Who would you keep?

[wrd]

Unpopular opinion, but we should be building around Dele. Look what happened when Jose made him the focus of the attack when he joined.

As long as the foundations in defence and midfield are in place, then give him his head, let him play and he's potentially that fantastista 10 we lack.

If we do that then we need to go down the city route of putting the likes of Lo Celso out wide (as they do with Bernardo Silva) we will have to sacrifice one of our wingers which isn't a bad thing as typically they offer the same thing.

 

[BPR_U16]

I've expressed frustration at him, but honestly a change of manager right now will reset us even further. Who could we even get right now, in the middle of a pandemic, that would suddenly leap us back in time to when we were 2nd and 3rd?

Poch said this would be a painful season, this is what he meant. Because we weren't proactive in the transfer market, we've allowed our best players to leave or decline without replacing them ahead of time.

With Jose you at least have a manager with 20 years of experience of pragmatism and success (until he gets sick of us at least) rather than wiping out all of the last half decades progress by starting a completely new project.

Unfortunately the lack of ambition shown during the final period of the Poch era has come home to roost - and DL is now in a pickle. As you say Poch said it would be painful - he knew where we were at.

There is a smattering of some young decent talent within the squad, coupled with some players who's best days are behind them and some players who saw the promised land but didnt quite reach it despite the effort put in. There are though also a number of players who flatter to deceive (have the odd good match and think that will do) and others who despite all their efforts should not be in a Spurs side.

To me we are almost back to square 1, when Poch came in with his philosophy. Its rebuild time with a number of harsh decisions to be made. There needs to be an exodus of players who will not cut the mustard and questions need to be asked regarding whether the players who nearly achieved last time will be able, or inclined, to put in the hard yards again.

To my mind Jose is not the man to take us forward. His time has been and gone. We have been inept since he took over, may have sneaked some results here and there, for which he claimed credit in finding the old Dele for example, but there have been dire performances which of course are all the players fault. The football has been turgid with no apparant method of playing - the lack of strikers has been clearly shown to be a hollow justification, for even now with all players fit and in a sense a pre season to coach, there is still no game plan.

Team selections have been a joke - Jose is not our answer.

The dilemma that DL has is that money is tight as a result of Covid and he has to know now is the time to invest - but he wont.

Fans are becoming disillusioned and have found other ways to occupy their time rather than going to the match. VAR is helping that cause of disillusionment. DL has to be very careful that the stadium is actually filled next season or whenever we can return.

As a season ticket holder have to say that over the last two seasons, the number of home games that i have actually enjoyed have been few and the continuation of Jose does not make me feel thrilled.

 

[punkisback]

Maybe an unpopular opinion. Dont think bergwijn should be a regular next season.

I think he is a great squad player but we really need a quality talent in that position. A proper AMRC like countinho with flair and magic. He’s definitely an upgrade on Moura.

 

[wrd]

I think he is a great squad player but we really need a quality talent in that position. A proper AMRC like countinho with flair and magic. He’s definitely an upgrade on Moura.

I reckon we could make decent money on Moura selling to somebody like Barca.

 

[buckley]

Barca would not touch Moura with a bargepole that move is unrealistic .
The only way we could move him on for value is in a swap for a stellar player who wants out of his present club and they have little option but to make a swap deal . For the life of me I can't see any top club wanting to have Moura in their squad let alone pay big bucks for him .
One thing I have learnt over the last couple of years is that if PSG no longer want a player (Aurier and Moura ) its because they are not top level if they were any good they would still be at PSG . I feel they have taken us for mugs and we have obliged .
When you think of the young players available in this country like Aarons / Godfrey / Cantwell / Ferguson / Lamptey and so on there are many more but our managers seem to think that buying from an uber rich club a player must be good when in fact the truth is they are not good enough for them thats why they are selling them and so if we rate ourself as a club then Why would their cast offs be good enough for us ?
In the past buying young British talent has stood us in good stead since the Jol days but we seem to want to go for cast offs from the european elite .

 

[Bulletspur]

Unpopular opinion, but we should be building around Dele. Look what happened when Jose made him the focus of the attack when he joined.

As long as the foundations in defence and midfield are in place, then give him his head, let him play and he's potentially that fantastista 10 we lack.

I gave you a disagree rating for the following reasons which is totally my opinion.

Dele has scored some good and important goals for us, which if taken away would show a player that doesnt offer more than any other midfielder. His goals blind a lot to his otherwise most of the time average performance.

Case in point, do you remember that awesome worldly goal against Palace a few seasons ago? We won the game, we drooled over his wonder goal, but....... before that fans were screaming for him to be taken off as he was playing a stinker, but this was soon forgotten.

This has happened more times than people would care to admit because he was scoring goals. When he doesnt, and we need a result, it suddenly becomes obvious that he slows the game down when we a re attacking, his trick and flicks rarely works where often it concedes possession of the ball to our opponents.

To surmise, in my opinion Dele has been overhyped from day one due to his fairy tale introduction into the Premier League and England team. On current performance, he should be a squad player and not a automatic selection for 1st eleven.

Most will disagree but this is my assessment of him. So no I would not build a team around him and yes, I would sell of we had a good offer.

 

[rabbikeane]

Unpopular opinion, but we should be building around Dele. Look what happened when Jose made him the focus of the attack when he joined.

As long as the foundations in defence and midfield are in place, then give him his head, let him play and he's potentially that fantastista 10 we lack.

I don't see the place for both Son and Dele, when Son took off Dele met the wall.
They occupy so much of the same space.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I gave you a disagree rating for the following reasons which is totally my opinion.

Dele has scored some good and important goals for us, which if taken away would show a player that doesnt offer more than any other midfielder. His goals blind a lot to his otherwise most of the time average performance.

Case in point, do you remember that awesome worldly goal against Palace a few seasons ago? We won the game, we drooled over his wonder goal, but....... before that fans were screaming for him to be taken off as he was playing a stinker, but this was soon forgotten.

This has happened more times than people would care to admit because he was scoring goals. When he doesnt, and we need a result, it suddenly becomes obvious that he slows the game down when we a re attacking, his trick and flicks rarely works where often it concedes possession of the ball to our opponents.

To surmise, in my opinion Dele has been overhyped from day one due to his fairy tale introduction into the Premier League and England team. On current performance, he should be a squad player and not a automatic selection for 1st eleven.

Most will disagree but this is my assessment of him. So no I would not build a team around him and yes, I would sell of we had a good offer.

That's all fair enough really, and I think most would probably agree with you. I've always felt that if you can work out how to get the best out of him, then he's a real difference maker... He's been such a good counterpart to Kane, a perfect foil for Eriksen's technical creativity.

If there's a way to get that back, I'd want to give it a go.

 

[MB31spurs]

Keep - Lloris Gazzaniga Dier Alderweireld Sanchez Davies le Celso Lamela winks dele sessegnon Ndombele Skipp Bergwijn son Kane (Gedson)
Sell -rose KWP Aurier CCV Sissoko Moura
Release - Vorm Vertonghen
Kids to sell -marsh georgiou eyoma Tracey Sterling
Kids around the squad - parrot Tanganga Bennett Pochettino Clarke whiteman Bowen
Loan - Foyth white Walcott cirkin Austin roles

In - RB x2. CDM striker ACM
Aarons
Celik / castanga
PVH
ings/ Schlick / millik
Eze

Should only be about 10m out of pocket

 

[dbspurs]

I just think the squad is broke as a whole. No drive and weak mentality. We lack leaders and players prepared to put in a shift. Going forward we are disjointed and stilted despite an abundance of attacking quality.

The one area I believe we are truly fucked at the moment is defence. If we could i would get rid of the lot. They are either average (Sanchez, Dier, Davies, Aurier) or past it (Verts, Toby) and dont get me started on Foyth and Rose.

Even Lazarus could not raise the performance of our defence.

Jose needs to crack the whip and remind the players of their responsibilities. They are going through the motions and he needs to make them know that its no longer acceptable.

 

[daryl hannah]

I just think the squad is broke as a whole. No drive and weak mentality. We lack leaders and players prepared to put in a shift. Going forward we are disjointed and stilted despite an abundance of attacking quality.

The one area I believe we are truly fucked at the moment is defence. If we could i would get rid of the lot. They are either average (Sanchez, Dier, Davies, Aurier) or past it (Verts, Toby) and dont get me started on Foyth and Rose.

Even Lazarus could not raise the performance of our defence.

Jose needs to crack the whip and remind the players of their responsibilities. They are going through the motions and he needs to make them know that its no longer acceptable.

I think Mour is bang on - he needs time to rejuvenate the squad with fresh blood. With any luck the 'hit rate' of our transfers coming good will improve - Bergwijn/Lo Celso showing signs of this being the case. Ndombele is the most talented player, but has possibly not yet gelled. If Ndombele and Sess can break into the first team, that's at least 4 transfers that will have gone well.

We just need time.

 

[emiley heskey]

Unpopular opinion, but we should be building around Dele. Look what happened when Jose made him the focus of the attack when he joined.

As long as the foundations in defence and midfield are in place, then give him his head, let him play and he's potentially that fantastista 10 we lack.

Do you believe in Dele's all round footballing ability that he can play the number 10 role and be the fulcrum of our team going forward? Can he make through balls? Can he dribble past one or two players and shot towards goal? Can he whip the cross for kane or any of our full backs?

 

[cliff jones]

Being realistic, it’s going to take three windows to compete again...

for the opportunity about to come, I’d keep Lloris, Gazza, Davies, Sess, Dier (new contract to ensure a fee subsequently), Sissoko, GLC, TND, Gedson, Lamela, Berg, Son, Kane

In

Aarons
Burn
Gabriel

For Cdm,I’d give Skipp a good run next season- and would still like to see Foythbe tried there

 

[richard_gleeson]

Do you believe in Dele's all round footballing ability that he can play the number 10 role and be the fulcrum of our team going forward? Can he make through balls? Can he dribble past one or two players and shot towards goal? Can he whip the cross for kane or any of our full backs?

Dele is not a no10 and never will be. He is not creative. His only position is up front with Harry but not dropping deep to receive the ball, he slows everything down too much

 

[Tucker]

Getting in a good DM will make a lot of these players look a lot better. I don’t think anyone aside from Kane and maybe Son are untouchable in the squad though.

If selling someone like Dele, or Moura (both of whom I rate by the way) means we can get in a very very good DM and maybe another right back, then that would be a decent window imo.

 

[daryl hannah]

Getting in a good DM will make a lot of these players look a lot better. I don’t think anyone aside from Kane and maybe Son are untouchable in the squad though.

If selling someone like Dele, or Moura (both of whom I rate by the way) means we can get in a very very good DM and maybe another right back, then that would be a decent window imo.

Selling Dele is becoming more of an apparent need - nobody has any idea who would buy him, though - and he'd probably want to go to a CL club.

 

[Tucker]

Selling Dele is becoming more of an apparent need - nobody has any idea who would buy him, though - and he'd probably want to go to a CL club.

I disagree that it’s a need, he’s too good to sell cheaply for starters. He’s been in patchy form for the last 18 months, but who hasn’t?

 

[daryl hannah]

I disagree that it’s a need, he’s too good to sell cheaply for starters. He’s been in patchy form for the last 18 months, but who hasn’t?

Without Eriksen, he's not effective. No longer suits the style of play IMHO.

 

[Tucker]

Without Eriksen, he's not effective. No longer suits the style of play IMHO.

That’s a little hyperbolic. We don’t really have a style of play at the moment. We have had three games since the restart and played differently in every one. Before then we were having to basically start anyone who wasn’t injured and cobble together a team. We don’t really know what our team is going to play like without Eriksen going forward. They’d been playing together for years so of course they’d look better linking up and feeding off each other’s flicks etc.

Who knows how he will gel with Lo Celso and NDombele over the next season.

 

[emiley heskey]

I think both city, utd even everton will buy dele ali given his reputation and goal scoring pedigree