Viktor Gyökeres

[Neon_Knight_]

Is this guy really that good? I've seen him for the national team and he looks dogshit.

43 goals & 15 assists in 50 games in all competitions last season, but that's in Portuguese comps and Europa League. Before that, he spent three seasons in the Championship (Coventry & Swansea), racking up 45 goals & 18 assists in 131 games.

Realistically, his goal contribution stats would be significantly lower in the Premier League than Portugal / Championship. Then there's the risk that his impressive form last season was a purple patch, as he produced almost as many goal contributions (58) as in the previous three seasons combined (63). Personally, I think he needs to continue that form for another season to attract serious interest from Europe's elite or command a huge transfer fee (£80m has been mentioned). For context, his stats in the Championship were very similar to Rasiak's...and he's widely considered to be one our worst signings of the Premier League era.

 

[JonnySpurs]

I like Gyokeres a lot but my personal opinion is that he is a bigger risk than Solanke would be

 

[highpressmess]

I'm sure it would have come up already, but just in case is there a chance he count as homegrown?

Born June 4th 1998 and signed for Brighton on Jan 1st 2018, if that helps

 

[Grim54]

I'm sure it would have come up already, but just in case is there a chance he count as homegrown?

Born June 4th 1998 and signed for Brighton on Jan 1st 2018, if that helps

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No.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I like Gyokeres a lot but my personal opinion is that he is a bigger risk than Solanke would be

Many agree with you. Wonder what the fee would be.
He's the more exotic exciting foreign league option and his profile looks good but then again Solanke's prem proven more or less and his profile suits really well also.

If the price isn't too high I probably would mabye lean towards Solanke but either would be about as good as we can get in the market right now for our budget I think.

 

[Cel]

Many agree with you. Wonder what the fee would be.
He's the more exotic exciting foreign league option and his profile looks good but then again Solanke's prem proven more or less and his profile suits really well also.

If the price isn't too high I probably would mabye lean towards Solanke but either would be about as good as we can get in the market right now for our budget I think.

He's not really exotic foreign league though, it's a in name only thing. He's almost the same career path, a striker that didn't break through at a prem team, and dropped down a division to make a name.
It'd been interesting if solanke got a move from the championship to a top heavy Portugal league, and he was signed by Bournemouth what would have happened. I think they are likely very similar

 

[SpartanSpur]

If Richy's Saudi move is potentially back on, I'd imagine there's a good chance we'd be able to afford Gyokeres. I suspect he is the top target that Solanke is the fallback on. Would love it to be Isak or Osimhen but I think they are out of our reach even with this potential sale.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

If we're serious about challenging for silverware, we need our targets to be better than Gyokeres. Our track record for buying strikers in recent times, ain't that impressive.

 

[Moorpheus19]

If we're serious about challenging for silverware, we need our targets to be better than Gyokeres. Our track record for buying strikers in recent times, ain't that impressive.

Who do you have in mind?

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Who do you have in mind?

We were spoilt for so long with Kane, whereby we have him as the benchmark which realistically no one else is going to get anywhere near. There are very few top strikers in the world at the moment, so finding one who is going to give us what we want is a near impossibility. I just think we should try for the very best that is available and I'm not convinced Gyokeres is that man.

I don't have any one in mind, as no one is jumping off the page .

 

[Chirpystheman]

If we sell Richy then we could change tack and buy him if hes going to cost 80m for example thats Richy +20m looking at the maths. There is no reason why we couldnt sign him and solanke. If we can negotiate the fee on solanke down slightly by including some players which has been hinted at by ITK as they like some of ours. Then that would allow son to be used only on the left. Meaning no need for Eze. So if we signed him solanke and neto looking at 180m out with 60m being recouped for richy. Would take us under 150m Net which is what we spent last summer. That would transform our forward line. Giving us werner son for the left maddison Kulu for the 10 role neto johnson for the right and allow us to ease Gyokeres in and allow him to adapt. But then that makes too much sense. That's not accounting for minutes for donley devine moore bergval if they are kept around for 1st team minutes in europa and league

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

If we sell Richy then we could change tack and buy him if hes going to cost 80m for example thats Richy +20m looking at the maths. There is no reason why we couldnt sign him and solanke. If we can negotiate the fee on solanke down slightly by including some players which has been hinted at by ITK as they like some of ours. Then that would allow son to be used only on the left. Meaning no need for Eze. So if we signed him solanke and neto looking at 180m out with 60m being recouped for richy. Would take us under 150m Net which is what we spent last summer. That would transform our forward line. Giving us werner son for the left maddison Kulu for the 10 role neto johnson for the right and allow us to ease Gyokeres in and allow him to adapt. But then that makes too much sense. That's not accounting for minutes for donley devine moore bergval if they are kept around for 1st team minutes in europa and league

80m is an outrageous price, I don't think anyone is paying that.

He's playing in the Portuguese league, and one good season in it at that.

Richarlison is (was) Brazils number 9, has had very effective contributions in the PL from left wing.

He's never played 40 games as a CF, but if he did I'd be quietly confident he'd be banging them in.

If we are selling Richarlison for 60m (which is a premium), I don't see in what world we would pay more for Gyokeres.

Can Gyokeres even play in the PL? So many strikers out there who have done well in the championship and then struggled at PL level.

For 80m I'd be expecting proven PL. Guirassy went to Dortmund for 18m euros off the back of a 30 goal season in Germany. Dobvyk 25 goals in Spain goes for 30m euros. Even Alvarez, who is seen to be the biggest forward prospect in the world went for a similar price (and massively overpaid in my book) to what they want for Gyokeres.

It's silly money and we shouldn't be going near him unless they drop his price by over 30% imo.

I'm sure we're interested, but it'd have to be at a reasonable price.

 

[fecka]

80m is an outrageous price, I don't think anyone is paying that.

He's playing in the Portuguese league, and one good season in it at that.

Richarlison is (was) Brazils number 9, has had very effective contributions in the PL from left wing.

He's never played 40 games as a CF, but if he did I'd be quietly confident he'd be banging them in.

If we are selling Richarlison for 60m (which is a premium), I don't see in what world we would pay more for Gyokeres.

Can Gyokeres even play in the PL? So many strikers out there who have done well in the championship and then struggled at PL level.

For 80m I'd be expecting proven PL. Guirassy went to Dortmund for 18m euros off the back of a 30 goal season in Germany. Dobvyk 25 goals in Spain goes for 30m euros. Even Alvarez, who is seen to be the biggest forward prospect in the world went for a similar price (and massively overpaid in my book) to what they want for Gyokeres.

It's silly money and we shouldn't be going near him unless they drop his price by over 30% imo.

I'm sure we're interested, but it'd have to be at a reasonable price.

Guirassy and Dovbyk both had release clauses as far as I know. If they didn't, I'm fairly certain they'd easily be going for +50m.
Alvarez went for similar money as Gyökeres would after a few seasons with 30 G/A in 67 appearances, many of them as a sub. Highly impressive but not sensational. Alvarez is also 24, two years younger than Gyökeres, so hardly the biggest forward prospect in the world. It would be the same as calling Porro a prospect.

By all accounts, he'll go for less than 80m as well. Not that it matters as it seems like we're going for Solanke which I don't think is a bad move at all. Very similar player to Gyökeres but has done it in the PL and passes the eye test.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Guirassy and Dovbyk both had release clauses as far as I know. If they didn't, I'm fairly certain they'd easily be going for +50m.
Alvarez went for similar money as Gyökeres would after a few seasons with 30 G/A in 67 appearances, many of them as a sub. Highly impressive but not sensational. Alvarez is also 24, two years younger than Gyökeres, so hardly the biggest forward prospect in the world. It would be the same as calling Porro a prospect.

By all accounts, he'll go for less than 80m as well. Not that it matters as it seems like we're going for Solanke which I don't think is a bad move at all. Very similar player to Gyökeres but has done it in the PL and passes the eye test.

I think I'm still living in the past, it used to be a players prime was around 27. There is (still) massive hype around Alvarez hence the price imo. He's far from the finished product in my book.

Alvarez has done it in the PL though, which adds a lot of value.

Agree with your last paragraph.

 

[fecka]

I think I'm still living in the past, it used to be a players prime was around 27. There is (still) massive hype around Alvarez hence the price imo. He's far from the finished product in my book.

Alvarez has done it in the PL though, which adds a lot of value.

Agree with your last paragraph.

As you say, the PL and the fact he's played under Guardiola add to his value. He's a well-educated player who will probably grow further, but in my world, there's a stage or two in between being a prospect and in your prime. I rate Alvarez but feel that Atletico have vastly overpaid, as they did with Felix.

 

[Chirpystheman]

80m is an outrageous price, I don't think anyone is paying that.

He's playing in the Portuguese league, and one good season in it at that.

Richarlison is (was) Brazils number 9, has had very effective contributions in the PL from left wing.

He's never played 40 games as a CF, but if he did I'd be quietly confident he'd be banging them in.

If we are selling Richarlison for 60m (which is a premium), I don't see in what world we would pay more for Gyokeres.

Can Gyokeres even play in the PL? So many strikers out there who have done well in the championship and then struggled at PL level.

For 80m I'd be expecting proven PL. Guirassy went to Dortmund for 18m euros off the back of a 30 goal season in Germany. Dobvyk 25 goals in Spain goes for 30m euros. Even Alvarez, who is seen to be the biggest forward prospect in the world went for a similar price (and massively overpaid in my book) to what they want for Gyokeres.

It's silly money and we shouldn't be going near him unless they drop his price by over 30% imo.

I'm sure we're interested, but it'd have to be at a reasonable price.

I only said 80m as thats the price being quoted. Id argue he proved he could play in england when he had 2 decent seasons in a coventry side in the championship. The point more remains if we are selling Richy we should be buying 2 strikers. Not 1. As we are then in exactly the same boat as we are now. Which is with a front line that is not sufficient for the amount of games we have