improve in better teams (prime examples are Kante and Mahrez who were relative unknown before joining Leicester although neither of them were teenagers). Which is one of the major task for scouts to "see" (Roberston and van Dijk certainly handled that transition excellently as did Dele).
Besides, teams like Fulham don't play top-6 teams in every game so they aren't swamped in every game either. And top teams get swamped too, in a different way, by teams parking the proverbial "bus" and swamped in 1 half leaving little space for creative players
 
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thefierycamel

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So many good young players going around and here I am thinking that there's no way we even get one of them. I don't see us paying the asking rates. It's a depressing thought
 

daryl hannah

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Now that Kane's out for a long time once more, I'm more behind the idea of Mitrovic coming to understudy. Prem experience and can lead the line, scores goals.
 

freeeki

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Now that Kane's out for a long time once more, I'm more behind the idea of Mitrovic coming to understudy. Prem experience and can lead the line, scores goals.

I’d rather we moved for Joao Felix who has apparently been on our radar for a while, although after last night I think he’s now on everyone else’s radar too unfortunately
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Honest question here, who would you prefer? Given our potential financial constraints:

Sturridge on a free or Mitrovic for a fee?

If they are going to be used as back up for Kane, I'd rather have Sturridge to be honest.

Available on a free and homegrown. He has what we need for cameos and possible starts when Kane is out injured. Could use the money elsewhere too.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Honest question here, who would you prefer? Given our potential financial constraints:

Sturridge on a free or Mitrovic for a fee?

If they are going to be used as back up for Kane, I'd rather have Sturridge to be honest.

Available on a free and homegrown. He has what we need for cameos and possible starts when Kane is out injured. Could use the money elsewhere too.
There's something fishy about Sturridge and his fitness IMO. It'd be a punt that's for sure.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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There's something fishy about Sturridge and his fitness IMO. It'd be a punt that's for sure.

I wouldn't expect him to last the full 90 mins either, but you never know what Poch and his team can do with his fitness levels.

Pretty sure Poch can turn a rock into an athlete if he wanted too.
 

Qualsonic

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Honest question here, who would you prefer? Given our potential financial constraints:

Sturridge on a free or Mitrovic for a fee?

If they are going to be used as back up for Kane, I'd rather have Sturridge to be honest.

Available on a free and homegrown. He has what we need for cameos and possible starts when Kane is out injured. Could use the money elsewhere too.
I don't dislike Sturridge, but he hasn't been convincing in his cameo appearances for Liverpool.

Mitrovic for me, as long as the fee isn't too high.
 

Shadydan

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Honest question here, who would you prefer? Given our potential financial constraints:

Sturridge on a free or Mitrovic for a fee?

If they are going to be used as back up for Kane, I'd rather have Sturridge to be honest.

Available on a free and homegrown. He has what we need for cameos and possible starts when Kane is out injured. Could use the money elsewhere too.

I'd rather keep Llorente tbh
 
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