Tottenham Vs Arsenal: Match Thread

[Bennys LOL]

Are we as fans to be so impressed that ''the passion was there''? shouldnt that be a given? shouldnt that be the first thing a manager instills and demands of his players every single week?

What would impress me about a manager would be decisions that were made during a game that would turn it in our favour.

 

[scottlag10]

="millsey, post: 3923512, member: 7010"]Merson just summed us up perfectly. We spent 100 mill, and not one of those players can you say have had a 7 out of 10 season. More 4 or 5. Baldini has to take a lot of the blame

Merson should also know that players need to settle. Wenger knows this. Most fans know this. Or should do. Baldini bought them. If they come good next season he should be praised. If they don't, then he can be blamed.

And the man that appointed him?

 

[tobi]

We had some decent chances, some thanks to Szczecny. Really shame Chadli didn't score.

If he scored I think their defense would have opened up a bit more because they'd be forced to change mentality.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Wenger is just laughing at us and wanting us to retain Tim for another year to make his life easier. Merking us the sly French baguette

 

[CrazyHeart]

I don't get why you don't get that some people weren't happy with AVB, and also aren't happy with Sherwood? Why does it have to be one or the other?

Because AVB gone is what you wanted and that's exactly what you got. I'm sure you'd rather have Pep Guardiola than Sherwood. But shucks! I'd like Cheryl Cole in my bed every night, but that's not the reality we're living in. Bottom line is that there was no thought to what might happen by firing AVB at that time, besides destabilising our already shaky crew of misfits and cowboys while simultaneously dissuading any reputable manager by making us look like a hire-and-fire culture club.

Let me put it to you this way in a point blank question. You weren't happy with AVB, I get that - and now you're not happy with Sherwood, I get that too... my question is: Now that you know what the options are, and if you had to do it over... would you still fire AVB for Sherwood, or see AVB finish out the season before making that call? Simple answer, steeped in reality would be appreciated.

 

[greaves]

Merson should also know that players need to settle. Wenger knows this. Most fans know this. Or should do. Baldini bought them. If they come good next season he should be praised. If they don't, then he can be blamed.

And the man that appointed him?

Yep. I have said this elsewhere. Needs reviewing.

Yep. I have said before there hss

Merson should also know that players need to settle. Wenger knows this. Most fans know this. Or should do. Baldini bought them. If they come good next season he should be praised. If they don't, then he can be blamed.

And the man that appointed him?

 

[CrazyHeart]

Wenger is just laughing at us and wanting us to retain Tim for another year to make his life easier. Merking us the sly French baguette

To be honest, I don't think that's the case... Arsene Wenger's got too much class for that.

 

[noiseboy55]

after reading all the after match guff and opinions, seems like merson(!) was the only one who watched the game. disgusting 'selfie' action going on afterwards as well. we've just been utterly piss poor this season. let's hope it all clicks next season like it did for Liverpool after they're went transfer crazy!

 

[Beni]

If roles had been reversed today most on here would be saying we were lucky again and that Wenger tactically had the better of Sherwood

Even Ferdinand said before the game that tactics go out of the window in a NLD.
What we saw was players putting in a lot of effort in response to Sherwood's damning of them recently, but lacked creativity in the final 3rd.
Maybe if he did concentrate on tactics, he might of come up with a game plan to be more creative when Arsenal got behind the ball, and also use his subs as a positive instead of them turning our play to negative.

 

[paulcumpstone]

The whole of WHL were telling TS to bring Soldado on at around 60 mins, what did he do, he took Sandro off for pauli and Chadli off for Siggy, Why? .. it was after that that they nearly scored their second but for a good save. Soldado should have come on while we had good momentum and the crosses were flying in.

If we know this, why dosnt the manager?

Im done for the season now, i couldnt care less any more, ive had enough of this shit.

While im at it, DL has to take a lot of the blame, If he and AVB couldnt butt heads and come out together for the sake of the club then he's really not a great guy to be in charge tbh.

I agree totally, thats me done for the season too, well as much as my heart strings let me, flop does do us justice this season, dont think we have even managed one stellar performance all season long.

 

[TheGreenLily]

To be honest, I don't think that's the case... Arsene Wenger's got too much class for that.

I would still shit in his tea

Wenger, class...?

 

[CrazyHeart]

Probably old news around here, but I'll say it anyway: BREAKING NEWS! Jermain Defoe scored twice in his MLS game by the way!

Spam?! Really... what the frak is this world coming to?! Jeez Louise lighten up people!

 

[shelfboy68]

Me too. The Alan Sugar era is returning. LVG will want a transfer budget before he agrees - which he won't get.

Absolutely he is no fool and if he does his homework on Levy anyone in football will tell you he won't get what he will ask for just move on a target someone realistic.

 

[mrlilywhite]

Are we as fans to be so impressed that ''the passion was there''? shouldnt that be a given? shouldnt that be the first thing a manager instills and demands of his players every single week?

What would impress me about a manager would be decisions that were made during a game that would turn it in our favour.

This is so bloody right mate....always seems too much at our club to do the bloody obvious!!

 

[scat1620]

Because AVB gone is what you wanted and that's exactly what you got. I'm sure you'd rather have Pep Guardiola than Sherwood. But shucks! I'd like Cheryl Cole in my bed every night, but that's not the reality we're living in. Bottom line is that there was no thought to what might happen by firing AVB at that time, besides destabilising our already shaky crew of misfits and cowboys while simultaneously dissuading any reputable manager by making us look like a hire-and-fire culture club.

Let me put it to you this way in a point blank question. You weren't happy with AVB, I get that - and now you're not happy with Sherwood, I get that too... my question is: Now that you know what the options are, and if you had to do it over... would you still fire AVB for Sherwood, or see AVB finish out the season before making that call? Simple answer, steeped in reality would be appreciated.

My genuinely honest answer is that I think Sherwood and AVB have been much of a muchness in terms of effectiveness (if not personnel selection) and I think we'd be very much in the position we are now under the stewardship of either: out of the cups and with no hope of the top 4. But I already had that feeling about AVB at the time of his sacking, and at that same time I did not have an opinion one way or the other about Sherwood (because there was no evidence to draw a conclusion from), so the gamble to appoint Sherwood (or possibly someone better) seemed worth it to me. I'm sorry that the gamble hasn't paid off with Sherwood, but I truly believe that we wouldn't be significantly better or worse off with AVB still in charge and therefore it's all a bit of a moot point to me. IMO, neither were/are up to the job.

 

[JamieDaCosta]

In short....

Adebayor and Townsend were superb and worked their bollocks off

If he was gonna pick Chadli today then he should have put Eriksen behind Ade and Chadli on the wing, not the other way round

We were the better team although we didn't create enough clear cut chances

What exactly did Paulinho and Sigurdsson do when they came on???

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Today illustrated that as much as we huffed and puffed, there was still no real identity to the style of football we are trying to play.. It resembles a shambolic free for all at the moment, which lacks any plan and hence why we were so poor with our decision making.

 

[handsomecake]

these ****s have my heart broken.

 

[Ginolas_Hair]

after reading all the after match guff and opinions, seems like merson(!) was the only one who watched the game. disgusting 'selfie' action going on afterwards as well. we've just been utterly piss poor this season. let's hope it all clicks next season like it did for Liverpool after they're went transfer crazy!

Unfortunately, i doubt we will see a 'Liverpool-esque' turnaround in fortunes.

Brendan Rodgers is a fairly experienced manager known for attacking football and Liverpool have backed him and given him sufficient time and patience despite the initial teething problems.

At present, Spurs don't seem to have a stable/long term manager at the helm and despite, having a decent squad on paper it's still un-balanced and lacking in certain areas.

I think we're at 'King-Kenny' stage right now

Sorry for the pessimism but i had so much optimism for this season after last and it's yet another false dawn at Spurs

 

[CrazyHeart]

My genuinely honest answer is that I think Sherwood and AVB have been much of a muchness in terms of effectiveness (if not personnel selection) and I think we'd be very much in the position we are now under the stewardship of either: out of the cups and with no hope of the top 4. But I already had that feeling about AVB at the time of his sacking, and at that same time I did not have an opinion one way or the other about Sherwood (because there was no evidence to draw a conclusion from), so the gamble to appoint Sherwood (or possibly someone better) seemed worth it to me. I'm sorry that the gamble hasn't paid off with Sherwood, but I truly believe that we wouldn't be significantly better or worse off with AVB still in charge and therefore it's all a bit of a moot point to me. IMO, neither were/are up to the job.

Fair enough and point respectfully taken... but can you please answer the question: If you had to do it over, would you still?