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Yves Bissouma sprayed with tear gas outside 5* French hotel before muggers make off with £260,000 watch

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Oscar22

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It’s also worth considering that when people talk about losing touch with reality, you need to consider people have different realities.

To me £250 is a decent, handy chunk of money. However if you earn ten times more than what I earn, the reality is that £250 seems a much smaller piece of change.

For most of us on this thread, £260k on a watch is dreamland, but on Biss’s earnings, he probably pays for that in a week or two. People see money comparatively to how much they earn.
 
Locotoro

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southlondonyiddo said:
Whilst I cannot condone that behaviour and have sympathy for their experience I cannot comprehend or morally understand spending that amount of money on a watch

Something seriously fucked up with us with this huge disparity between rich & poor
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A watch of that value we're talking about here equates to around 2 weeks wages.

Now if anyone here is going to tell me they have never spunked 2 weeks wages on something they really wanted then they are talking out of their arse.

And then to say there's no sympathy when the guy has been assaulted and pepper sprayed, had his wife assaulted and pepper sprayed and all because he bought something he liked, that he thought he deserved at a treat for the work he has put in. That to me says more about the people commenting than Biss.

If you want to argue that the watch is overpriced then go for it but that's nothing to do with Biss.
 
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Locotoro said:
A watch of the value we're talking here equates to around 2 weeks wages.

Now if anyone here is going to tell me they have never spunked 2 weeks wages on something they really wanted them they are talking out of their arse.

And then to say there's no sympathy when the guy has been assaulted and pepper sprayed, had his wife assaulted and pepper sprayed and all because he bought something he liked, that he thought he deserved at a treat for the work he has put in. That to me says more about the people commenting than Biss.

If you want to argue that the watch is overpriced then go for it but that's nothing to do with Biss.
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The funny thing is we don’t even know he brought it. Might have been a gift for all we know.
 
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Locotoro said:
A watch of the value we're talking here equates to around 2 weeks wages.

Now if anyone here is going to tell me they have never spunked 2 weeks wages on something they really wanted them they are talking out of their arse.

And then to say there's no sympathy when the guy has been assaulted and pepper sprayed, had his wife assaulted and pepper sprayed and all because he bought something he liked, that he thought he deserved at a treat for the work he has put in. That to me says more about the people commenting than Biss.

If you want to argue that the watch is overpriced then go for it but that's nothing to do with Biss.
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Indeed. I have a watch ( that I wear regularly, not just sitting in a box) that is worth more or less a month’s take home pay.

Many people would think that’s ridiculous ( which is fair enough as there are times when I think the same 😁, then again I often think the amount of money some people spend on booze a month is ridiculous).

Doesn’t mean I deserve to be mugged.

How many posters here have TV’s worth a grand or more? Do they deserve to be burgled because they aren’t watching on a supermarket discount special?
 
DenverSpur

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E17yid said:
Dislike all you want but how is this really different to saying to a woman, “well, wearing that mini skirt and low cut top showing your cleavage is asking for trouble, I hate the fact you were raped it’s horrible but maybe you shouldn’t walk around dressed like that. Hey, it’s your body do what you want with it but don’t go moaning when some rapist rapes you, have some common sense”

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It’s not comparable at all.
 
PLTuck

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Absolute bastards. This sort of thing can be mentally and emotionally incredibly destructive. I hope he gets any and all support he wants.

And victim blaming is victim blaming, regardless of whether its a robbery or a rape, or any other crime.
 
E17yid

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southlondonyiddo said:
Doesn’t need to mate. Obviously no comparison

It’s like asking why you think Nigel Farage is a ****. No explanation needed
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You don’t even think they’re a little bit similar in the sense that, in both cases, at least partial blame is assigned to the victim. @DenverSpur said

“if you walk around in public with 260k of bling on you you are asking to be robbed.”

If you honestly think there’s no comparison there I don’t know what to say.
 
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southlondonyiddo said:
Doesn’t need to mate. Obviously no comparison

It’s like asking why you think Nigel Farage is a ****. No explanation needed
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Here’s an explanation.

In case 1, a person makes an entirely legitimate personal choice about their appearance, suffers a violent attack and is blamed for bringing it on themselves.


In case 2, a person makes an entirely legitimate personal choice about their appearance, suffers a violent attack and is blamed for bringing it on themselves.

The only differences are the seriousness of the assault and the fact that a few people on here don’t like someone having an expensive watch
 
E17yid

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Thenewcat said:
Here’s an explanation.

In case 1, a person makes an entirely legitimate personal choice about their appearance, suffers a violent attack and is blamed for bringing it on themselves.


In case 2, a person makes an entirely legitimate personal choice about their appearance, suffers a violent attack and is blamed for bringing it on themselves.

The only differences are the seriousness of the assault and the fact that a few people on here don’t like someone having an expensive watch
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Yeah, I think it’s just some people, rightly, see rape as so abhorrent that they can’t see the comparison. Having your watch nicked, in the grand scheme of things, isn’t the worst thing in the world so some might be less sympathetic to the victim especially when it’s such an expensive item.
 
Nerine

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Well, a couple of posters have really shown themselves up to be prize bells in this thread.
 
Dannyspur

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This should be about the nature of the attack and not the value of what was stolen. We don't know what Yves Bissouma's psychological state is. He may be able to take this in his stride, but if, like many young men, he has any propensity to mental health issues, this could have potentially devastating and long lasting consequences. I hope that he is able to get over the trauma quickly and completely.
 
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