What's new

Werner rejoins on loan for 2024/25

mawspurs

Staff
Jun 29, 2003
35,203
18,067
We are delighted to announce an agreement for Timo Werner to rejoin us on loan from RB Leipzig for the 2024/25 season, with an option to make the deal permanent.

Signed on loan from the Bundesliga side in January, the German international forward was a regular in Ange Postecoglou's team in the second half of last season.

Source: Official Site
 

jolsnogross

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2005
3,911
5,879
Weird move. Not good enough to buy, but good enough to take that hefty salary on. They obviously think he can offer something, but I think we saw enough of his yips and weird decision making in front of goal that we'll just be muddling along with him. Maybe a decent centre forward will help get more out of his left attacking role, but I don't see it materializing.
 

ronzalo

Well-Known Member
Jul 21, 2021
284
531
Weird move. Not good enough to buy, but good enough to take that hefty salary on. They obviously think he can offer something, but I think we saw enough of his yips and weird decision making in front of goal that we'll just be muddling along with him. Maybe a decent centre forward will help get more out of his left attacking role, but I don't see it materializing.

I agree. Underwhelming start to the window.

We could have him for 16m - though clearly don’t think he’s good enough - but instead why not a) pad out the squad on the cheap with another non-homegrown player and b) block a youth team prospect from coming through?

Makes perfect sense…
 

Neon_Knight_

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2011
4,149
6,971
I agree. Underwhelming start to the window.

We could have him for 16m - though clearly don’t think he’s good enough - but instead why not a) pad out the squad on the cheap with another non-homegrown player and b) block a youth team prospect from coming through?

Makes perfect sense…
We've negotiatied a lower option to buy as well as renewing the loan. Buying him now at the previously agreed £16m feel would simply mean paying more.
 

doom

Well-Known Member
Dec 13, 2003
2,387
1,366
It's a good move considering the finances and we get to see if he can improve. There is a great player in there somewhere but he still looks low on confidence.
 

yid-down-under

Well-Known Member
Sep 21, 2003
3,209
4,097
Makes sense as lw not a priority imo

just as long as the coin goes where we need to strengthen I’m cool with it

welcome back timo xx
 

jay2040

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
2,801
4,421
I think that's a great deal as we can still part ways after a year whilst also knowing that he will hit ground running!
 

FloridaSpur

Well-Known Member
Jun 21, 2021
1,174
2,928
Weird move. Not good enough to buy, but good enough to take that hefty salary on. They obviously think he can offer something, but I think we saw enough of his yips and weird decision making in front of goal that we'll just be muddling along with him. Maybe a decent centre forward will help get more out of his left attacking role, but I don't see it materializing.

"Not good enough to buy"

If RB are paying part of his salary, and we can keep him as a loan next season what's the risk? What "hefty" salary is he on?

He started just ten games, with two goals and three assists, without a pre-season. Brennan scored five goals and ten assists in thirty five games and cost us 45.7 million. Think about that.

The only thing with the "yips" is your rush to judgement on the player without looking at any facts.
 

jolsnogross

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2005
3,911
5,879
"Not good enough to buy"

If RB are paying part of his salary, and we can keep him as a loan next season what's the risk? What "hefty" salary is he on?

He started just ten games, with two goals and three assists, without a pre-season. Brennan scored five goals and ten assists in thirty five games and cost us 45.7 million. Think about that.

The only thing with the "yips" is your rush to judgement on the player without looking at any facts.
Reports I've seen in regular sports media say we're paying his full salary and have paid a loan fee.

His salary is reported on multiple websites as 165k a week, or 8.5M pounds a year. In the top 5 of the spurs squad.

Why are you saying "if" they are paying part of his salary? With your big focus on facts. Are you another one of these Levy fan boys who thinks we pull the selling club's pants down on every deal?

Hopefully he'll do alright, but in his 10 or so games with us I wasn't that impressed and find his stats misleading relative to how he plays. (That involves actually watching matches rather than checking stats). And he clearly is an astonishing outlier for howling misses throughout his full PL career.
 

Henry Percy

Well-Known Member
Dec 7, 2006
404
352
I thought he was really coming good and getting more familiar with the system and his role in it before his injury. We would have been better if we had him those last several games.

He is quick, experienced, knows the system, stretches the opposition, frees up space elsewhere. I think we need to see how he goes next season after he has had a full pre season. Plus personality wise he seems like a genuinely nice guy. Which I think is really important when you're trying to build a cohesive team. TBH I really thought this was a no brainer and would have been surprised if we didn't keep him.

I know his flaws but a loan spell for 12 more months means we can see how he goes at low risk, we have so many positions we need to either upgrade this summer; Striker and a No. 6 or have high quality back ups (both fullbacks, no. 10 LCB and right wing).
 

Chedozie

Well-Known Member
May 19, 2005
2,674
2,775
Weird move. Not good enough to buy, but good enough to take that hefty salary on. They obviously think he can offer something, but I think we saw enough of his yips and weird decision making in front of goal that we'll just be muddling along with him. Maybe a decent centre forward will help get more out of his left attacking role, but I don't see it materializing.
Maybe “they” think that Moore, Donely, Lankshear and Scarlett are still a year away and Werner can fill a gap until then, he’s an experienced player, decent guy too, the loan fee for him can’t be more than €5 million.

For Spurs it’s peanuts.
 

HotspurResi

Active Member
May 23, 2011
311
241
Good squad player, considering we will be playing (hopefully) 50 plus games next season.

He’s not been selected for German Squad for Euro 2024 so has time to work on his shooting drills all summer !!
 

Neon_Knight_

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2011
4,149
6,971
Maybe “they” think that Moore, Donely, Lankshear and Scarlett are still a year away and Werner can fill a gap until then, he’s an experienced player, decent guy too, the loan fee for him can’t be more than €5 million.

For Spurs it’s peanuts.
No loan fee has been reported. I think this is a case of RB Leipzig being content with getting his full wages of the books. If he was on significantly lower wages, I imagine they'd either keep him as a rotation player or demand a loan fee.
 

TonyK

Well-Known Member
Aug 13, 2004
1,178
2,230
I can see that this is probably a decent enough deal considering Timo did make a positive impact on loan last season. But I hope that it isn’t a sign that Levy is still trying to do things on the cheap despite our record revenues!!
 

SirHarryHotspur

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2017
5,643
8,568
I can see that this is probably a decent enough deal considering Timo did make a positive impact on loan last season. But I hope that it isn’t a sign that Levy is still trying to do things on the cheap despite our record revenues!!
Does the £86.8 million loss in the last accounts not count or only the revenue ?
Ange only gets players he wants , clearly stated by him in an interview , he takes full responsibility for results and signings ,if Werner flops down to Ange nobody else.

 

SirHarryHotspur

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2017
5,643
8,568
Has a signing ever been met with such dismay by so many , one of the key figures in this is Lange , a quote from him in January.

Lange told reporters: “I think Timo is an offensive player who has massive experience from top level football, being in the Bundesliga, the Premier League and the Champions League and of course with the German national team.

“He's also a player who for most of his career has played in a style that's not too dissimilar to ours which means his adaptation period could be relatively short and it's been good to see him already affecting games quite early on."


And from Ange last week in Melbourne, reference to "other guys" pretty sure that is Lange & Munn , I therefore proclaim Levy innocent in this deal :)

“I think from our perspective, there’s a deadline there,” Postecoglou told reporters in Melbourne following a friendly against Newcastle United.

“Again, a lot of that will depend on the negotiations between the clubs and how Timo feels. From my perspective, I’m comfortable with that situation, and I’ll let the other guys steer it to see what kind of outcome there is.”


Henry IV, Part 1
 

Freddie

Well-Known Member
Jan 29, 2004
2,105
4,370
Weird move. Not good enough to buy, but good enough to take that hefty salary on. They obviously think he can offer something, but I think we saw enough of his yips and weird decision making in front of goal that we'll just be muddling along with him. Maybe a decent centre forward will help get more out of his left attacking role, but I don't see it materializing.
Not sure why this got so many negs!

He's fine but we keep hoping players will come good rather than expecting it. He's not managed to regain his confidence at Chelsea, going home to Leipzig or last season with us. I get we can't splurge on numerous big signings but an attacker should be something we look at to elevate us.

People were really down on us signing KWP, on what would have been a fairly modest fee, even though he's a back up right back, but seem to be happy to sign Werner on big wages even though he's likely to start many more games. Both are pretty average.
 

Springerding

Well-Known Member
Nov 26, 2014
1,115
1,940
Ok with this, he's rapid, Need Romero to look up and knock it over to Werner, he gets in good positions and looks for the pass to run on to but isn't found very often.
 

beuller

Well-Known Member
May 10, 2005
1,535
2,354
Postecoglou has said quite a few time now that we’ve been most disappointing in the forward positions. Johnson, kulusevski, Son, Richarlison and Maddison have all struggled at times. I’d assumed big changes were afoot.

I can’t see Johnson and Maddison being moved on after a single season, Son will be staying and he seems to like Kulusevski.

Which is why this seems a bit weird. Feels like we will end up with the same players + potentially an extra centre forward. Are we expecting dramatically different results….?
 
Top