England were poor and this group aren't as good as the 2014 group who are one of the best in recent times
Edwards was good but he needs to step it up imo, he isn't as good as Barkley or Onomah showed for the U17's. Though both Onomah and Barkley had the luxury of being the no.10 or in CM
Sterling should be starting imo, he is one of our best in that age group
Whiteman, had a good game but imo should have down better for the goal, he should of dive towards the ball rather throw himself at the ball
DaSilva didn't play like the DaSilva of Chelsea who bombs down the wings
Do FIFA live stream this tournament?
The 2014 group were definitely better. That 97 group is incredibly talented.
I think you're harsh on Edwards. He is very different to Onomah, he was clearly England's most outstanding player and is a different style to Onomah. He is a small no.10 who can play RW whereas Onomah is a ball carrying CM at that age group that can play 10. Edwards is arguably the best player in his age group in Europe and potentially the world at the moment. He had a badish game yesterday and yet still put Mavididi through on goal, won a penalty and was on a different level to everyone.
Sterling should 100% be starting, Mavididi is shocking, how he ran the ball out of play was bad. Hinds/Sterling rotating between up front and on the right would work well.
I kind of agree about Whiteman. I thought he was excellent, but looking at his goal, it did seem as though he sort of threw himself in the air rather than dive towards it. But tbf the ball may have been hit too hard past him and he was just reacting as opposed to being able to save it. When the ball has been smashed it;s hard to instinctively push off with your legs in a certain direction when you're unsure if it will go to your left or right, and as a keeper you should never be beaten at your near post so there was no way he was going to commit to going to his right too early.
Chelsea and normal England DaSilva needs to return. He usually plays well for England. Davies, Mavididi, Kane, Williams and Suliman did nothing and don't look like they have anything in their locker. Play Patching deeper and I reckon Wood being from Man City may be technically better than Davies or Kane, and hold onto the ball better. Tbh I think Marsh is better than Davies from what I've seen of him, he'd do better in there. Want to see Humphreys and Collinge at the back
The '97 group will definitely take some beating! Will be extremely disappointed if 3 or 4 of the guys now in this U19 squad don't become regulars for the senior team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_under-19_football_teamThe 2014 group were definitely better. That 97 group is incredibly talented.
TBF I did say edwards played well, at the level he wants to be and I know he can be he needs to start running games irregardless of his games and during this game we did see glimpses of that. He isn't being played in the middle and I think that is partially stopping him from running games but he has the potential to be moreThe 2014 group were definitely better. That 97 group is incredibly talented.
I think you're harsh on Edwards. He is very different to Onomah, he was clearly England's most outstanding player and is a different style to Onomah. He is a small no.10 who can play RW whereas Onomah is a ball carrying CM at that age group that can play 10. Edwards is arguably the best player in his age group in Europe and potentially the world at the moment. He had a badish game yesterday and yet still put Mavididi through on goal, won a penalty and was on a different level to everyone.
Sterling should 100% be starting, Mavididi is shocking, how he ran the ball out of play was bad. Hinds/Sterling rotating between up front and on the right would work well.
I kind of agree about Whiteman. I thought he was excellent, but looking at his goal, it did seem as though he sort of threw himself in the air rather than dive towards it. But tbf the ball may have been hit too hard past him and he was just reacting as opposed to being able to save it. When the ball has been smashed it;s hard to instinctively push off with your legs in a certain direction when you're unsure if it will go to your left or right, and as a keeper you should never be beaten at your near post so there was no way he was going to commit to going to his right too early.
Chelsea and normal England DaSilva needs to return. He usually plays well for England. Davies, Mavididi, Kane, Williams and Suliman did nothing and don't look like they have anything in their locker. Play Patching deeper and I reckon Wood being from Man City may be technically better than Davies or Kane, and hold onto the ball better. Tbh I think Marsh is better than Davies from what I've seen of him, he'd do better in there. Want to see Humphreys and Collinge at the back
It is one thing Edwards does not do is run games from start to finish he tends to do is work in patches and a lot of last season he finished games stronger than he started them because they moved him off that F***ing right,he has not played as well as he did last year but you could say that about the u18s team as a hole because they have not found a team balance yet.Defensively he is a nightmare and often completely stops moving when he does not have the ball,this drivers me mad in any player the very best players the likes of Scholes never stop moving and that is what made him so hard to mark and this is something i would like to see Edwards add to his game because in and around the box he is a special player.TBF I did say edwards played well, at the level he wants to be and I know he can be he needs to start running games irregardless of his games and during this game we did see glimpses of that. He isn't being played in the middle and I think that is partially stopping him from running games but he has the potential to be more
His problem today wasn't size but more of an issue of trying to go past too many players to get in to the middle and run things
They are trying to play him as a RW but he needs time to get use to that role and more importantly space and thats hard when you have 2 strikers next to you and no CM that can provide him with decent service
Im not expecting him to run the games from start from finish but over 90mins in the middle he would be creating a lot more chances and constantly being a threat throughout the gameIt is one thing Edwards does not do is run games from start to finish he tends to do is work in patches and a lot of last season he finished games stronger than he started them because they moved him off that F***ing right,he has not played as well as he did last year but you could say that about the u18s team as a hole because they have not found a team balance yet.Defensively he is a nightmare and often completely stops moving when he does not have the ball,this drivers me mad in any player the very best players the likes of Scholes never stop moving and that is what made him so hard to mark and this is something i would like to see Edwards add to his game because in and around the box he is a special player.
I have to admit that I am not a fan of Inverted Wingers.Im not expecting him to run the games from start from finish but over 90mins in the middle he would be creating a lot more chances and constantly being a threat throughout the game
I agree for us he hasn't been as good since he has been moved to the right.
IMO he was on track to be consistent U21 player and a sub performance this season had he continued that form from the right.
Whilst in the short term being on the right wont be good in the long term it will help him but he needs to play in a system that allows him space
People try and create the Barcelona system imo with the inverted wingers but overlook the key stuff they did to create space for each other imo our first team is also guilty of this
TBF I did say edwards played well, at the level he wants to be and I know he can be he needs to start running games irregardless of his games and during this game we did see glimpses of that. He isn't being played in the middle and I think that is partially stopping him from running games but he has the potential to be more
His problem today wasn't size but more of an issue of trying to go past too many players to get in to the middle and run things
They are trying to play him as a RW but he needs time to get use to that role and more importantly space and thats hard when you have 2 strikers next to you and no CM that can provide him with decent service
The thing that really depressed me though is how England's Status One category academies are producing so few class players given the (generally) fantastic facilities and the money spent.
The '97 group will definitely take some beating! Will be extremely disappointed if 3 or 4 of the guys now in this U19 squad don't become regulars for the senior team: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_under-19_football_team
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' Which clubs are you thinking. I think the big 3 do a good job in producing top players and the others generally do enough to supplement but everything is in cycles. Year above this one are are excellent, the years below current u17s are very good but the current u16s could potentially challenge the current u19s the way they're looking in midfield anyway.'
I assume you mean Chelsea, Man City and Spurs at youth level. Add Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd and Everton . They do not produce the quality or quantity to justify the expense especially if you discount foreign imports. Looking at the choice of forwards at U17 level (those qualifying for this WC U17) we seem to be relying on Arsenal - Hinds., Willock ( a winger but very good), Mavidid with the others being Sterling (Spurs) , Ugbo (Chelsea), Holland (Everton - more a winger), Nmecha (Man City) and that about it from 7 top clubs. 5 forwards? Pretty slim pickings I think. I wonder how much money/ quality of facilities are at the disposal of Guinea? I suppose I should take consolation in the fact that South Korea beat the mighty Brazil 1-0 in our group. The next England game against Brazil could see Brazil being knocked out- how the mighty have fallen - even at this level. What does worry me is how well the African countries are doing especially when there are constant question marks against the true age of the players.