Tottenham Takeover Talk

[G Ron]

It was always levy always has been , he makes too much money now and we keep giving into him so why should he stop, he looks down at us and laughs .

He looks up at us and laughs

 

[thelak]

Think that's also largely those Ange in are Levy out and vice versa so why the numbers are fairly similar. I imagine a very small percentage are both Ange and Levy in.

What about those that are Levy and Ange out.

I would love a more ambitious owner than Levy

Also think there are much better managers out there than Ange

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

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Funnily enough i follow 1 & 3 and they are both pony.

maybe it is me?

 

[spursfan77]

We're doing the one that is achievable, because the big name players will choose big clubs.

If Levy was to approve £300k p.w. contracts, which players who command a £300k p.w. salary do you think would want to join us over a bigger club that routinely wins trophies?

Yes. That’s the point, it’s called ambition. Why would they chose any other PL club over us, that’s where we should be getting to with our recruitment. There should be a target. Instead we want to be the PL Dortmund and it’s not possible given the different circumstances of the clubs.

 

[Trix]

We're doing the one that is achievable, because the big name players will choose big clubs.

If Levy was to approve £300k p.w. contracts, which players who command a £300k p.w. salary do you think would want to join us over a bigger club that routinely wins trophies?

The same type Man City and Chelsea signed before they were winning trophies every year. You know, the ones that got them into that position in the first place.

 

[mil1lion]

What about those that are Levy and Ange out.

I would love a more ambitious owner than Levy

Also think there are much better managers out there than Ange

I think that number is pretty small though. I'd at least like to see how Ange does with better players first. If he still fails fair enough let him go.

 

[YB123]

We're doing the one that is achievable, because the big name players will choose big clubs.

If Levy was to approve £300k p.w. contracts, which players who command a £300k p.w. salary do you think would want to join us over a bigger club that routinely wins trophies?

Premier League, London, Facilities.

Absolutely.

If we had done that under the Poch era or with Jose or Conte, no doubt about it.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Premier League, London, Facilities.

Absolutely.

If we had done that under the Poch era or with Jose or Conte, no doubt about it.

If we’d stumped up for Bastoni we’d have got him. He was not dying to leave inter but there’s a figure they and he would’ve accepted to make the move.

 

[YB123]

If we’d stumped up for Bastoni we’d have got him. He was not dying to leave inter but there’s a figure they and he would’ve accepted to make the move.

Was the same with Dumfries.

People underestimate the pull of London City.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Was the same with Dumfries.

People underestimate the pull of London City.

And most importantly a big salary. If you pay, you get.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

The same type Man City and Chelsea signed before they were winning trophies every year. You know, the ones that got them into that position in the first place.

They massively overpaid (transfer fees + wages) for a lot of those players. It was a model that was only possible while running their clubs at a massive loss, pre-FFP & pre-PSR.

 

[Trix]

They massively overpaid (transfer fees + wages) for a lot of those players. It was a model that was only possible while running their clubs at a massive loss, pre-FFP & pre-PSR.

Trust me I know enough about agents to 100% say if we jumped to paying elite level wages we'd be having more phone calls and conversations regarding elite level players instigated by them.

There is one such player(sort of) that we have been enquiring about right now that I have disclosed back of house, and from actual 1 to 1 knowledge from his agent the main stumbling block will be the players salary he's currently on.

 

[danielneeds]

If we’d stumped up for Bastoni we’d have got him. He was not dying to leave inter but there’s a figure they and he would’ve accepted to make the move.

There is a domino effect if you start making signings and massively overpay them on fees and wages. For instance, if we’d have signed Bastoni and paid him significantly over the odds then all the other young players in our squad would be wanting parity.

That’s fine if you are a City or earlier period-Chelsea and can run at a loss, and also get rid of players ruthlessly if they don’t perform and pay parts of their wage at their new clubs just to make sure they go.

i do understand the need for certain level of financial discipline when shaping your squad. The model we had under Poch because the players were constantly getting new contracts that reflected their performances and it drove a level of excellence around the club.

The problem was Levy missed his moment to pivot and make some big signings to bring the whole project to its rightful conclusion.

 

[brasil_spur]

There is a domino effect if you start making signings and massively overpay them on fees and wages. For instance, if we’d have signed Bastoni and paid him significantly over the odds then all the other young players in our squad would be wanting parity.

That’s fine if you are a City or earlier period-Chelsea and can run at a loss, and also get rid of players ruthlessly if they don’t perform and pay parts of their wage at their new clubs just to make sure they go.

i do understand the need for certain level of financial discipline when shaping your squad. The model we had under Poch because the players were constantly getting new contracts that reflected their performances and it drove a level of excellence around the club.

The problem was Levy missed his moment to pivot and make some big signings to bring the whole project to its rightful conclusion.

He missed a moment, but IMO there is another one coming up right now.

I get that our current league position looks a bit shit, but the reality is with 1-2 world class players added to our team in the summer we would be sitting in 3rd right now and competing in all cups.

We've got a shitty run of games coming up, but that seems to always be the case these days. I think the imperative is to buy 1-2 world class players in January. Is that feasible - yes, is it easy - no.

But it's clear we need a defensive leader ASAP as well as either someone who can fully command the midfield or (my preference) an elite attacking player that can really make a difference in a game.

Trouble is where do you even find these players right now? Raphina is one that we could have potentially had in the summer, but there were quite a few detractors in here, he has since gone on to score 12 goals in 16 appearances for Barca so far this season.

The other option, which we pulled the plug on this summer with Solanke, is to go with current in-form PL players. That would probably point towards someone like Mbeumo.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Uh…. What the hell is going on in this thread? Ten pages of ripping ENiC, Daniel, proforma sheets. Takeover news? Nowt.

 

[goughie1966]

The same type Man City and Chelsea signed before they were winning trophies every year. You know, the ones that got them into that position in the first place.

I don’t think it’s that simple. Abramovich wrote off £1.5 billion In his time at Chelsea. City have fiddled even more I suspect. There’s no way we can compete with that level of spending. I reckon both these clubs would outbid us in the last minute as they did with Willian, Diaz, Neto recently

 

[Trix]

I don’t think it’s that simple. Abramovich wrote off £1.5 billion In his time at Chelsea. City have fiddled even more I suspect. There’s no way we can compete with that level of spending. I reckon both these clubs would outbid us in the last minute as they did with Willian, Diaz, Neto recently

Yeah because they weren't in our position to start with. It's been this way for a few years now and of course that is down to levy and he deserves credit for that, but there is an awful lot of room for us to increase the wage budget if we wished to do so, and the only reason we don't is because we choose not to. In fact if anything it's reducing compared to our income.

 

[brasil_spur]

I don’t think it’s that simple. Abramovich wrote off £1.5 billion In his time at Chelsea. City have fiddled even more I suspect. There’s no way we can compete with that level of spending. I reckon both these clubs would outbid us in the last minute as they did with Willian, Diaz, Neto recently

City don't do that. They target very specific players they want and land them, they don't go around gazumping teams.

Chelsea however do, but at some point A) they will have to stop signing players and B) players will look at their squad and see how much of a mess it is.

We're not going to win the battle for every top player we want to sign, but it's becoming increasingly easier for us as our revenues soar and other teams in the PL and Europe struggle to meet FFP rules and find money.

 

[tubbygold]

Yeah because they weren't in our position to start with. It's been this way for a few years now and of course that is down to levy and he deserves credit for that, but there is an awful lot of room for us to increase the wage budget if we wished to do so, and the only reason we don't is because we choose not to. In fact if anything it's reducing compared to our income.

Fattening up the pig.

 

[mil1lion]

How can people not think that increasing the wages won't help? No top club in the world operates with our wage restraints. I mean one example is Williams and he's playing at bloody Athletic Club. Top players will take us forward and you have to pay top money for that. The issue with us is we aren't prepared to pay for fee and wages, we pay players on lower wages and over time increase them. That works up to a point but unless they all turn into top players we won't have the quality to compete. The top teams bring in top prospects from other clubs, bring some though the academy, sign some of the top players from lower clubs in the league. All things that we do but they also sign top players as well. I honestly think it's the only thing left to our approach now. Outside of a few top players I like what we're doing but I just can't see Enic ever taking that last step. By the time the young players break through others get sold and not replaced by similar quality. So at best we take a sideways step. We still don't even have a player on Kane level. You can guarantee if someone does hit that level Son will be gone too. You could argue Romero is a top player but not showing it this season possibly because he wants to be in Madrid (which in fairness even new owners may not prevent). I just think these players see us as a stepping stone. We shouldn't lose players simply because they want to win things though, the Madrid and Barcas I can live with. Losing players to the biggest clubs will happen even to other top teams but if we do then we should sign similar level replacements.