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THFCSPURS19

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Wouldn't be surprised if we go in for mane from Southampton. Young, loads of pace (which we are desperate for imo) and scores plenty too. A typical levy signing
Think he's a bit of a MOTD player. Southampton fans been critical of him this season and he's been disciplined a couple of times this season IIRC. He's 24 as well so not 'that' young.
 

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Think he's a bit of a MOTD player. Southampton fans been critical of him this season and he's been disciplined a couple of times this season IIRC. He's 24 as well so not 'that' young.
Fair comments. Just think there the sort of signings that poch and levy will look to bring in rather than big name signings imo
 

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Whilst i understand the sentiment, do you honestly think we have enough quality in depth to compete in:

A) The PL which will likely be much more competitive next season than this one.
B) The Champions League - much harder teams than the EL.
C) Get a bit further in the domestic cups (we had a weak season in these).

Personally i think we barely have enough to manage one of those tasks next season as it is, let alone all 3.
Next season Pritchard & Njie will be like 2 new signings already and if Son can get back to the player he was in the first few games, then he will make a massive difference to our AM3 and will be almost like 3 new signings (with Pritch and Njie).

Then for the CM 2, we have Bentaleb, who could come back from his injuries and be the player that was our best CM last season and Mason, who has been playing with a knee injury most of the season, goes for surgery to fix it in the summer. All these players plus signing another striker, will make a huge difference next season, though I wouldn't be against upgrading on Carroll (though we may already have the potential upgrade in Winks) and Chadli if someone like O.Dembele or Boufal was available.
 

Bus-Conductor

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so after watching some clips of dembele and batshuayi i've come to notice a few things

- batshuayi plays alot like kane. especially this skill of backing up against the defender, letting the ball run for a bit more instead of controlling it, then turn around to get off a shot/beat the defender without needing to trap the ball. this is a very very underated skill, those who plays football will know how effective this move is, and is often used by players who knows how to create openspace for themselves in tight situations. kane, dembele uses them the most.

2. dembele can play across the amrlc. good pace( not yet blazing. blazing is aubameyang ) and dribbling are his greatest asset.

For CF option, i would say if poch is looking for a like for like understudy for kane, batshuayi is the man. there wouldnt be a need for tactical changes, but then comes the problem of if we cant unlock the defence, we will not have a different tactic to beat it.

if poch is looking for a different option that can play upfront, yet able to pair up with kane as well, lacazette is the man to get.

For AML option, currently dembele feels alot, alot like njie. potential wise dembele is definitely higher, but you cant deny the similarity. first decision before all these is definitely sell chadli though. with chadli gone it means we will have a rotation of


AML eriksen njie son
AMC alli onomah eriksen
AMR lamela son njie

to be honest unless somebody goes, its hard to see how dembele is gonna fit into this rotation especially with pritchard coming back next season. i think he would be a good purchase and i do feel that he has more potential than pritchard, njie and son, especially with him being 18years old meaning he can become clubgrown, but its hard to see him and njie fighting for the same spot because that will definitely slow down his improvement.


In and around the box I agree Batshuayi could be compared to Kane. Strong, direct, good positional and timing sense. But that's where the comparison ends. Batshuayi does not drop deep, drift wide and work channels like Kane, his hold up play isn't that great, he doesn't create as many chances for others, his work without the ball vastly inferior, pressing not as good.

Whether that could be worked on and improved is open to debate, but they really aren't the same player.

I think (O) Dembele's finishing has the potential to be as good as Batshuayi's (Dembele actually has more goals per 90 than both Kane and Batshuayi this season) and he will be really effective played as any of the AM positions, but I think played as a CF, Dembele will also do that other stuff that Kane does. He'll drop and drift, get on the ball in various areas, his work off the ball (tackles/interceptions) is already on par, creates more chances per 90 for others than Kane (albeit in an easier league and playing as an AM).

Dembele is a far better option IMO whether you want him to back up Kane or (and) play in other AM/wide forward positions.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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In and around the box I agree Batshuayi could be compared to Kane. Strong, direct, good positional and timing sense. But that's where the comparison ends. Batshuayi does not drop deep, drift wide and work channels like Kane, his hold up play isn't that great, he doesn't create as many chances for others, his work without the ball vastly inferior, pressing not as good.

Whether that could be worked on and improved is open to debate, but they really aren't the same player.

I think (O) Dembele's finishing has the potential to be as good as Batshuayi's (Dembele actually has more goals per 90 than both Kane and Batshuayi this season) and he will be really effective played as any of the AM positions, but I think played as a CF, Dembele will also do that other stuff that Kane does. He'll drop and drift, get on the ball in various areas, his work off the ball (tackles/interceptions) is already on par, creates more chances per 90 for others than Kane (albeit in an easier league and playing as an AM).

Dembele is a far better option IMO whether you want him to back up Kane or (and) play in other AM/wide forward positions.
Thanks for that. He sounds almost too good to be true. Are the links just newspaper speculation or is there anything more concrete? During last summers window, you championed Embolo as a potentially decent acquisition. Do you think Dembele offers a similar thing?
 

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In and around the box I agree Batshuayi could be compared to Kane. Strong, direct, good positional and timing sense. But that's where the comparison ends. Batshuayi does not drop deep, drift wide and work channels like Kane, his hold up play isn't that great, he doesn't create as many chances for others, his work without the ball vastly inferior, pressing not as good.

Whether that could be worked on and improved is open to debate, but they really aren't the same player.

I think (O) Dembele's finishing has the potential to be as good as Batshuayi's (Dembele actually has more goals per 90 than both Kane and Batshuayi this season) and he will be really effective played as any of the AM positions, but I think played as a CF, Dembele will also do that other stuff that Kane does. He'll drop and drift, get on the ball in various areas, his work off the ball (tackles/interceptions) is already on par, creates more chances per 90 for others than Kane (albeit in an easier league and playing as an AM).

Dembele is a far better option IMO whether you want him to back up Kane or (and) play in other AM/wide forward positions.

There is me thinking Batshuayi was similar almost to Neymar :facepalm:
 

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Thanks for that. He sounds almost too good to be true. Are the links just newspaper speculation or is there anything more concrete? During last summers window, you championed Embolo as a potentially decent acquisition. Do you think Dembele offers a similar thing?

He's still 18 and has rough edges for sure, but for an 18yo he is showing real personality and character and imposing himself on games. Add that to his ability and skill set and you have huge potential.

Embolo and Dembele are not quite the same, Dembele likes to run/dribble at players more I think, but I like both players very much. Both are robust enough for the EPL, but both are multi faceted, hard working, technically very good, hold the ball well, bring others into play. But both can score goals too.

I'd be happy with either.
 

DaSpurs

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Wouldn't be surprised if we go in for mane from Southampton. Young, loads of pace (which we are desperate for imo) and scores plenty too. A typical levy signing

I wish. We absolutely should have signed him in 2014 when Poch was hung up on Rodriguez. I think it's pretty clear since then who we should have actually been chasing. I think he would provide a lot of the qualities still missing in the attack.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Wouldn't be surprised if we go in for mane from Southampton. Young, loads of pace (which we are desperate for imo) and scores plenty too. A typical levy signing

Doubt it. We have Njie, who is a very similar player and we haven't seen the best of yet.
 
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