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TEESSIDE1

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I miss Paratici. He came across as having a plan, organised, identified targets early and was aggressive in pursuing players (no pissing about).

Now we’ve got Lange - the transfer committee reminds me of the Trees on the Lord of Rings… spend hours, days, weeks and now what feels like months pissing about. Hopefully Paratici returns after his ban ends as it feels like we’re going backwards.

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Bluto Blutarsky

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I miss Paratici. He came across as having a plan, organised, identified targets early and was aggressive in pursuing players (no pissing about).
I think this is really more about Ange saying - I don't want players for the sake of getting players - they need to be the right ones or don't bother.
 

TEESSIDE1

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I think this is really more about Ange saying - I don't want players for the sake of getting players - they need to be the right ones or don't bother.

Poch said the same and it ultimately cost him his job. There’s no sugar coating that we’ve serious deficiencies in the squad.
 

coyspurs18

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Poch said the same and it ultimately cost him his job. There’s no sugar coating that we’ve serious deficiencies in the squad.
I think with Ange it’s been stated that he’s more married to a player profile rather than the specific player. I could be wrong here though admittedly.
 

spurs9

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If I was making the decisions:

GK: Vicario, Austin
RB: Porro, Spence
RCB: Romero, Dragusin
LCB: VdV, Davies
LB: Udogie, Donley
CM(6): Bissouma, Gray
CM(8): Sarr, Bergvall, Bentancur*
CM(10): Maddison, Kulusevski
LW: Son, Werner
Striker: Richarlison, David
RW: Neto, Johnson

Squad: Moore, Lankshear, Devine

*We have only 1 spot for a non-HG player in Europa - but I would not register Forster to free up the extra roster spot. (16 non-HG, and 5 association trained HG)

If we bring in a 3rd player (i.e. an Eze) - non-HG or Association Trained - we would have to leave someone else off the Europa League squad.
GK: Vicario, Austin, Forster (don't register for Europe)
RB: Porro, Spence
RCB: Romero, Dragusin
LCB: VdV, Davies
LB: Udogie, Donley
CM(6): Bissouma/Bentancur, Gray
CM(8): Sarr, Bergvall, Devine
CM(10): Eze, Maddison
LW: Son, Werner
Striker: Richarlison, Solanke/Gyokeres, Kulusevski
RW: Neto/Chiesa, Johnson

For me, think we can only fit one of Bissouma or Bentancur in the squad.

Big question marks over Richarlison, Johnson and Maddison for me and I'm not 100% comfortable with the LB situation.
 

cliff jones

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That just completely ignores what actually happened when Davies was filling in for VDV, and when he was available to come on for Udogie later in games. He never let us down, was never found out. One game I can remember (Palace away) where he started left back and got hooked at half time, but otherwise he never let us down. Not in the same category at all with Dier and Højbjerg, on multiple levels.
His defending at the Lane v Saka was pathetic, and naive, for such an experienced player. And at yesterday's intensity, he can't cope defensively.

But I say keep for another year. Hes a decent option and can pass the ball.

We have bigger holes to fill.
 

cliff jones

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We’re playing a big game against high level opposition like yesterday. How many first XI level players could we count on?

Is it 13 or 14, at a push? With many of those having obvious weaknesses…

Vicario- must stop dangerous flapping and kicking out in no gain scenarios

Porro- suspect defensively

Udog- oft injured

VDV- hamstrings

Romero- disciplinary

Radu- unbalanced playing on the left

Bissouma- lacks concentration and positioning

Bentancur- a yard short in his recovery

Maddison- struggling to impose himself, too many touches

Sarr- questionable technique especially first touch facing his own goal

Johnson- drifts out of games for long periods

Werner- one trick pony who can’t finish

Son- can be bullied

Richarlison- perma crock with dodgy first touch

Kulu- physical but won’t hold it up well enough v a Kim, Saliba, VDV etc

Davies- no pace

Spence?

Solomon- plays with his head down

Bergvall and Gray- too soon??

Moore, Devine, Lankshear- way too soon??

Have I missed anyone?

Where are the upsides?

Think this could be a very long season
 
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Tottenham_God

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We’re playing a big game against high level opposition like yesterday. How many first XI level players could we count on?

Is it 13 or 14, at a push? With many of those having obvious weaknesses…

Vicario- must stop dangerous flapping and kicking out in no gain scenarios

Porro- suspect defensively

Udog- oft injured

VDV- hamstrings

Romero- disciplinary

Radu- unbalanced playing on the left

Bissouma- lacks concentration and positioning

Bentancur- a yard short in his recovery

Maddison- struggling to impose himself, too many touches

Sarr- questionable technique especially first touch facing his own goal

Johnson- drifts out of games for long periods

Werner- one trick pony who can’t finish

Son- can be bullied

Richarlison- perma crock with dodgy first touch

Kulu- physical but won’t hold it up well enough v a Kim, Saliba, VDV etc

Davies- no pace

Spence?

Solomon- plays with his head down

Bergvall and Gray- too soon??

Moor Lankshear- way too soon??

Have I missed anyone?

Where are the upsides?

Think this could be a very long season
Bizarre post
 

TommyGee

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We’re playing a big game against high level opposition like yesterday. How many first XI level players could we count on?

Is it 13 or 14, at a push? With many of those having obvious weaknesses…

Vicario- must stop dangerous flapping and kicking out in no gain scenarios

Porro- suspect defensively

Udog- oft injured

VDV- hamstrings

Romero- disciplinary

Radu- unbalanced playing on the left

Bissouma- lacks concentration and positioning

Bentancur- a yard short in his recovery

Maddison- struggling to impose himself, too many touches

Sarr- questionable technique especially first touch facing his own goal

Johnson- drifts out of games for long periods

Werner- one trick pony who can’t finish

Son- can be bullied

Richarlison- perma crock with dodgy first touch

Kulu- physical but won’t hold it up well enough v a Kim, Saliba, VDV etc

Davies- no pace

Spence?

Solomon- plays with his head down

Bergvall and Gray- too soon??

Moor Lankshear- way too soon??

Have I missed anyone?

Where are the upsides?

Think this could be a very long season

Is this an audition for a new AFTV spin-off? Holy melt..
 

Westmorlandspur

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We’re playing a big game against high level opposition like yesterday. How many first XI level players could we count on?

Is it 13 or 14, at a push? With many of those having obvious weaknesses…

Vicario- must stop dangerous flapping and kicking out in no gain scenarios

Porro- suspect defensively

Udog- oft injured

VDV- hamstrings

Romero- disciplinary

Radu- unbalanced playing on the left

Bissouma- lacks concentration and positioning

Bentancur- a yard short in his recovery

Maddison- struggling to impose himself, too many touches

Sarr- questionable technique especially first touch facing his own goal

Johnson- drifts out of games for long periods

Werner- one trick pony who can’t finish

Son- can be bullied

Richarlison- perma crock with dodgy first touch

Kulu- physical but won’t hold it up well enough v a Kim, Saliba, VDV etc

Davies- no pace

Spence?

Solomon- plays with his head down

Bergvall and Gray- too soon??

Moore, Devine, Lankshear- way too soon??

Have I missed anyone?

Where are the upsides?

Think this could be a very long season
Look on the bright side ,why don’t you?
 

markt

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We’re playing a big game against high level opposition like yesterday. How many first XI level players could we count on?

Is it 13 or 14, at a push? With many of those having obvious weaknesses…

Vicario- must stop dangerous flapping and kicking out in no gain scenarios

Porro- suspect defensively

Udog- oft injured

VDV- hamstrings

Romero- disciplinary

Radu- unbalanced playing on the left

Bissouma- lacks concentration and positioning

Bentancur- a yard short in his recovery

Maddison- struggling to impose himself, too many touches

Sarr- questionable technique especially first touch facing his own goal

Johnson- drifts out of games for long periods

Werner- one trick pony who can’t finish

Son- can be bullied

Richarlison- perma crock with dodgy first touch

Kulu- physical but won’t hold it up well enough v a Kim, Saliba, VDV etc

Davies- no pace

Spence?

Solomon- plays with his head down

Bergvall and Gray- too soon??

Moore, Devine, Lankshear- way too soon??

Have I missed anyone?

Where are the upsides?

Think this could be a very long season

Not that anything you said is that wrong, all players have weaknesses, but this is a bit overly dramatic

A lot of these players also showed some excellent stuff last season too. Our squad needs work, particularly up front, plus our midfielders went woefully out of form.

But people seem to forget we went from 8th to 5th with a much younger side, playing much better football.
 

kremlyn

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I've got this feeling that we are after 3 or four players this window. I also think it's not inconceivable that we could spend bigly on a CF. I know this doesn't tally with itk but it makes some sense as they are positions that obviously need filling.

There is also, on top of the reported chest of 200 mil the potential income from selling some of our squad players and possibly Richy too. We're not going to get big money but it could add up.

Those positions are CAM, CF, RW and LB.

I think RW is sewn up with Neto. He's clearly first choice for Ange and, importantly, there's no real competition and we're willing to spend on him. Probably 60 mil but could be slightly less. If it goes wrong then the alternatives are Chiesa and below, meaning fees below 30-40 mil.

CAM is clearly Eze but we're aware that there are alternatives including Baena for less if it comes to it. The 20-30 mil difference could then be added to the CF fund...

This is where it gets interesting. If we get Eze and Neto we'll be shopping in the Solanke, Toney or even the Feyenoord striker aisle.

If we don't get the above we have a very different profile of striker to look at. If Richy goes then it gets even more interesting.

I think Richy stays personally but I'm certain we'll go into next season with 2 CF. It's really interesting because there are 3 big name strikers available and very little competition for 2 of them. Osimhen looks like he's going to PSG but Gyokeres and Alvarez are available for the sums we could afford if we miss our main midfield targets.

Alvarez should be affordable regardless but Gyokeres is intriguing. Utd, PSG, Bayern, Madrid and City are probably out of the running. The Italian teams are busted, as are the rest of Spain. The only other teams who could afford him are Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. Arsenal have spent a fair bit, Chelsea are close to their psr limit and Liverpool have to prioritise a CB.

Basically, if we buy smart or lose out on our top options, plan B will be a CF and given how good the options are, a plan B of Gyokeres, Baena and Chiesa could actually be better than Eze and Neto.

Speculating is fun isn't it?

Happy Sunday all!
 

cliff jones

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Not that anything you said is that wrong, all players have weaknesses, but this is a bit overly dramatic

A lot of these players also showed some excellent stuff last season too. Our squad needs work, particularly up front, plus our midfielders went woefully out of form.

But people seem to forget we went from 8th to 5th with a much younger side, playing much better football.
None of it’s necessarily wrong, I ended up setting out a bit of risk register- all the bad stuff actually came to pass last season. But of course anything can change on the upside.

My concerns relate to the current playing personnel’s capacity to play the way Ange wants.

Eg, for their second yesterday, we had the comical sight of Bergvall actually just off the pitch, and Bissouma about a yard inside it when we got turned over. Both like a show off, almost instinctively play cage football, but there’s a Fkin massive hole where one or the other should have been
 

Westmorlandspur

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None of it’s necessarily wrong, I ended up setting out a bit of risk register- all the bad stuff actually came to pass last season. But of course anything can change on the upside.

My concerns relate to the current playing personnel’s capacity to play the way Ange wants.

Eg, for their second yesterday, we had the comical sight of Bergvall actually just off the pitch, and Bissouma about a yard inside it when we got turned over. Both like a show off, almost instinctively play cage football, but there’s a Fkin massive hole where one or the other should have been
Might have to play Bentancur in front of the defence. Bissouma just goes wandering. Looked such a top player at Brighton.
 

talkshowhost86

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Still some big gaps IMO which look like they won't be sorted before the season starts.

RB - Not sure what the plan is here. I don't think Spence is good enough and Emerson will be leaving so is Archie Gray the backup?

LB - Still a huge area of concern when Destiny is out. We need some cover here.

Midfield - Balance still feels all wrong for me. I remain unconvinced about both Biss and Lolo and that puts a lot of pressure on Gray and Bergvall in their first season. Plus not sure we have adequate competition for Maddison. Think we need more quality in this area.

Forwards - Still looking for that man who can beat defenders on the wing. Obviously an area we are looking at and arguably we could do with a couple in that role.

No.9 - I know there's a debate about whether we need someone here but Richy's lack of minutes pre-season doesn't bode well and we can't rely on Sonny in that role.
 

FrankSpencer

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I think we have to be thankful for the options we have. This time 2 seasons ago our squad looked in poor shape with not much coming through youth wise. It looks very different now!
 

talkshowhost86

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I think we have to be thankful for the options we have. This time 2 seasons ago our squad looked in poor shape with not much coming through youth wise. It looks very different now!
It's definitely a more exciting squad than we had under Conte (by design) and I don't think any of us expect us to solve every issue after just two summer transfer windows.

But there are definitely gaps.
 

Styopa

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It's definitely a more exciting squad than we had under Conte (by design) and I don't think any of us expect us to solve every issue after just two summer transfer windows.

But there are definitely gaps.

It’s an interesting squad. There are huge expectations for most of the young players but question marks over most of the more senior players (e.g anyone over 23 or 24). Vicario and Romero being the main exceptions.

Expectations on players like Gray, Bergvall (possibly even Moore) to make an immediate impact are high it seems. Whilst the likes of Udogie, Drag, and Sarr are still only 21/22.

It will be interesting to see what the balance is at the end of the window and how Ange manages it.
 

eddiev14

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Left back, attacking midfielder, right winger, striker.

same as the start of the window.
 
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