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VALDES escapes a ban.

Tucker

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Ian Darke couldn't stop wanging on about it at the time, nothing incident for me.

Ian Darke is quite possibly the worst commentator around. He's so annoying. And his desperate attempts to make something out of that incident on Saturday night underlined just what a terrible job he does for me.

I know I must sound like a stuck record on here sometimes, but football coverage on television really is at a terrible standard. It's expensive for us, but they put very little effort into it, it's incredibly lazy production. Punditry is dumbed down, and commentary is cliched and full of pointless facts and statistics.
 

Gbspurs

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Ian Darke is quite possibly the worst commentator around. He's so annoying. And his desperate attempts to make something out of that incident on Saturday night underlined just what a terrible job he does for me.

I know I must sound like a stuck record on here sometimes, but football coverage on television really is at a terrible standard. It's expensive for us, but they put very little effort into it, it's incredibly lazy production. Punditry is dumbed down, and commentary is cliched and full of pointless facts and statistics.

Generally i like Darke. Top Boxing commentator a good voice for football but like you say he gets a bit carried away. Does Alan Parry still commentate?
 

Bulletspur

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I dont give a shit about their position in the league he should have been banned. It was because of retrospective bans at the end of last season to both Dele and Dembele why we lost the title imo
 

LeSoupeKitchen

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I dont give a shit about their position in the league he should have been banned. It was because of retrospective bans at the end of last season to both Dele and Dembele why we lost the title imo

Alli full on punched someone and Dembele went for the eyes - very different to the Valdes incident. I know in the letter of the law blah blah blah.....
 

Neon_Knight_

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Ian Darke couldn't stop wanging on about it at the time, nothing incident for me.

Striking someone in the face (once, let alone twice in quick succession) is violent conduct and warrants a minimum of a three match ban. I don't see how there are any grounds to even debate this...it doesn't matter how much force there was in the contact or how little the victim makes of it. To not punish such an incident sets an awful precedent and effectively condones the behaviour. It's quite simply embarrassing that the FA has overlooked it, with such condemning footage available and the country's most renowned ref stating that it was a red car offence.

If you are happy to see such "nothing incidents" going on in football, perhaps you should be watching boxing instead.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Ian Darke is quite possibly the worst commentator around. He's so annoying. And his desperate attempts to make something out of that incident on Saturday night underlined just what a terrible job he does for me.

I know I must sound like a stuck record on here sometimes, but football coverage on television really is at a terrible standard. It's expensive for us, but they put very little effort into it, it's incredibly lazy production. Punditry is dumbed down, and commentary is cliched and full of pointless facts and statistics.

I fail to see how your opinion of a commentator has any relevance to the fact that blatant violent conduct went unpunished. Do you want the media to cover up off-the-ball incidents? The FA rarely punishes anything retrospectively, unless it is a TV game and the media makes a big deal out of it, so if anything more coverage is needed to help eradicate senseless violence from sport.
 

fridgemagnet

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TBH i'm not outraged by it, i'm pleased Ali didn't go down like he'd be shot and it's not like Valdes leathered him with an Archie slap*, all i'm piffed about is consistency, i don't even mind a ref saying he genuinely didn't see it but if he didn't then there shouldn't be any wriggle room when handing out retrospective action.

Incidents like the Jack Rodwell one on other hand should have been able to have retrospective action taken as well as any action the ref took IMO. The tendency to hide behind the match referees final decision and bottle it needs sorting out too.

Also think rather than have the 5th officials on the goal line they should have 4 lino's IMHO

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Tucker

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Striking someone in the face (once, let alone twice in quick succession) is violent conduct and warrants a minimum of a three match ban. I don't see how there are any grounds to even debate this...it doesn't matter how much force there was in the contact or how little the victim makes of it. To not punish such an incident sets an awful precedent and effectively condones the behaviour. It's quite simply embarrassing that the FA has overlooked it, with such condemning footage available and the country's most renowned ref stating that it was a red car offence.

If you are happy to see such "nothing incidents" going on in football, perhaps you should be watching boxing instead.

He barely touched him. If you think this is akin to a boxing match, maybe you need to toughen up a little bit, kid.

I fail to see how your opinion of a commentator has any relevance to the fact that blatant violent conduct went unpunished. Do you want the media to cover up off-the-ball incidents? The FA rarely punishes anything retrospectively, unless it is a TV game and the media makes a big deal out of it, so if anything more coverage is needed to help eradicate senseless violence from sport.

Is Ian Darke your dad?
 

Adam456

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He already has to live up north and play for Borough

That's punishment enough. No need to be vindictive
 

Neon_Knight_

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He barely touched him. If you think this is akin to a boxing match, maybe you need to toughen up a little bit, kid.
I'd be interested to see where in the rules of football it states "you can't strike someone in the face...unless it isn't very hard." I never said it was like watching boxing. I don't want to see mindless and unwarranted aggression in football. If you do, you are clearly watching the wrong sport.


Is Ian Darke your dad?
I don't even know who Ian Darke is to be honest. My point is that even if he's the worst commentator ever, that doesn't change what happened on the pitch.
 

Tucker

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I'd be interested to see where in the rules of football it states "you can't strike someone in the face...unless it isn't very hard." I never said it was like watching boxing. I don't want to see mindless and unwarranted aggression in football. If you do, you are clearly watching the wrong sport.



I don't even know who Ian Darke is to be honest. My point is that even if he's the worst commentator ever, that doesn't change what happened on the pitch.

You're getting very het up over a nothing incident. It was a powder puff slap to the face. It wasn't a "violent incident" and our players and coaches didn't complain about it.

Frankly, it's not worth getting annoyed about, and nobody at Spurs cares about it, least of all the player involved.

So build a bridge, and get over it.
 

TheBlueRooster

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Not bothered now but fuming at the time. It was a penalty and a sending off.
Maybe a penalty for the foul on Dele before the Valdes incident, but you don't get a penalty for argy bargy off the ball.
Yes you do a foul in he penalty area is a foul regardless where the ball is. If I recall Lehman did it to Keane after the ball was cleared and a penalty was given. Can't remember if he was sent off.
 
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