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bern

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Feb 18, 2005
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After our recent run of games, does your support for the lillywhites wain?. Do you feel like just throwing your hands in despair and shout " I`am not supporting this crap team anymore?". Then after a few hours contemplating what you have said,come sulking back hoping no one had seen you. You go out hoping that your mates arent ready to pounce with their piss taking. You are afraid to even show your face with the shirt on. Well I`am ashamed to say I have felt all of these emotions. I even gave my son my old SPURS shirt to wear but I am ready to grab it out of his hands when we win our first game. Anyone else feel the same?.:violin:
 

mrbrightside73

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May 14, 2005
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Ive got a 3 year old lad,i was determined to make him a Tottenham fan,but now,as long as its not Arsenal,he can supports whomever he wants,i refuse to inflict a lifetime of misery on him.
 

speccy_spur

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Aug 2, 2005
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I would support Spurs even if they played in the Conference, or even lower. If you do not feel the same leave now.
 

Reece

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May 27, 2005
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^^ yep .. will still support spurs no matter what but its just so shit being in this situation.
 

mrbrightside73

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Im not saying ill stop supporting spurs,i love them til the day i die,wether in the prem or some Tesco league played on a pub car park.It hurts though.
 

Turbo

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My support for the club dropped with the disgracefull way they treated Jol. My support for the team dropped when the players stopped giving their all for the cause and started to play like 11 individuals (of course with a few exceptions).

However...

My love for the club will never stop and I think that's where fans get on their high horse with all this "support through think and thin". I'll be Spurs till i die BUT I do have the right to show less committment when the board and players do likewise.
 

DC_Boy

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May 20, 2005
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my support for the club hasn't dwindled one iota - if anything it burns fiercer than ever

I love this club, it's a big part of my life - I just hope I don't lose it at work on monday cos I swear I ain't in the mood for 'banter'

as I said weks ago if we do relegated so be it - i still don't think it'll happen but it's obviously getting very likely now - however in many ways it may help the club - it may also inflict unbelieveable damage - who knows -that's the beauty and fear of living

last time we got relegated we came back stronger - but we very nearly failed to return at the first time of asking - had we failed, who knows what would have happened

I remember us beating Villa to win our first lge cup in 71 - great day at wembley - what was somewhat strange was that villa were div 3 - but 10 years later they were champions of England - the next year champions of Europe - life is strange
 

AngerManagement

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May 15, 2004
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My support for the club dropped with the disgracefull way they treated Jol. My support for the team dropped when the players stopped giving their all for the cause and started to play like 11 individuals (of course with a few exceptions).

However...

My love for the club will never stop and I think that's where fans get on their high horse with all this "support through think and thin". I'll be Spurs till i die BUT I do have the right to show less committment when the board and players do likewise.


That makes no sense to me, the supporter loves the club, the actions of players employed by the club or people who happen to own it at any given time are one thing but the club transends these things.

I would suggest that someone whos love for the CLUB lowers just because of the action of the current staff and or owners never really were true fans in the first place.

It is not the club that did these things, its the people who are in control or in the shirt currently. I understand having less support for those people if you feel that way but to lose support for the club is to never really had it in the first place (fair weather so to speak)

Im not getting on mu high horse its just what I believe.
 

catesy2018

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Oct 5, 2004
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I'll always support Tottenham, no matter what. Whats the point of following a team in just the good times, its the bad times that gives the club character.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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After our recent run of games, does your support for the lillywhites wain?


NO!
 

Lanh

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Jan 4, 2006
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Im giving up football at the end of the season. It's been a long time now that I have been trying to recover my love of the game without success.

I'll always look out for the Spurs and CSKA Moscow scores, I'll still catch the occasional match but no more dedicated than that I'm afraid. It's not just our situation, it's the whole game and the rot for me started last summer, not this one just gone or this season.

I'm going back to my first sporting love, tennis.

Oh and for those who really do believe this is a fair weather thing, CSKA Moscow, who come a fraction under Spurs in my footballing loyalties are currently sitting in second place in the Russian Premier League after a 2-1 away victory over Khimki, thanks to goals from Berezoutski and Mamaev, so it really has nothing to do with how well or how poorly my teams are doing, it's just the game in general.
 

Turbo

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That makes no sense to me, the supporter loves the club, the actions of players employed by the club or people who happen to own it at any given time are one thing but the club transends these things.

I would suggest that someone whos love for the CLUB lowers just because of the action of the current staff and or owners never really were true fans in the first place.

It is not the club that did these things, its the people who are in control or in the shirt currently. I understand having less support for those people if you feel that way but to lose support for the club is to never really had it in the first place (fair weather so to speak)

Im not getting on mu high horse its just what I believe.

funnily enough i believe that a frigging great big part of the club is the board (responsible for the sacking of Jol) and the players (who are not standing up and being counted) and that is where my support for the club wains. It's a little like a family member causing you pain, you still love them but sometimes feel like you can't be bothered with them.
 

AngerManagement

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funnily enough i believe that a frigging great big part of the club is the board (responsible for the sacking of Jol) and the players (who are not standing up and being counted) and that is where my support for the club wains. It's a little like a family member causing you pain, you still love them but sometimes feel like you can't be bothered with them.

I think your looking at it in the wrong way, the club is much bigger and much more then any one or group of players who happen to play for it at one time and more even then the people who happen to own it at any given moment.

They have an effect on the club and are responcible for its performance at the current time, but the club itself means much more.

The club is all the emotions you have had toward football since you were a little boy, the club is the highs and the lows over x amount of years, the club is the times shared with your dad and with your grandad talking about YOUR club and something you share as a family.

Thats if your roots to a club are that deep and you truely have a love for the club.

If your the type of supporter who once so GAzza playing or Klinsmann diving after a goal or even BErbavtov showing what he can do and you started supporting SPurs based on any given player then I suppose I can see how a simple run of bad games or ill efforts/decisions/performances from some current personal could make your support evapourate.

To me though this can never happen, yes I can dislike some players, yes I can want staff out or be frustrated with what they do, but no that can not have any effect on my love of the club itself.

And I really cant see how the owners and or current players can be considered a BIG part of the club, after all if they were gone tomorrow a year or two down the line they would mean next to nothing to the club.

Becoming a big part of this club is not something so easily achieved, it is a compartively select group of people and it takes a lot to become a big part of this club, rather then just being a big part of its current situation I mean.
 

Kendall

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I think those with wavering support are glory hunters and shy away from things when it doesn't go well.

I've grown up having the piss ripped out of me for being spurs. I'm 23 so all I've ever really known is mediocrity and it's painful now to see us regressing to that, despite spending multi millions on players.

One thing I will say is that I watch this spurs side and I have no connection with ANY of the players. They just don't do it for me, there are no characters, nobody who really seems to love wearing that shirt in the way that the ginolas, the keanes and the defoes did.
 

yiddobrett

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Mar 18, 2005
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I'll support Spurs until my dying day, no matter what. But I've never felt this deflated as I do right now about the team. I feel so unemotional, which is very strange for me.
 

Lanh

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Jan 4, 2006
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I think those with wavering support are glory hunters and shy away from things when it doesn't go well.
Fine, I'm a glory hunter that is why I have supported us since 86/87 through the absolute shite that was the majority of that whole time. :lol:

I'm just sick of football mate, I wanted to be excited by the CC win, I wanted to be excited by the success of CSKA, I want to be excited now as the Russian league is very tight behind Rubin, and a couple of seasons ago I would have been.

Just lost my love for football mate, plain and simple as that.
 

AngerManagement

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Fine, I'm a glory hunter that is why I have supported us since 86/87 through the absolute shite that was the majority of that whole time. :lol:

I'm just sick of football mate, I wanted to be excited by the CC win, I wanted to be excited by the success of CSKA, I want to be excited now as the Russian league is very tight behind Rubin, and a couple of seasons ago I would have been.

Just lost my love for football mate, plain and simple as that.

Your probably best of not watching football for a while then, take a total break from it and see if rekindle your love somewhere down the line.

Maybe not posting on football releated websites would help you get the space you need from it.

I know what your saying, I too have lost love with football. I never watch any games other Spurs ones where as when I was young I couldnt get enough of football in any shape and form.

I think it comes from no longer player myself, an over exposure to football thanks to skys coverage, the changing dynamic what with the CL and the way it has become elitest, same clubs wining same things etc (not to mention the cost of watching) and maybe even getting older and other things becoming important in your life.

BUt my love for Spurs is a strong as ever, that I am sure will never change, they are in my blood.
 

Kendall

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Feb 8, 2007
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Fine, I'm a glory hunter that is why I have supported us since 86/87 through the absolute shite that was the majority of that whole time. :lol:

I'm just sick of football mate, I wanted to be excited by the CC win, I wanted to be excited by the success of CSKA, I want to be excited now as the Russian league is very tight behind Rubin, and a couple of seasons ago I would have been.

Just lost my love for football mate, plain and simple as that.

I can understand the lost love for football, but did you say this when we were winning? why has it only come out when we're losing? that's my point.

I used to go out with a Carlisle fan, a club that went down to the conference not long ago and has never been higher than league one in her lifetime and we used to go to games. I saw those fans getting behind their mediocre piece of shit team that would never bring them a credible cup win and will probably never make it to the prem. Did it matter? did it fuck! they supported that team through thick and thin, the lowest of the low and we're not talking the mid table premiership medicority we moan about, we're talking conference football. The notion that a fan's support would wane because results weren't going well was just beyond comprehension and it makes me embarrased of our own support when they talk this way.

If Carlisle fans can get behind their side when they're struggling to make the conference playoffs, why can't we get behind ours whilst we're still in the premiership?
 

Lanh

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Jan 4, 2006
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Your probably best of not watching football for a while then, take a total break from it and see if rekindle your love somewhere down the line.
I did over the summer, whereas normally I'd have been an avid watcher of the Euro's I gave them no more than a cursory glance.
...even getting older and other things becoming important in your life.
Quite possibly.
I can understand the lost love for football, but did you say this when we were winning? why has it only come out when we're losing? that's my point.
It came out after we beat Inter Milan in the last pre-season actually, while Jol was still in charge. That's when I first felt disenchanted with football and voiced my concerns to football following friends in the real world, after one of our best finishes to a season in many, many years and a wonderful pre-season, so yes!
The notion that a fan's support would wane because results weren't going well was just beyond comprehension and it makes me embarrased of our own support when they talk this way.
You miss my point completely. It's not just Spurs, it's football in it's entirety. As I said I also follow CSKA Moscow and they are doing very well indeed thank you very much, my local "park" team is also doing well in third place in their league, it's fuck all to do with results, it's to do with the "game".

Football was always my second love sporting wise, third actually if we include F1 as a sport, though I'm not sure I would call F1 a sport, behind tennis. Spurs, CSKA Moscow and some way behind, Mers AC (French Amateur side), are the teams I have followed for many years through good times and through bad times so this "you're only saying this because results aren't going their way" for ONE of those teams is a huge leap of faith, CSKA second in their league, Mers AC are unbeaten this season also, so give the "fair weather fan" bullshit a rest will ya mate, if it was about that then I'd simply drop Spurs and focus on CSKA.

I just can't be arsed with football anymore, really, and yes, I'll be saying it at the end of this season even if Spurs win all the cups we're after and finish in the top 6 too. The results really are irrelevant at this stage, I just don't feel it anymore.
 
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