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Tottenham Vs Wycombe Wanderers: Match Thread

sparx100

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Went to the game yesterday and a really flat crowd contributed to a really flat performance.

Vorm showed in the first 20 mins how to not come for crosses. Must have been 4 or 5 that he came for that he never got anywhere near.

The 2 centre backs were woeful. Communication between the whole back 4 and the keeper was non existent.

Trippier was at least offering an outlet on the right. His crossing is excellent and a couple should have been finished but as we didnt really have a striker in the box first half there was noone there to get on the end of them.

Onomah needs loaning or releasing. Dont care which but he needs to find a position to excel in.

Sissoko was not great. He plays nice short passes to players but he lacks the brain to move again to make for the return or carry off anything further. His control is frankly shambolic.

Dier concerns me. Have said it before but he is no centre back. He is just not good enough to be the experienced one at the back which showed for the 3rd goal. I am genuinely worried for his position in the team other than as 3rd centre back in a back 3 as in a 2 he isn't commanding enough.

So thats 7 of the starting 11 who were poor and showed perhaps our lack of depth. A couple are inexperienced so possibly should not be as harshly criticised and could have a decent future but against an opposition like Wycombe i think a better display should have been seen.

I am letting nkoudou off as although he had little end product he went forward and he does have pace to burn.

Son scored 2 goals but was erratic. Good enough display from him and a livewire. Doesnt stop running and trying but infuriating. There was at leat two times when he had the ball and onomah had made a decent run but he failed to see it soon enough and played a simple pass.

My motm was Winks. Good engine and not afraid to take the ball in bad situations. Drives forward but has to check back as the rest od the team dont offer options. Finally his strength on the ball is very akin to Dembele. Hardly ever loses it and has that 'turn'.

Subwise. The 3 who came on influenced the game. Janssen was just a presence uo front and he stayed up front. Had balls to take the penalty.

Dele was quiet in truth but his one real quality is coming alive and making runs in the box resulting in his goal.

Dembele was again fairly quiet but a great time to come on and retain the ball against a tired wycombe team.

Lets not take anything away from Wycombe either. Outsang us, had real heart and scored 3 goals against us. Their 2 centre backs i thought were decent and i know the goals conceded doesnt really support that but they looked good.

Was funny to see the beast in action. He really bullied our centre backs. The amount of time he won the ball in the air was unreal!
 

Wsussexspur

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The one big possitive I took from yesterday's game was that we came back to win. Probably only 4/5 ago losing 2-0 at half time we would have gone on to lose that game. Certainly when the third went in with only 7/8 minutes left with only 10 men on the pitch we would have definitely lost that game. Really shows the change in mentality Potch has brought to the club.

Players need to use yesterday as a lesson as well. I think lot of them Just thought they would have to turn up and go through the motions and they would win the game.
 

philip

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Was funny to see the beast in action. He really bullied our centre backs. The amount of time he won the ball in the air was unreal!

You might have found it funny. I found out worrying that Pochettino said publicly that he hadn't made specific plans for him, then our inexperienced CBs got completely bullied by him.

As good as our players are, there are occasions when Poch does need to have a bit of a reality check and prepare for the opposition more
 

shelfmonkey

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Not an excuse but Roger East showed why he shouldn't be a Prem ref.

Allowing the wrestling that happened, missing blatant handballs, and giving penalties from 40 yards away.

That is without mentioning the rugby tackles and shirt pulls. If each of the cynical and blatant fouls had of been correctly punished, then WW would have ended the game with 8 men.

It was an FA Cup tie against league two opposition, not a premier league ponce fest, get over it, it was pure British footballing entertainment and I loved it.
 

slartibartfast

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Listened to match on TS2 as was working at Dads. Not sure who was commentating but I got the impression we were 2.0 down at one point. Some games you can listen to for ages and not know the score. No fear of that here as the fktard literally mentioned it every 15 secs. Seriously the prick must have said it about 150 times. Must have been gooner.
"Spurs 2.0 down here at whl to 2nd div Wycombe..... and if you've just joined us Spurs are losing 2.0 to Wycombe"!!!! Oh do fk off :mad:
 

Monkey boy

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Not sure where to post this but mean as we made so many changes yesterday so our first team can rest it seems like the right place.

Have a look at the tennis right now.
 

Vincent30

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Its always going to be a struggle for CCV a 19 year old to play well with Davies, Wimmer around him who aren't leaders at all. Trips played well. But CCV needs a Toby or Verts alongside him. Plus it was a great experience to play against them and the strength of that beast they had upfront.
 

Dundalk_Spur

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It was an FA Cup tie against league two opposition, not a premier league ponce fest, get over it, it was pure British footballing entertainment and I loved it.

I don't disagree that it helped make an old school cup tie out of it, but when players on yellows try to exchange shirts early and don't get booked, whats the point having laws?? Might as well let them on the field with knuckle dusters and shivs.
 

ralphs bald spot

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Not an excuse but Roger East showed why he shouldn't be a Prem ref.

Allowing the wrestling that happened, missing blatant handballs, and giving penalties from 40 yards away.

That is without mentioning the rugby tackles and shirt pulls. If each of the cynical and blatant fouls had of been correctly punished, then WW would have ended the game with 8 men.

I thought the ref was excellent he let the game flow and allowed the game to be competitive - Wycombe had to make it a battle if they stood off Spurs would have taken them apart, there was nothing dangerous just purely physical and competitive. They certainly contributed more than several premier league clubs have done and it as up to Spurs to find the answers which we just about did.

I thought it was a great watch and they were great the ref and linesman contributed, it was something of a throwback to games of old.
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PS Janssen ought to get a video of Akinfenwa who terrified the Spurs back 4
 

shelfmonkey

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I don't disagree that it helped make an old school cup tie out of it, but when players on yellows try to exchange shirts early and don't get booked, whats the point having laws?? Might as well let them on the field with knuckle dusters and shivs.

You're obviously too accustomed to the sanitised bollocks of the premier league! Yesterday's game was an example of how competitive and, to a point, how levelling a gut busting degree of effort and sheer will made our country's football the most popular on the planet.
 

2bearis2do

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But we won didn't we?

A lot of comments on how poch played a side he expected to win and then a lot of criticism...

We won.

He expected that side to win, and they did.

Whats wrong?
Because he had to make massive changes to turn it around - the starting X1 clearly weren't good enough.
 

lukespurs7

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Obvious to say that was a big result for us. Sometimes the underdogs turn up and yesterday they played out of their skins against a disjointed Spurs 2nd XI.

At home to a league 2 side we should be putting them away even with a weakened team. Dissapointing performances from a few.

But to be 2-0 down and then 3-2 with 8 mins left and 10 men and to turn it around and win, regardless of weather we think we should've been in that position in the first place is a sign of a good team and a sign of yet again our attitude under Potch.

Bit disappointed he didn't play a slightly stronger team but can forgive him in thinking that at home to a league 2 team the likes of Son, Sissoko, Winks, Dier, Vorm etc would be fine.

HUGE win and very pleased we're still in the FA cup we need to win trophies and that would've been a disgrace going out in the 4th round at home to a league two side. Forget the beauty of the cup we need to have that winning mentality.

All in all glad we got the lucky win and hoping we can really go far in this.

COYS
 

2bearis2do

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'NEVER EVER....' except we won?
We won because he was forced to throw on 3 senior players to rescue the shambles he started with. Ok, I love the way my overuse of the words NEVER EVER is the bit that catches your and most people's attention on here. An over claim - that is all. I'm talking about trying to win the FAC Cup not the freaking EFL Carling Cup Pish or Europa Fantasy League whatever. The FA CUP - The Cup we used to Love and dream of winning every season, a cup where we have fielded weakened teams for the last 5 seasons - I freaking hate it and get shouty about it.
2013 Out Round 4 losing to Leeds away with weakened team.
2014 Out Round 3 losing to The Ar$e away with weakened team.
2015 Out Round 4 losing to Leicester HOME with weakened team.
2016 OUT Round 5 losing to Leeds HOME with weakened team.
2017 - Field the apprentice team and hope and pray we beat a 4th tier team who were unbeaten in 16 games - we got lucky.

I think if we had played our strongest team in the past two seasons we could have lifted that trophy FFS. That's what I care about - the freaking GLORY, the desire to win the FA CUP. I don't care about the words I use to overstate my case.
 

hughy

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We won because he was forced to throw on 3 senior players to rescue the shambles he started with. Ok, I love the way my overuse of the words NEVER EVER is the bit that catches your and most people's attention on here. An over claim - that is all. I'm talking about trying to win the FAC Cup not the freaking EFL Carling Cup Pish or Europa Fantasy League whatever. The FA CUP - The Cup we used to Love and dream of winning every season, a cup where we have fielded weakened teams for the last 5 seasons - I freaking hate it and get shouty about it.
2013 Out Round 4 losing to Leeds away with weakened team.
2014 Out Round 3 losing to The Ar$e away with weakened team.
2015 Out Round 4 losing to Leicester HOME with weakened team.
2016 OUT Round 5 losing to Leeds HOME with weakened team.
2017 - Field the apprentice team and hope and pray we beat a 4th tier team who were unbeaten in 16 games - we got lucky.

I think if we had played our strongest team in the past two seasons we could have lifted that trophy FFS. That's what I care about - the freaking GLORY, the desire to win the FA CUP. I don't care about the words I use to overstate my case.

"Apprentice team"?! Do me a favour. I'm not going to do the maths but I can imagine our starting 11 yesterday was pushing 1000 professional appearances at club level and included 5 full internationals.

The fact is we underestimated Wycombe in the first half and they took the game to us - on another day we could have been 3-0 up at half time. It was a freak game and I don't blame Poch on his team selection at all. With all due respect to Wycombe they are 3 leagues below us and our "apprentice team" should be beating them every day of the week.
 

Shadydan

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We won because he was forced to throw on 3 senior players to rescue the shambles he started with. Ok, I love the way my overuse of the words NEVER EVER is the bit that catches your and most people's attention on here. An over claim - that is all. I'm talking about trying to win the FAC Cup not the freaking EFL Carling Cup Pish or Europa Fantasy League whatever. The FA CUP - The Cup we used to Love and dream of winning every season, a cup where we have fielded weakened teams for the last 5 seasons - I freaking hate it and get shouty about it.
2013 Out Round 4 losing to Leeds away with weakened team.
2014 Out Round 3 losing to The Ar$e away with weakened team.
2015 Out Round 4 losing to Leicester HOME with weakened team.
2016 OUT Round 5 losing to Leeds HOME with weakened team.
2017 - Field the apprentice team and hope and pray we beat a 4th tier team who were unbeaten in 16 games - we got lucky.

I think if we had played our strongest team in the past two seasons we could have lifted that trophy FFS. That's what I care about - the freaking GLORY, the desire to win the FA CUP. I don't care about the words I use to overstate my case.

Dude open your eyes, look around at the other fixtures and particularly Premiership teams, everyone played weakened teams, that's the point in having a squad. You cannot play strong teams in every game because players will burn out psychically and mentally and we need to give chances to the backups and youth. You are ridiculous If we can't play the liked of Sissoko and Trippier against a fekin league 2 team then we really have problems.

You're the kind of person who'd want to play our strongest team and wonder why the intensity drops off in April.
 

tooey

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We won because he was forced to throw on 3 senior players to rescue the shambles he started with. Ok, I love the way my overuse of the words NEVER EVER is the bit that catches your and most people's attention on here. An over claim - that is all. I'm talking about trying to win the FAC Cup not the freaking EFL Carling Cup Pish or Europa Fantasy League whatever. The FA CUP - The Cup we used to Love and dream of winning every season, a cup where we have fielded weakened teams for the last 5 seasons - I freaking hate it and get shouty about it.
2013 Out Round 4 losing to Leeds away with weakened team.
2014 Out Round 3 losing to The Ar$e away with weakened team.
2015 Out Round 4 losing to Leicester HOME with weakened team.
2016 OUT Round 5 losing to Leeds HOME with weakened team.
2017 - Field the apprentice team and hope and pray we beat a 4th tier team who were unbeaten in 16 games - we got lucky.

I think if we had played our strongest team in the past two seasons we could have lifted that trophy FFS. That's what I care about - the freaking GLORY, the desire to win the FA CUP. I don't care about the words I use to overstate my case.

Whatever your personal opinion of the FA cup is, it's 2017, the FA cup isn't taken particularly seriously by the top teams for a whole plethora of reasons. Yes, we have great history in the completion but the fact is that it plays 3rd fiddle to the premier league and European football because it generates less money.
 
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