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Underwhelmed anyone?

Kendall

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I fucking chose this club, my dad wanted me to support Man United.

Worst decision ever and now I can't change it.
 

Arnoldtoo

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May 18, 2006
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More gutted. We are going nowhere as a club. We might have ensured we stay up this season but we've similarly put our development back for next season and beyond by such a short termist approach.

If only there was another chance to buy a player or two before next season starts.

Be realistic - our primary, our only, aim this season is to stay in the Premiership. Once that has been achieved we can look at what improvements are needed to move forwards, and try to get them in the summer, when a number of players will undoubtedly move on.
 

Reg

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going backwards as far as I'm concerned. chimbonda and keane and to a certain extent defoe. Cudacini is no more than a stop gap. Palacios was a good signing but once again we have failed to address the left side!

Chimbonda, Keane & Defoe all were in the squad when we finished 5th two seasons running. I thought everyone wanted to go back to those times!
 

Reg

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Not really underwhelmed however do wonder if we have actually improved the squad in the last year! Unless we sign Carrick & Berbatov I dont want us to sign anymore of our former players!

These "former players" were in the squad for our 5th place finishes! You wonder what happened to the team but don't want to resign them?
 

Dan Ashcroft

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If only there was another chance to buy a player or two before next season starts.

Be realistic - our primary, our only, aim this season is to stay in the Premiership. Once that has been achieved we can look at what improvements are needed to move forwards, and try to get them in the summer, when a number of players will undoubtedly move on.

But we didn't bring in high calibre players to attract high calibre players. We've also blown a lot of our budget

We've spent around £50m this window! You'd hope we'd've bought at least one great player out of that. Or a DM and a LM. Arshavin, Inler and Adriano would have only cost about £40m.
 

Reg

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Dec 5, 2006
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More gutted. We are going nowhere as a club. We might have ensured we stay up this season but we've similarly put our development back for next season and beyond by such a short termist approach.

We now have practically all the 5th place finishers back. So they should be good enough to avoid relegation! Where does it say we have signed any of these "short term"?
 

stevenurse

Palacios' neck fat
May 14, 2007
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As someone said earlier, keane and defoe cant play together...Pav indeed isnt berba (although I think Pav is class) and we also have Bent, so that means at any one time we will have £30m pounds worth of strikers on the bench yet no left winger still. We should have gone all out for Quaresma, even if he isnt the best player, he cant be worse than Bentley on the left and would also bring some excitement when he gets the ball. The faster pace of the prem will suit him and I believe we have missed out there.

And the Keane situation is a joke, basically we have said "go on then, F off to liverpool but if it doesnt work, you can always come back here"...bunch of mugs
 

Dan Ashcroft

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These "former players" were in the squad for our 5th place finishes! You wonder what happened to the team but don't want to resign them?

So were Stalteri and Mido. Carrick and then Berbatov carried that team.

The league now is also significantly higher standard than it was back then.
 

jimmy-jojo

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Jun 30, 2004
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More gutted. We are going nowhere as a club. We might have ensured we stay up this season but we've similarly put our development back for next season and beyond by such a short termist approach.

So you would prefer for us to continue going backwards as a club...because that is exactly what we've done in the last 12 months? We are now at a point where I think we should have been at the beginning of the season. How far would relegation put us back..because that's where we're headed. I'm n ot even sure the signings we've made will stp that as the damage has already been done by Comolli and Ramos.

The previous regime made an almighty mess of our transfer dealings in the summer. We let go of too many proven performers and managed to keep hold of all the deadwood. So we did not improve the squad at all, we made it weaker.

The squad is now much stronger and we've got in players who shouldn't have been allowed to go in the first place. And the best part is that it probably hasn't cost us much upfront.
 

Dan Ashcroft

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We now have practically all the 5th place finishers back. So they should be good enough to avoid relegation! Where does it say we have signed any of these "short term"?

Short term in terms of we are buying players to ensure we avoid relegation, rather than with who we can build another team to challenge near the top again.
 

StockSpur

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May 20, 2004
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bit miffed we missed out on quresma and nzogbia, both less than 5million and proven left sided midfielders..
 

jimmy-jojo

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Short term in terms of we are buying players to ensure we avoid relegation, rather than with who we can build another team to challenge near the top again.

Typical spurs fan...always getting ahead of themselves. The reality is the we are fighting relegation.

It's laughable that you're talking about challenging for a top 4 spot. This is why we're considered a joke.
 

soup

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May 26, 2004
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I could understand your point of view if you were referring to your general disappointment at there being no last minute, record breaking, superstar-signing wonder deal, as we all secretly dream for 'that' big one, but to be completely underwhelmed by our actual signings is going maybe a bit too far, no?

Keane knows the club and everyone around him, he was a massive persona and Comolli described it as a massive loss to the dressing room. He's scored a shedload for us in the past and will be coming back knowing he has to fight harder than ever this time around (and ever's a bit handy too). ;)

Defoe never wanted out, and I think even with Keane back he'll appreciate what we've had to do due to his injury. I'm sure he'd rather have the worry of competing with Keane in the premiership rather than the championship. Again, he knows his surroundings and will not have to settle in.

Chimbonda, a mix of the above, to a certain extent.

Cudicini is an outstanding number two, no two ways about that one. And finally, Palacios, who in my opinion could be the best signing of the lot.

Harry also said that none of our players would be leaving and they didn't, well, apart from one, who Harry wanted to include in the squad but sections of the crowd wouldn't let him.

Of course it could have been better, but that's just the Spur fan in you talking.

Great window.
 

Dan Ashcroft

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Typical spurs fan...always getting ahead of themselves. The reality is the we are fighting relegation.

It's laughable that you're talking about challenging for a top 4 spot. This is why we're considered a joke.

But spending £30m on Keane and Defoe who can never play on the pitch at the same time?! I just wish there'd been some thought and strategy to our purchases, rather than panicing so much.
 

dcarney75

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Jan 15, 2007
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I wish SC had existed the day we signed Gary Doherty!

How has Harry gambled? He's bought five established PL players, three of whom know the club and know what to expect, so shouldn't take much bedding in. Hugely helpful for a relegation fight.

Anyone feeling underwhelmed is either still a bit hungover from the Dos Santos/Modric-signing Ramos era, or swallowing every fictitious newspaper article linking Spurs with an unproven and newly fashionable European/South American starlet. We're 14th in the table, and really can't afford at this point to look beyond staying up. And Harry's purchases reflect that perfectly.

We've been the most active PL club of the window, with five signings. We've not had any of our Modrics, Pavs, Woodgates tempted away by bigger things, and still some people are unhappy, because they want the world and they want it now.

Yes, obviously there's a question mark over whether Keane and Defoe can play together (and if a few blokes on a forum can see it then I'd be pretty sure Harry can as well) but I'd rather have those two competing to play alongside Pav than Bent and Campbell. And remembering Charlton away and a few other games from 06/07 (I think) I don't think they're the hugely incompatible pairing they're constantly made out to be.

The squad has genuinely improved this window. Genuinely improved, and I wouldn't be surprised if people look back upon these few weeks as the time when we cemented our ongoing PL status. I'm really hopeful about Palacios - he's consistently looked very good for Wigan in my opinion.

Re: the signings we missed - we could easily have got N'Zogbia over Wigan, but obviously didn't feel he was good enough, and Quaresma is going to pick Chelsea over us every day of the week at the moment, for both financial and footballing reasons. Time to stop worrying about the players we don't have and start supporting those we do!!

Not a pop at anyone in this thread, but generally speaking the amount of angst and discontent I've read on this thread today makes me wonder why some people bother - supporting Spurs is clearly making them deeply frustrated and unhappy!
 

teddy_sheringham_125

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But we didn't bring in high calibre players to attract high calibre players. We've also blown a lot of our budget

We've spent around £50m this window! You'd hope we'd've bought at least one great player out of that. Or a DM and a LM. Arshavin, Inler and Adriano would have only cost about £40m.

That's very true Dan, but those three (or at least two of them) obviously didn't want to come to us. We may have missed out on Arshavin in the summer, but from what we've heard he snubbed us in this window in favour of Arsenal, and who could blame him? We've certainly gone backwards since the summer; at that point we were fancied for top 4 and the players we could attract for the most part were in line with that. The problem now is that we are flirting with relegation, and why should a top player have the same rose tinted view of our club that we do? We think we have good players and are a sleeping giant etc., but players at top clubs don't see it like that.

It's been a sobering window; we've bought in the best we can attract at this moment in time. If we let them settle for a while without another major upheaval in the summer then maybe we can push towards top 6 again, I certainly think the squad is good enough for that. Only then can we add one or two world class players to compliment a solid squad and our obviously talented youth team.
 

Tickers

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Feb 16, 2005
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The thing is, and it pains me to write this, is that a hefty percentage of Spurs fans are utter ****s.

I really don't know what people expected. If you'd offered me Keane, Defoe, Palacios, Cudicini and Chimbo (all right, maybe not him) with no significant departures at the start of the month I'd have bitten your bloody hand off.

We end the window with a vastly superior squad to that which entered it. Stop fucking whinging, you ungrateful fucksticks.
 
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