What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[olliec]

At some point fans of this club have to start believing in this team.

Why shouldn't we believe that we can win every game. How many games in the last 2 years can you say a team have been better than us? I'm thinking 3 maybe 4 games if that..... so hell yeah i expect us to turn up and win at City, we are not only playing better than them, we are better than them as a team.

This is different to being cocky like the Mancs, Arse* or Chelscum fans. We've nothing to be cocky about yet, but we have a lot to be happy and proud about.

All it takes is one or two players to have an off day for us to stop clicking. There are always bad patches no matter what.

 

[millsey]

I don't think we will lose another league game at WHL this season...

Yeah but 9 draws won't help....

 

[Gbspurs]

Just reading Redcafes thread on Harry Kane, actually makes me want to bang my head against the wall, the contradictory nature of the posts makes my teeth itch.

I get it kinda. Plenty of fans only watch their own team and let's face it Harry hasn't been his best against Utd. Ask Arsenal fans the same question and I bet the answer is different.

 

[RomanzoCriminale]

All it takes is one or two players to have an off day for us to stop clicking. There are always bad patches no matter what.

But that goes for all clubs doesn't it, how often are we going to come up against an 11 all on form.

We're seeing it now, Gary Neville said success breeds success, you get used to winning.

It's been a while since I've felt nervous before a game and I can't see that changing this season nor the next few if we keep hold of everyone, we're only going to get stronger and better.

Imagine if we get off to a flyer next year and keep it going.....

 

[danielneeds]

But that goes for all clubs doesn't it, how often are we going to come up against an 11 all on form.

We're seeing it now, Gary Neville said success breeds success, you get used to winning.

It's been a while since I've felt nervous before a game and I can't see that changing this season nor the next few if we keep hold of everyone, we're only going to get stronger and better.

Imagine if we get off to a flyer next year and keep it going.....

Also once you start banging in 4 goals a game every week as we have, opposition players start getting nervous. The majority of teams who went to Old Trafford in the Fergie years were already beaten in the tunnel. I'm sure I saw a Keane quote where he said he'd look at the opposition in the tunnel, and he could see the fear in their eyes.

Obviously we're not at that United level, but psychology plays a massive part in all sport.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

Also once you start banging in 4 goals a game every week as we have, opposition players start getting nervous. The majority of teams who went to Old Trafford in the Fergie years were already beaten in the tunnel. I'm sure I saw a Keane quote where he said he'd look at the opposition in the tunnel, and he could see the fear in their eyes.

Obviously we're not at that United level, but psychology plays a massive part in all sport.

Yeah it has a huge effect. Do you know what it's so huge I even feel it in FM 2017. Drawn against Barcelona in the CL knockout and in my head I've written off all but a flukey 0-0 at the Nou Camp.

It's like Liverpool during their success in the 80s, they put that This Is Anfield sign up in the tunnel and the amount of Liverpool players who have said that in that era that walking past that sign have them a boost and the amount of opposition players that said it made them cack their pants is amazing.

 

[thfc1973]

I'll only start seriously believing on a regular basis that we can win things when we can win 10 PL games on the trot on a regular basis..The fact is we aren't a team that has consistently won anywhere near that regularly, and I think you'll find clubs that win the league have more or less won around 10 games in a row at some point in their title winning season. That in itself doesn't win you anything but what it does is it shows a certain level of consistency and shows that its possible for a team to go on a long winning streak which itself proves that the team are capable of getting results when it counts.

And iirc I heard that our PL record for consecutive wins was... 6 (SIX) !!????? That's what we are on now, which is still piss poor atrocious for any club with title winning ambitions. So unless/until we can win, say, 10 games in a row I'm fairly certain (in fact absolutely certain) we wont be winning the league.

 

[Yid_Summers]

I'll only start seriously believing on a regular basis that we can win things when we can win 10 PL games on the trot on a regular basis..The fact is we aren't a team that has consistently won anywhere near that regularly, and I think you'll find clubs that win the league have more or less won around 10 games in a row at some point in their title winning season. That in itself doesn't win you anything but what it does is it shows a certain level of consistency and shows that its possible for a team to go on a long winning streak which itself proves that the team are capable of getting results when it counts.

And iirc I heard that our PL record for consecutive wins was... 6 (SIX) !!????? That's what we are on now, which is still piss poor atrocious for any club with title winning ambitions. So unless/until we can win, say, 10 games in a row I'm fairly certain (in fact absolutely certain) we wont be winning the league.

That's bollocks. Liverpool won 10 on the bounce, came 2nd. Pretty sure Leicester didn't do that last season. Don't think it's been done in a long time. 10 unbeaten is doable, 10 wins in a row, in this league. Not as easy you're making it out to be.

 

[Shadydan]

I'll only start seriously believing on a regular basis that we can win things when we can win 10 PL games on the trot on a regular basis..The fact is we aren't a team that has consistently won anywhere near that regularly, and I think you'll find clubs that win the league have more or less won around 10 games in a row at some point in their title winning season. That in itself doesn't win you anything but what it does is it shows a certain level of consistency and shows that its possible for a team to go on a long winning streak which itself proves that the team are capable of getting results when it counts.

And iirc I heard that our PL record for consecutive wins was... 6 (SIX) !!????? That's what we are on now, which is still piss poor atrocious for any club with title winning ambitions. So unless/until we can win, say, 10 games in a row I'm fairly certain (in fact absolutely certain) we wont be winning the league.

Point me out where Leicester won 10 in a row last season or even Chelsea the year before that.

 

[thfc1973]

Don't compare what I said to last years anomaly. Leicester's win was a freak....But their wins were 23 by the end of the season which means we need to win minimum 10 more games between now and the end of the season to have any chance of getting anywhere near their 81pts. CFC are already on 17 wins. They are only 6 wins off LCFC's wins tally from last year.. Are you all saying CFC wont win anymore than 6 games between now and the end of the season...?? Do me a favour!!! They have history with accumulating 6,7, 8 wins in a row and this year they proved it by winning 13on the bounce, and just cos they've won that many already it doesn't mean they wont win anymore..

What I'm saying is no way can we expect to win the title if we don't win AT LEAST 10 of our remaining games and even if we did, the chances of CFC only winning 6 of their remaining 17 games is highly unlikely!

Just look at it from a probability perspective and you will see the numbers don't add up. We don't have history of getting the numbers expected to stand a chance of winning - that's where I'm coming from.

 

[HobbitSpur]

That's bollocks. Liverpool won 10 on the bounce, came 2nd. Pretty sure Leicester didn't do that last season. Don't think it's been done in a long time. 10 unbeaten is doable, 10 wins in a row, in this league. Not as easy you're making it out to be.

Didn't we just stop Chelsea on 13 ???

 

[olliec]

I can't see us winning the league this year. Now Costa is back on side again it looks like aswell. I will be super happy with 2nd and once and for all put our demons to bed by finishing above them stupid goons!

 

[Col_M]

Chelsea being so far ahead isn't as daunting as it could be. Last year we were in the top 4 until around march when we started making up ground. I know we didn't catch them, but in doing that the players recognise that it is doable and have learned from last year.

 

[arunspurs]

Only way we have a chance of going ahead of Chelsea is if Hazard or Costa gets 2month + injury.
If they keep playing their XI & same formation, not may teams can beat them, especially when they dont play in Europe

 

[SpursDave88]

Surely the run of consecutive wins is as much a function of how the fixtures fall though...it's kind of marginally irrelevant Versus the statistic of how many wins/points you get over a season...which is what the league measures anyway

 

[dagraham]

Surely the run of consecutive wins is as much a function of how the fixtures fall though...it's kind of marginally irrelevant Versus the statistic of how many wins/points you get over a season...which is what the league measures anyway

Yeah, the consecutive wins thing is bollocks imo. We won 10 in a row I believe under Redknapp and still didn't even finish in the top three. I'm pretty sure that if a team won 8 in row, followed by a draw, then repeated that they would be winning the league. It's all about wins and generally you need about 20 to get top four and I would say most years the team winning the league would be getting 25+.

 

[ryantegan]

All we can do is create pressure by winning games. Chelsea have a cushion but it becomes tougher to maintain if someone is constantly chasing you down.

We werent given the opportunity last season as the Premier League and Sky colluded to ensure Leicester played stress free. This year I cant see that and coupled with the fact there are 6 teams seemingly fighting it out for top spot, I think there will be plenty of twists and turns still to come

 

[tommo84]

I'll only start seriously believing on a regular basis that we can win things when we can win 10 PL games on the trot on a regular basis..The fact is we aren't a team that has consistently won anywhere near that regularly, and I think you'll find clubs that win the league have more or less won around 10 games in a row at some point in their title winning season. That in itself doesn't win you anything but what it does is it shows a certain level of consistency and shows that its possible for a team to go on a long winning streak which itself proves that the team are capable of getting results when it counts.

And iirc I heard that our PL record for consecutive wins was... 6 (SIX) !!????? That's what we are on now, which is still piss poor atrocious for any club with title winning ambitions. So unless/until we can win, say, 10 games in a row I'm fairly certain (in fact absolutely certain) we wont be winning the league.

Just had a look into this and the longest winning streaks of the champions in each of the last few season:

2011 - Man United - 4
2012 - Man City - 7
2013 - Man Utd - 7
2014 - Man City - 8
2015 - Chelsea - 4
2016 - Leicester - 5

So the notion that a title winning team needs to go on a run of 10 consecutive wins is simply wrong. What Chelsea have done this season is a freak. A look at the longest 'streaks' of each title winner in those last 6 seasons actually indicated that its more crucial that when champions slip up, they get back to winning ways immediately (unfortunately exactly as Chelsea have just shown).

Your point in a later post is valid, however - title winning teams usually win 25-27 of their total league games, so we probably need to be winning 11 or 12 of our remaining 17 games to have a hope - but that's kind of a given anyway considering we're 7 points behind the leaders.

 

[Gbspurs]

Yeah, the consecutive wins thing is bollocks imo. We won 10 in a row I believe under Redknapp and still didn't even finish in the top three. I'm pretty sure that if a team won 8 in row, followed by a draw, then repeated that they would be winning the league. It's all about wins and generally you need about 20 to get top four and I would say most years the team winning the league would be getting 25+.

Presumably we didn't win 10 in a row under redknapp if our club record is 6. Maybe in all comps or unbeaten?

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Also once you start banging in 4 goals a game every week as we have, opposition players start getting nervous. The majority of teams who went to Old Trafford in the Fergie years were already beaten in the tunnel. I'm sure I saw a Keane quote where he said he'd look at the opposition in the tunnel, and he could see the fear in their eyes.

Obviously we're not at that United level, but psychology plays a massive part in all sport.

I think the reason chelsea won 13 in a row was because of exactly this. Teams thought they'd get beat so they got beat. Simple.