Let's All Laugh At... Let's all wonder what's going on at United?

tiger666 · Jul 24, 2016

Ridiculous amount of money. He isn't worth half that.

Hoddle&Waddle · Jul 24, 2016

Apparently Martial has unfollowed United on social media due to his shirt number being given to Zlatan without even telling him.

thinktank · Jul 24, 2016

Hoddle&Waddle said:
Apparently Martial has unfollowed United on social media due to his shirt number being given to Zlatan without even telling him.

Maureen's man-management magic at work again.

StartingPrice · Jul 24, 2016

Armstrong_11 said:
New twist in Progba transfer....
http://threeandin.com/pogbas-agent-fees-holds-up-united-deal/

Maddness.

Ludicrous.
Woodward proving that they are still feeding at the top table seems more important than common-sense.

I think they have a global fan-base to preserve and commercial deals to protect and it is causing short-termism.

Here's hoping this is Maureen's Clough at Leeds moment

In any case, hugely overpaying for a player that was theirs anyway is win/win for their rivals...and that's assuming he is half as good as the money suggests and I'm not even wholly convinced of that!

StartingPrice · Jul 24, 2016

thinktank said:
Maureen's man-management magic at work again.

I couldn't imagine Fergie, at the height of his powers at least, being so inattentive to a detail like this. He always wanted to know everything about them and their families...and remembered it.

Now, it is like United are so desperate to show they are still who they were, that it is actually getting in the way of them being who they were:
Throwing around money recklessly to show they still have the financial muscle, rather than using the financial muscle wisely to build a squad that demonstrates their financial muscle.
Being so desperate to accommodate one player over squad number (even though it may not have meant that much to him), that they have been inattentive of another and may have seriously put his nose out of joint.
Hiring a succession of managers to show they can still hire a/the top manager, when one of the things that gave them a top manager in the first place was patience and loyalty.

thinktank · Jul 24, 2016

StartingPrice said:
I couldn't imagine Fergie, at the height of his powers at least, being so inattentive to a detail like this. He always wanted to know everything about them and their families...and remembered it.

Now, it is like United are so desperate to show they are still who they were, that it is actually getting in the way of them being who they were:
Throwing around money recklessly to show they still have the financial muscle, rather than using the financial muscle wisely to build a squad that demonstrates their financial muscle.
Being so desperate to accommodate one player over squad number (even though it may not have meant that much to him), that they have been inattentive of another and may have seriously put his nose out of joint.
Hiring a succession of managers to show they can still hire a/the top manager, when one of the things that gave them a top manager in the first place was patience and loyalty.

I know; good innit.

tototoner · Jul 25, 2016

Just after he had this trademarked also

michaelden · Jul 25, 2016

Col_M · Jul 25, 2016

I have to say I have n sympathy of Martial. He's still a nipper and to claim that trade mark at his age is ridiculous. I personally would have changed his number every season just t wind him up. It's not like he's world class and could move to any club in the world and demand that number.

Jose, I salute you.

michaelden · Jul 25, 2016

Col_M said:
I have to say I have n sympathy of Martial. He's still a nipper and to claim that trade mark at his age is ridiculous. I personally would have changed his number every season just t wind him up. It's not like he's world class and could move to any club in the world and demand that number.

Jose, I salute you.

Wasn't he their best forward last season?

hughy · Jul 25, 2016

Why the fuck do players trademark their initials and number? It's fucking idiotic. Fuck off. No one cares.

tiger666 · Jul 25, 2016

hughy said:
Why the fuck do players trademark their initials and number? It's fucking idiotic. Fuck off. No one cares.

Like Bale's heart sign. What a wanker.

Col_M · Jul 25, 2016

michaelden said:
Wasn't he their best forward last season?

Whether he was or wasn't, they were abismal. Other than De Gea not a single player deserves a place in the starting line up.

riggi · Jul 25, 2016

hughy said:
Why the fuck do players trademark their initials and number? It's fucking idiotic. Fuck off. No one cares.

spur_souljah · Jul 25, 2016

hughy said:
Why the fuck do players trademark their initials and number? It's fucking idiotic. Fuck off. No one cares.

But.. But.. Darren Bent is DB9 :cry:

michaelden · Jul 27, 2016

Man Utd Want a Levy

It's been a recurring theme at the club for the past few years, other than di maria, who was sold after one year at a loss, i don't actually remember selling any player for more than peanuts. Plenty of top clubs around europe manage to recoup decent money each summer but it's rarely the case here.

We also seem to loan unwanted players to death rather than outright sell them. Take varela for example, we all know he has no future here, what's the point in another loan?

Is that an indication of how shit our recent squads have been or are we just mishandling this part.

I think you can probably attribute much of this to the fact that we're paying high wages to quite a few below-high standard players. That and the managerial turnover has meant a number of players who might have been ushered out of the door have been given second (or third) chances to prove themselves.

We've only ever sold 7 players for more than £10m and 9 for more than £7.5m and considering Liverpool just sold Joe Allen for £15m, there's no reason we shouldn't get more for players.

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We extract value from our players by keeping them and playing them, and hopefully their contribution to our success is greater than the expenditure we make on them.

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We really don't. We keep players long after they should have been sold. We kept Anderson for 7.5 seasons, we have kept Young for 5 seasons and continue doing so, same about Phil Jones. We even kept Nani for 3 more seasons than we should on which he had a combined 34 appearances, if Fellaini continues, it will be his fourth season here, we gave a contract to Fletcher when he was sick and we didn't know if he'll ever play for us again, Neville was barely able to walk when Fergie was insisting to still play him, fans had forgotten that Wesley Brown and Alan Smith exist when we sold them and so on.

We extract value from our good players, but from average ones (or old/injured ones) there is nothing to extract. Just lose money on wages and avoid new signings or chances to youth players.

Gbspurs · Jul 27, 2016

As a child of the 90's it gives me great pleasure to watch them stumble.

E.L.Strict · Jul 27, 2016

Although this Pogba deal is one of the more convincing rumours of the summer, does anyone else feel like it may go the way of the Bale, Reus, Ronaldo, Ramos transfers? In that it won't happen and will look less and less like it was ever going to happen as time goes on?

United are weird these days.

nailsy · Jul 27, 2016

E.L.Strict said:
Although this Pogba deal is one of the more convincing rumours of the summer, does anyone else feel like it may go the way of the Bale, Reus, Ronaldo, Ramos transfers? In that it won't happen and will look less and less like it was ever going to happen as time goes on?

United are weird these days.

I think this ones going to happen now that Juventus have signed Higuain. It seems like a strange signing though...at least for the money being talked about. He's pretty inconsistent still and he seems like the kind of player that will send Mourinho mad.

michaelden · Jul 27, 2016

nailsy said:
I think this ones going to happen now that Juventus have signed Higuain. It seems like a strange signing though...at least for the money being talked about. He's pretty inconsistent still and he seems like the kind of player that will send Mourinho mad.

is Higgie now a CM? Just wondering on how you linked the purchase of a striker with the sale of a box to box midfielder.

I also support Juve and Pogba has been brilliant in flashes and inconsistent as you say. I do wonder if this signing is about pride more than need.

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