Huzzah the magical 'play me or I'm off quotes' appear and to be honest there is absolutely nothing in that. What I see is a hungry player who wants to play games for Spurs, this my friend is called ambition and a player who wants to improve. I'd take a young player who thinks he's good enough for the first team and thinks he deserves a shot over a player who is happy to sit on the bench, make the odd cameo appearance and collect his wage.
What's more is that we've just signed another left back hence now he knows he'll have competition for his place yet he still signed a new contract. That doesn't sound like a player who wants to leave nor does it sound like he has an attitude problem.
Or, perhaps the signing of some proper competition for his spot has opened his eyes a bit and made him realise that he will have to fight for the job. I'm always prepared to give someone another chance, if they have shown signs of promise, but on the attitude alone that he displayed when away on loan (claiming he was too good for lower sides, lazy in training, sloppy, stroppy and general prima-donna-ness) it leads me to think he is another young player who has bought his own hype and believes he deserves a shot that, frankly, he has not earned.
Looking at his general attitude on the pitch, the OP mentions how other teams are targetting him as our weak link - maybe that's because they too see him, every match, bombing forward and then wombling back like he's got all day about it. It wasn't a hard tactic to figure out that, if Rose is playing then counter and hoof the ball down his flank, you'll have all the space in the world (and don't anybody bother trying to suggest any of our CB's should be fanning out to cover him, considering they've been forced to play almost on the half way line for most of the season, and none of whom have any pace to speak of). He CANNOT have missed this - if he hasn't noticed the pattern that formed quite early and persisted throughout the season then i have no time for him.
Combine the two and you get someone who believes they are already great and apparently isn't concerned about this clearly huge fail to his game - if he isn't prepared to adapt and take constructive criticism then what other options do we have? Certainly not building a team around him, but i have a feeling that's the sort of thing his ego would be satisfied with.
Its funny how players like Vertonghen, Keane, Berbatov are revered on the pitch yet all three you could easily say that they have attitude as well. Robbie Keane used to point, shout and moan around the pitch, used to sulk when he got subbed and wasn't picked and assaulted a fellow team mate yet he was seen as a hero (before he sneaked away to Liverpool) yet Danny puffs out his chest he is seen as the devil reincarnate, baffling.
Erm... i sort of answered the questions you put there in the post you quoted.
The "evidence" is the news articles (which, no, i can't be arsed to go find) regarding the concerns over his attitude at loan clubs and comments made by the managers he played under, the forms posts on them clubs respective forums (no, again, too lazy and really don't care that much if you believe me or not) regarding the way he was acting on and off the pitch, the fact that we have seen, with our own eyes, the way he reacts to his defensive duties and how that repeatedly left the team wide, wide open - sure, blame the manager, but there is such thing as making the best of a bad situation and perhaps if he had opened his gait a little more and shown the same tenacity getting back as he did trying to get forward, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
He is little more than average as a player in the skills department, though has shown promise in the past - how many years can someone show promise before you have to wonder if that is as good as it gets? We've had this before with so many youngsters at Spurs, and it didn't help that he scored a worldie on his debut against the Woolwich, yet he talks and acts like with an arrogance like he belongs at the top table and wouldn't accept anything less - a trait you praise as showing drive and desire, but if you've not got the necessary to be there? Where does that leave you?
His game hasn't improved at all since he debuted for us, if anything it's gone downhill as each week has passed - now he has some actual competition who is, arguably, a more rounded player with a far more suitably defensive attitude, perhaps he will realise he has to knuckle down else he would be where he said he wouldn't be - on the bench.
As i clearly said, prepared to give anyone a second chance, but why make so much effort for a very, very average player when there are better out there who don't swag about all over the shop, like they've got something to brag about.
I will single out your last paragraph though - comparing these three to Danny Rose is hilarious - Vertonghen has been touted as a superstar in the making for a while now, and not only by us, and the other two have proven, on so many levels, that they were in fact the real deal.
Lets wait until Rose is into his mid 30's then go over this comparison again, see who has the most gold stars on their report sheet.
Something fun to look forward to
You can't dine out on a worldie forever though, just ask Bentley...."It didn't help"..listen to yourself ffs God forbid one of our players scored a worldie against our rivals no doubt and he gains confidence from it.
He would not have been offered a new contract unless Poch thinks he can do a job. So we'll have to give him the chance to prove Poch is right.
"It didn't help"..listen to yourself ffs God forbid one of our players scored a worldie against our rivals no doubt and he gains confidence from it.
So hang on wait these supposed news article in which rather conveniently you can't be asked to go and find and comments made by previous managers, honestly mate you don't have a clue do you, you're just making stuff up. Well you've made the claim so you should do the decent thing of actually backing it up rather than passing it off as hearsay.
His game has actually improved if you've bothered to follow him... blah blah blah
honestly mate you don't have a clue do you, you're just making stuff up
I feel young Danny boy has come in for a hell of a lot of stick over the last year, and the majority has been completely unnecessary.
To start with according to most he had a rubbish season, please tell me which defender had a good season, even Vertongen who is easily are best defender looked pretty shit last season. I think our problem defensively last season was that to start with under AVB we played in a very strict style so our attacking was woeful, luckily due to some penalties and our high level of possession we won games, but after a while teams realised that we were pretty impotent going forward so started applying pressure and as our possession went down, we had to defend more and more, plus with injuries we weren't playing with the same back four regularly and that's when the goals against us started to go up and up, this left our whole defense as a laughing stock, and a lot targeted Danny as the problem.
When we changed to Sherwood the attacking got better( not exactly a hard achievement) this was due to him just letting players of such a tight leash, and allowing them to go and do what they wanted, but this left our defense disorganised and subject to counters, and often they came down our left, so yet again Danny got more of the blame, so why has our left side been such an Achilles ankle to us?
Also why did he have such a good season at Sunderland, well to start with they have quite a few left footed midfielders, who would naturally work with Danny, so when he bombed forward they would cover, plus when defending he had the support of a left midfielder, so they could double team the attacker.
Now back to Spurs, last season we played the majority of the time with right footed players in the LM position plus we often played Eriksson in that position then gave him a free role, which meant they went wondering and left no cover for Danny, plus I'm sure Sherwood told him to get forward to provide some width and attacking options on the left, THIS is what left us dreadfully exposed on the left, and lead to people saying Danny was way out of position, leaving Danny in a no win situation.
Now I'm not saying I think he's the best LB in the world but he's certainly not as bad as people make out, and I think this season with some better organisation and fewer injuries our defense should look loads better, I for one wouldn't mind seeing Rose and Davies playing LM and LB respectively for some games as they could solve the Left sided problem together.
COYS
Or, perhaps the signing of some proper competition for his spot has opened his eyes a bit and made him realise that he will have to fight for the job. I'm always prepared to give someone another chance, if they have shown signs of promise, but on the attitude alone that he displayed when away on loan (claiming he was too good for lower sides, lazy in training, sloppy, stroppy and general prima-donna-ness) it leads me to think he is another young player who has bought his own hype and believes he deserves a shot that, frankly, he has not earned.
Looking at his general attitude on the pitch, the OP mentions how other teams are targetting him as our weak link - maybe that's because they too see him, every match, bombing forward and then wombling back like he's got all day about it. It wasn't a hard tactic to figure out that, if Rose is playing then counter and hoof the ball down his flank, you'll have all the space in the world (and don't anybody bother trying to suggest any of our CB's should be fanning out to cover him, considering they've been forced to play almost on the half way line for most of the season, and none of whom have any pace to speak of). He CANNOT have missed this - if he hasn't noticed the pattern that formed quite early and persisted throughout the season then i have no time for him.
Combine the two and you get someone who believes they are already great and apparently isn't concerned about this clearly huge fail to his game - if he isn't prepared to adapt and take constructive criticism then what other options do we have? Certainly not building a team around him, but i have a feeling that's the sort of thing his ego would be satisfied with.
I think it's time to stop using the internet for a while. Some questionable conclusions in this post which smacks of immaturity.
Confidence is the single most important factor in sport - how does anyone expect our young players to have a chance at making it when our fans are so quick to get on their backs? Its a serious problem IMO.