Arsenal

riggi said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KissMyArsenaI/status/862739304489111552/video/1

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RickyVilla said:

Dem boyz got riddim blud.

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Danners9 said:

There's a piece in L'Equipe about Wenger and suggests the most likely outcome is he signs a one year deal soon

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1882andallthat said:

There are many on here who have said that they hope Arsenal get top 4 in preference to Liverpool. I can see the logic in this thinking if fans believe it will prolong Wenger's stay and paper over cracks that they refuse to deal with.

I do however think it's high time their luck runs out. There have been occasions since the beginning of the modern day European Champions League format when they have qualified comfortably and it would be churlish of me not to admit that they have done so on some occasions on merit.

It would however also be true to say that there have been more than a few occasions when they have literally scraped into qualifying by the skin of their teeth and when they have we have more often than not been the ones to lose out by the smallest of margins. They have defied the law of averages in that they have never agonisingly fallen the wrong side of the line, to such an extent that there are some but not all sections of their fans who believe it is almost their divine right to always fall the right side of that qualification line when it comes down to the last game of the season, with fortunes swaying in some cases during those last games on the last day of the season fixtures.

It's high time they get to know and experience this bitter disappointment themselves and collectively, in much the same way as Ferguson who almost became immune to being on the receiving end of bitter last minute injury time disappointments having dished it out to so many, it finally caught up with him in that dramatic conclusion that led to the title being snatched away with virtually the last kick of the game by their bitter rivals City, when Augero scored. Many, me included, said that it was about time he and many of the bandwagon jumping Utd fans got a long overdue taste of their own medicine. So for this reason I'm hoping that Arsenal get to experience this and that it's compounded even further by an FA cup final loss a week later.

Some might say I'm being a little vengeful and bitter, but in comparison to the frequency of our disappointments they should have very little to complain about, and as already stated its about time too......

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1882andallthat said:

There are many on here who have said that they hope Arsenal get top 4 in preference to Liverpool. I can see the logic in this thinking if fans believe it will prolong Wenger's stay and paper over cracks that they refuse to deal with.

I do however think it's high time their luck runs out. There have been occasions since the beginning of the modern day European Champions League format when they have qualified comfortably and it would be churlish of me not to admit that they have done so on some occasions on merit.

It would however also be true to say that there have been more than a few occasions when they have literally scraped into qualifying by the skin of their teeth and when they have we have more often than not been the ones to lose out by the smallest of margins. They have defied the law of averages in that they have never agonisingly fallen the wrong side of the line, to such an extent that there are some but not all sections of their fans who believe it is almost their divine right to always fall the right side of that qualification line when it comes down to the last game of the season, with fortunes swaying in some cases during those last games on the last day of the season fixtures.

It's high time they get to know and experience this bitter disappointment themselves and collectively, in much the same way as Ferguson who almost became immune to being on the receiving end of bitter last minute injury time disappointments having dished it out to so many, it finally caught up with him in that dramatic conclusion that led to the title being snatched away with virtually the last kick of the game by their bitter rivals City, when Augero scored. Many, me included, said that it was about time he and many of the bandwagon jumping Utd fans got a long overdue taste of their own medicine. So for this reason I'm hoping that Arsenal get to experience this and that it's compounded even further by an FA cup final loss a week later.

Some might say I'm being a little vengeful and bitter, but in comparison to the frequency of our disappointments they should have very little to complain about, and as already stated its about time too......

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Danners9 said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ather-liverpool-manchester-city-a7737226.html

“We have two leagues,” Wenger said at his Monday morning press conference. “For example, we had to fight very hard at Stoke and Southampton. But some teams once they are safe have a breather, which didn’t happen 10 years ago. The league has changed mentally. Morally it has changed a lot.”

Asked to expand on what that meant, Wenger promised that he would “explain another time”. But the implication was clear enough: teams do not feel the same duty once they are safe.

“Some teams turn up, some teams are on holiday,” Wenger shrugged in frustration. “It is very difficult to plan. You just want your team to do well and to focus completely until the last. To be professional is to do your job properly until the last second of the season.”



Aw bless. Because West Ham rolled over vs Liverpool? it's the same as Chelsea last year vs us (compared to their other games), Swansea last year vs Leicester (and Southampton as well, I think?), and probably countless other games down the years. If you have to rely on others, then you are in trouble. He has a point that some turn up and some are on holiday but it has always been like this, hasn't it? He just didn't notice when his team was in control.

He also means those teams are unprofessional. Well, yes, that's why Chelsea were so low down last year, Swansea last and this, and West Ham as well. If they were professional enough to fight to the end, they would show the same level of intensity throughout the season and be higher up. It must come from the manager; safe, done our job, go out there and see what happens.

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Danners9 said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ather-liverpool-manchester-city-a7737226.html

“We have two leagues,” Wenger said at his Monday morning press conference. “For example, we had to fight very hard at Stoke and Southampton. But some teams once they are safe have a breather, which didn’t happen 10 years ago. The league has changed mentally. Morally it has changed a lot.”

Asked to expand on what that meant, Wenger promised that he would “explain another time”. But the implication was clear enough: teams do not feel the same duty once they are safe.

“Some teams turn up, some teams are on holiday,” Wenger shrugged in frustration. “It is very difficult to plan. You just want your team to do well and to focus completely until the last. To be professional is to do your job properly until the last second of the season.”



Aw bless. Because West Ham rolled over vs Liverpool? it's the same as Chelsea last year vs us (compared to their other games), Swansea last year vs Leicester (and Southampton as well, I think?), and probably countless other games down the years. If you have to rely on others, then you are in trouble. He has a point that some turn up and some are on holiday but it has always been like this, hasn't it? He just didn't notice when his team was in control.

He also means those teams are unprofessional. Well, yes, that's why Chelsea were so low down last year, Swansea last and this, and West Ham as well. If they were professional enough to fight to the end, they would show the same level of intensity throughout the season and be higher up. It must come from the manager; safe, done our job, go out there and see what happens.

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nailsy said:

I think he's right though and he should be speaking up about it. Every year you get teams that reach a certain point and then think they can put their feet up. It's so unprofessional yet we see it happening season after season after season. It's laughable. Anyway Wenger probably should worry about actually qualifying for the champions league rather than their record in the last sixteen.

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Danners9 said:

If you're Bournemouth, say, and secured safety - which must be a huge effort for them - it's natural that the performance would drop off afterwards. Some teams just need to survive. Not sure who Swansea play next, but chances are they will be quite relaxed after last weekend.

Edit: It's WBA - another side known for relaxing after their goal has been achieved.

Stoke were awful vs Arsenal the other day. Had they given up? He probably means West Ham - although they were back to their normal levels after raising their game ten fold for the game with Spurs. If Arsenal had performed better against Palace or West Brom or Watford, they wouldn't need another team's help.

I do generally agree that teams should have more integrity, but they don't and have no obligation to other teams. We had it last year when needing favours and they all rolled over for Leicester. Just how it is - even this year, people looking at the fixtures and hoping Hull were either safe or already down depending on what we wanted.

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TheChosenOne said:

Succinctly put. My sentiments entirely.

Their sense of entitlement just rankles year after year.

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WorcesterTHFC said:

I've probably said this before, but if we reach the stage where we're in the CL more often than not, I hope we don't get the sense of entitlement that you see from the Sky teams.

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