Tottenham vs Dortmund: CL Edition Match Thread
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homer hotspur
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I suppose you're right but I just felt it would have been nice for more to be there to cheer them off after such a great win. The actual attendance was a surprise to me though especially as Dortmund had so many there.
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This is interesting:
It would be interesting, if I had any idea what it was trying to tell me.
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By the time people were waiting for the train at Wembley Park, they could have walked to Preston Road and caught the train from there.
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I went and had a pint in an extremely dubious place near Wembley Park station. Much better than spending the same time waiting for a tube.
By then, our defensive unit will have had more game time, so perhaps we will be tighter than yesterday. They have to attack us and will leave gaps for us to exploit.
kr1978
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Ticket prices I think-last year you could get a ticket for the Wembley games for about £10 IIRC?
I know a good few non Tottenham fans who went just to experience a game at Wembley last year
teok
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http://www.football365.com/news/champions-league-winners-and-losers-16
Winners
Tottenham
I could have included a section about English clubs in general had Liverpool held onto their lead against Sevilla, but it is probably fitting that Tottenham top the winners list alone. While Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City all triumphed without even conceding a goal, they were first or second seed teams facing third or fourth seeds. As the early loser piece on competition tried to explain, these were expected victories. That doesn’t dampen the enjoyment of them, but none of can exactly be lauded.
Yet for Tottenham, victory was markedly different. Their Premier League progress over the last two years may be striking, but it means little in Europe. Knocked out at the first stage of both competitions last season, Spurs were placed in pot three for the group stage draw and promptly received the worst possible outcome. Defending champions and perennial dark horses in the same group? Cheers, guys.
That draw made Tottenham’s home fixture against Dortmund the most important in their group stage, and therefore one of the most important in their season. If Tottenham again fall at the first hurdle then serious questions will be asked about their ability to compete on multiple fronts.
If we reasonably assume that APOEL will take no points in this group and Real Madrid will qualify, Tottenham and Dortmund faced a straight fight for second place. In both the football and boxing sense, Spurs are ahead on points.
Mauricio Pochettino’s side required enough fortune to finally banish the ludicrous notion of a Wembley curse, of course. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang’s equalising goal should have stood, and less than 30 seconds later Tottenham had their crowning third goal. Dortmund were fluent and adventurous in midfield and caused their hosts headaches before, in between and after their goals, but this was a night on which only the result mattered.
Avoid defeat in Germany in November and one of Tottenham’s principal aims for the season will have been realised, barring any bizarre results in other matches in this group. That would represent not only a significant step forward for a club required to re-prove the doubters wrong every season, but also a sizeable achievement given the draw they were handed. Now to win at this stadium in the Premier League…
Harry Kane
Two goals on Saturday with his right foot, two on Wednesday with his left. Perhaps Kane takes August off every year to give everyone else a chance?
Since the beginning of 2014/15, Kane has now scored 98 times in 144 games for Tottenham. That is an astonishing record for someone so young, someone so English and someone not at a truly elite club. It’s also incredible given Kane’s multipurpose role in Mauricio Pochettino’s attacking system.
They are different types of players, but that goal record is also almost identical to Wayne Rooney’s at his Manchester United peak in the three seasons from 2009/10 onward when Rooney scored 80 goals in 121 club games, 0.68 goals per game (Kane) vs 0.66 (Rooney). The comparison is far from ideal, but still striking. Rooney started that golden period at the age of 24; Kane has only just turned that age.
“Kane was fantastic,” Pochettino said after Kane’s latest two goals. “You can see today, scoring goals in the Champions League. He receives the credit he deserves. For me he’s one of the best strikers in the world. In the Champions League, the most important competition in the world, scoring will give him the credit he deserves.”
You won’t find me disagreeing. It is probably Kane’s Englishness that stops us ever truly believing that he is a superstar of the world game, but the reasons for doub are diminishing by the week. The boy’s a bloody gem.
Winners
Tottenham
I could have included a section about English clubs in general had Liverpool held onto their lead against Sevilla, but it is probably fitting that Tottenham top the winners list alone. While Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City all triumphed without even conceding a goal, they were first or second seed teams facing third or fourth seeds. As the early loser piece on competition tried to explain, these were expected victories. That doesn’t dampen the enjoyment of them, but none of can exactly be lauded.
Yet for Tottenham, victory was markedly different. Their Premier League progress over the last two years may be striking, but it means little in Europe. Knocked out at the first stage of both competitions last season, Spurs were placed in pot three for the group stage draw and promptly received the worst possible outcome. Defending champions and perennial dark horses in the same group? Cheers, guys.
That draw made Tottenham’s home fixture against Dortmund the most important in their group stage, and therefore one of the most important in their season. If Tottenham again fall at the first hurdle then serious questions will be asked about their ability to compete on multiple fronts.
If we reasonably assume that APOEL will take no points in this group and Real Madrid will qualify, Tottenham and Dortmund faced a straight fight for second place. In both the football and boxing sense, Spurs are ahead on points.
Mauricio Pochettino’s side required enough fortune to finally banish the ludicrous notion of a Wembley curse, of course. Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang’s equalising goal should have stood, and less than 30 seconds later Tottenham had their crowning third goal. Dortmund were fluent and adventurous in midfield and caused their hosts headaches before, in between and after their goals, but this was a night on which only the result mattered.
Avoid defeat in Germany in November and one of Tottenham’s principal aims for the season will have been realised, barring any bizarre results in other matches in this group. That would represent not only a significant step forward for a club required to re-prove the doubters wrong every season, but also a sizeable achievement given the draw they were handed. Now to win at this stadium in the Premier League…
Harry Kane
Two goals on Saturday with his right foot, two on Wednesday with his left. Perhaps Kane takes August off every year to give everyone else a chance?
Since the beginning of 2014/15, Kane has now scored 98 times in 144 games for Tottenham. That is an astonishing record for someone so young, someone so English and someone not at a truly elite club. It’s also incredible given Kane’s multipurpose role in Mauricio Pochettino’s attacking system.
They are different types of players, but that goal record is also almost identical to Wayne Rooney’s at his Manchester United peak in the three seasons from 2009/10 onward when Rooney scored 80 goals in 121 club games, 0.68 goals per game (Kane) vs 0.66 (Rooney). The comparison is far from ideal, but still striking. Rooney started that golden period at the age of 24; Kane has only just turned that age.
“Kane was fantastic,” Pochettino said after Kane’s latest two goals. “You can see today, scoring goals in the Champions League. He receives the credit he deserves. For me he’s one of the best strikers in the world. In the Champions League, the most important competition in the world, scoring will give him the credit he deserves.”
You won’t find me disagreeing. It is probably Kane’s Englishness that stops us ever truly believing that he is a superstar of the world game, but the reasons for doub are diminishing by the week. The boy’s a bloody gem.
littlemandefoe
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Unfortunately missed the game. Very pleased to see the result and to see the highlights, some great finishing. Read Dortmund were all over us in the first half but the second half was a little different... Anyone give a quick summary of the game and if we deserved the win or not? (not that I care if we didn't deserve it because a win is a win!)
Saw in the highlights we got lucky with Aubemayang's 'offside' goal.
Saw in the highlights we got lucky with Aubemayang's 'offside' goal.
dontcallme
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In my view they were excellent in possession in the first half. But our defence was strong and we looked very dangerous when in attack.
2nd half was more even in possession but we were even more dangerous in attack.
The officials were not bias but they got a lot wrong. Sissoko was at least 5 yards offside and he was let go. This might have been out of sympathy.
Their player was offside in the build-up to their first but Aubemayang's goals was clearly onside.
Overall through our defensive performance and how threatening we were in attack meant we deserved the win.
Dortmund were better in possession in midfield though.
JollyHappy
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Totally agree for City and Liverpool. Last season, City away and Liverpool home and away were the games where we looked very vulnerable. We clearly have the pace (with Son) to play any time on the break and Harry isn't that slow either!
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I terms of extremes I don't think a Spurs player would have been exposed to two extremes at opposite ends of the scales in his first two matches for us. As far as thoughts must go re Davison Sanchez, he experienced his first game against Everton where they gave us the complete freedom of the park and literally as much time to dwell on the ball as he wanted, as far as pressure goes, it was little to non existent. Fast forward 4 days for your second game at home to Borussia Dortmund, it couldn't have been more of a baptism of fire. There can be few occasions in living memory where we have been have been pressed to within an inch of our lives with literally no time to dwell on the ball, in that first half I have never seen a Spurs team with such quality individuals as we have starved of the ball to that extreme.
In recent times the only teams that have done that have been Liverpool and City in that away game last season, but even their pressing comes nowhere near that.
On other occasions we would have buckled completely under that kind of pressure, but at that same time I don't think I have ever seen a defence as shambolic and non existent or paper thin as theirs was last night, they gave a whole new meaning to the motto 'to dare is to do. We showed great character riding out that storm. I do hope that Poch puts that in his notebook of memories, and whilst I would not like to see us put under such pressure again I would very much like to see us adopt some of those counter attacking tactics against Liverpool and City. We have to find a different way of playing against Liverpool at Wembley and away at Anfield and there may be some very useful elements that we learned from last night that can be adopted.
It was a real good test on an unforgiving pitch where our fitness and concentration levels whilst chasing the ball or not having in and containing the opposition was put to the sternest of examinations. Whilst Real Madrid will not press us like that it will not take a genius to work out that we will probably spend a lot of time without the ball or chasing shadows over both games, so in that respect it will have been valuable experienced gained last night as well as 3 points
In recent times the only teams that have done that have been Liverpool and City in that away game last season, but even their pressing comes nowhere near that.
On other occasions we would have buckled completely under that kind of pressure, but at that same time I don't think I have ever seen a defence as shambolic and non existent or paper thin as theirs was last night, they gave a whole new meaning to the motto 'to dare is to do. We showed great character riding out that storm. I do hope that Poch puts that in his notebook of memories, and whilst I would not like to see us put under such pressure again I would very much like to see us adopt some of those counter attacking tactics against Liverpool and City. We have to find a different way of playing against Liverpool at Wembley and away at Anfield and there may be some very useful elements that we learned from last night that can be adopted.
It was a real good test on an unforgiving pitch where our fitness and concentration levels whilst chasing the ball or not having in and containing the opposition was put to the sternest of examinations. Whilst Real Madrid will not press us like that it will not take a genius to work out that we will probably spend a lot of time without the ball or chasing shadows over both games, so in that respect it will have been valuable experienced gained last night as well as 3 points
Gaz_Gammon
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Like we need a reporter to point this out to us?
Jesus H Christ.
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I think he means to hipsters maybe?
'Fractions of deep completions' and 'Xg is expressed as per possession' ????
Tenner says he's got a beard.
BPR_U16
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I hate this too.
For us though not quite sure what happened yesterday.
As always, we stayed to very end, cheered players off pitch and then scrammed.
Admittedly on different side of Wembley to last year, but we got down Wembley Way really easy - and only had one old sing song in queue whilst waiting at bottom of station steps (and met some good Dortmund fans too)
Got back to car, out station easy and then back home in Bedford by 11.15 - last year was always past midnight and one game it was 1am
I know some like to leave early but just goes to prove sometimes it's not necessary
voxy28
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MARIO GOTZE'S TEETH SMASHED OUT OF PLACE BY SENT OFF VERTONGHEN, REVEAL DORTMUND
http://www.goal.com/en/news/mario-g...-place-by-sent-off/18yx3tq9cgz5z1rl7ck9ag8mws
http://www.goal.com/en/news/mario-g...-place-by-sent-off/18yx3tq9cgz5z1rl7ck9ag8mws
GMI
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I always thought Blondel was going to be a star, along with Rodrigo Defendi, David Limbersky and Phillip Ifil
Saib looked reasonable the few times I saw him play.
I agree though....there are literally 100's of players worse than Sissoko to trot out in the lillywhite.
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Paul Moran, game off.
Japhet
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Gotze looked like he'd spent the summer eating pies, in which case Vertonghen's probably done him a favour.
