ITK Discussion The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 3rd January
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Far bigger ceiling than the likes of Moura. Would have loved him.
hellava_tough
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He's very young, so it keeps the squad fresh and we can afford to let other players go over the next few years to continue with a positive turn over of playing staff
Anyway, not happening, so we move on...
we are not owned by oil rich people bringing through players like winks and skip is or best bet
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This is why I was a little against the signing of Moura at the beginning, I felt he was a good player but knew he would block off the chance to get a top player in that position or a player with a higher ceiling.
Watching the Poch interview it feels clear to me that, we need the stadium open this season in order to show potential stadium sponsorships the potential the stadium has as a naming rights investment. We need top4 and we we need a trophy under our belts with our current squad. Top4, Stadium and trophy and we can start to convince the De Jongs, De Ligts of the world we are the horse to gamble on and attract some sponsorship to pay for them.
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But wasn't Moura considered to be a De Jong, De Ligt, Pulisic, once upon a time?
It's just the nature of football that you can't sign everyone.
We missed out on Willian and got Eriksen, for instance, and I think we won in the long run with that one.
Anyway, back to the ITK. Sounds like a quiet old January ahead for incomings...
wrd
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Well when we were signing Moura there was talk of Malcom and Moura hadn't kicked on his potential at PSG but he was considered up there with Neymar when he first joined PSG.
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We aren't potless either were not talking about buying a whole team just a class player or two to bolster our position.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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I don’t think the ITK we’ve had is particularly disheartening in the slightest.
What many people worried about was that we were completely skint and had to sell to buy. If we were willing to do deals for Pulisic and De Jong, who both in their own right are £50m+ players, it shows that we have the money to spend if the player is right.
What many people worried about was that we were completely skint and had to sell to buy. If we were willing to do deals for Pulisic and De Jong, who both in their own right are £50m+ players, it shows that we have the money to spend if the player is right.
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I have to keep reminding myself of this fact- we have been told the money is there by various sources but we have to be careful or opportunistic or even strategic with it. At least we are moving away from buying turds that we can’t flush later
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I am longing for a Mr.Burns "Release the Hounds" type moment from Joe Lewis where at 81 he is sitting on his yacht and finally pushes a button and a massive transfer kitty emerges. Sadly its more likely to be a Groupon for Buy one get one Free on a Fray Bentos Pie.
Anyway....seems that we are where we always have been in that all the pieces have to align perfectly for us to get a target we want. With Pulisic it sounds like the fee was there but agents fees and Salary perhaps not. We will always be faced with this until either Levy has some kind of "born again" moment or the playing field itself changes or the club is sold to Jeff Bezos.Am stating the obvious but right now money talks bigger than ever in football and there in lies our problem. I am all for a well run business but looking at a balance sheet *isn't quite the same as waking up to find out we have signed Ndombele. One can but dream!
*And yes I do know the balance sheet aint exactly great right now with 650million odd pounds of debt but you get my drift.
Anyway....seems that we are where we always have been in that all the pieces have to align perfectly for us to get a target we want. With Pulisic it sounds like the fee was there but agents fees and Salary perhaps not. We will always be faced with this until either Levy has some kind of "born again" moment or the playing field itself changes or the club is sold to Jeff Bezos.Am stating the obvious but right now money talks bigger than ever in football and there in lies our problem. I am all for a well run business but looking at a balance sheet *isn't quite the same as waking up to find out we have signed Ndombele. One can but dream!
*And yes I do know the balance sheet aint exactly great right now with 650million odd pounds of debt but you get my drift.
That 650m of debt is for a stadium that wont pay much dividends if we continuously stay stagnant at best. Gotta spend money to make money. And unfortunately, while it sounds like we can compete on transfer fees we are blown out by salary and agent fees
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My only concern would be our range of targets being so narrow. Is this because Poch is extremely prescriptive when it comes to players or could the scouting network be better?
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The salary point is an interesting one - we have started to pay top salaries broadly in line with other big PL clubs, but we also know that Kane, Son, Lloris etc. are worth £100k+ p/w to us. If Pulisic (or his agent, anyway) rocks up asking for parity with Dele (rumoured £150k p/w), is that something we should do? I don't think it is.
Hercules has said this window that it's not the scouting.
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Out of interest is there a FFP formula to work out how much we actually can spend with our turnover. Easy to call Lewis out to spend spend spend but there must be a fairly low sealing compared to other top country financed clubs?
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The "challenge our principles" part from Herc - is there any other way to take this besides we won't pay the fees and salaries involved with bringing in these prospects? Like the transfer fees are probably doable from our end even if high, but then the extra agent fees along with exorbitant salary requests that would put the prospects above most on the team (therefore rocking the entire boat) are just too much all together?
For me that still goes back to money. We know what we want but realistically we can't afford it especially with stadium costs and no namng rights.
For me that still goes back to money. We know what we want but realistically we can't afford it especially with stadium costs and no namng rights.
I think Levy is willing to pay the wages when players prove themselves.
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