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rossdapep

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I always thought he'd be an option for us but our fan base would have been outraged if we'd gone for him, plus with similar resources to Ange he's achieved about the same. If he can't get Newcastle to take the next step he won't be doing it with us.
To be fair mate when he came in he took them from certain relegation candidates to fighting for the top half of the table.

They had a bit of investment with players like Trippier, Burn, Wood and Guimaraes coming in and whilst decent, I wouldn't say that is necessarily a hugely brilliant collection of players to guarantee the upturn they had.

He then got 4th in his second season, and again, I wouldn't say it was a huge turnover of players from poor PL players to exceptional players bar Isak and perhaps Botman.

But nothing like we've seen before where some teams sign 4 or 5 game changers. That wasn't the case for Howe.

Last season, they struggled with injury pile ups and they still have a lot of players I would deem not good enough for a team trying to compete (Almiron, Murphy, etc). They still have to rely on them, yet Howe still has them doing well.

I'd dread to think what would have happened had Newcastle been able to spend more and allow Howe to really drive them forward when it was time to. They lost that momentum though with the rules.
 

T-Bone

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There must be some sort of obligation to report any deals , we need a corporate lawyer to give us the lowdown.
Expect any immediate deal would need to be made public like they did when ENIC announced the cash injection but at the moment a lot of the stories are just rumours.

I work for a company who purchased another company for 20+ billion and we heard nothing about it until it was announced to the world in a joint statement when all documents had been signed, only the top top guys new and the deal was done over 2 weeks I believe, you only announce when you sign I would think and hopefully if there is a deal it is done and announced quickly. I think it would give the whole club a huge boost.
 

Goobers

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So would any investment as such as the kind being discussed need to be signed off by our shareholders ?
 

allatsea

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To be fair mate when he came in he took them from certain relegation candidates to fighting for the top half of the table.

They had a bit of investment with players like Trippier, Burn, Wood and Guimaraes coming in and whilst decent, I wouldn't say that is necessarily a hugely brilliant collection of players to guarantee the upturn they had.

He then got 4th in his second season, and again, I wouldn't say it was a huge turnover of players from poor PL players to exceptional players bar Isak and perhaps Botman.

But nothing like we've seen before where some teams sign 4 or 5 game changers. That wasn't the case for Howe.

Last season, they struggled with injury pile ups and they still have a lot of players I would deem not good enough for a team trying to compete (Almiron, Murphy, etc). They still have to rely on them, yet Howe still has them doing well.

I'd dread to think what would have happened had Newcastle been able to spend more and allow Howe to really drive them forward when it was time to. They lost that momentum though with the rules.
I think they bought Wood because Burnley had to sell because of his contract clauses. Additionally and perhaps most importantly it more or less ensured Burnley would get relegated. They were their biggest opponents for that last relegation place.
 

phil

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I've been a shareholder since the original flotation. I also hold shares in another company that was delisted. I can assure you that there is absolutely no obligation on a private companies to keep shareholders notified. The last communication I received as a Tottenham shareholder was 22nd May 2023 notifying me that the 2022 Accounts could be viewed on the website. They didn't bother to notify shareholders when the 2023 Accounts were released.
 

phil

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So would any investment as such as the kind being discussed need to be signed off by our shareholders ?
No.

The investment will presumably be by 'placing' new shares in return for the funds.

In a listed company, such placings would require the approval of shareholders at an AGM/EGM. No such approval is required for private companies. There was a placing a couple of years ago when ENIC invested an additional £150 million. Shareholders were not consulted or even notified.
 

RJR1949

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No.

The investment will presumably be by 'placing' new shares in return for the funds.

In a listed company, such placings would require the approval of shareholders at an AGM/EGM. No such approval is required for private companies. There was a placing a couple of years ago when ENIC invested an additional £150 million. Shareholders were not consulted or even notified.
At some point, shares will have to be sold if Levy and Lewis are to exit from the club.
 

superted4

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No.

The investment will presumably be by 'placing' new shares in return for the funds.

In a listed company, such placings would require the approval of shareholders at an AGM/EGM. No such approval is required for private companies. There was a placing a couple of years ago when ENIC invested an additional £150 million. Shareholders were not consulted or even notified.
This is how I see it been done, so the money can be put into the club as working capital, ie Levy property dream. Presume the full buy out will come at a later date when the property side of the business is booming
 

Neon_Knight_

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Your obviously closer to all this than most of us Herc but considering Levy mentioned looking for investment 6 months ago or whatever it was I was really hoping we'd have more concrete news on some interest by now. I fear we are just over priced and nobody really has an interest in dealing with Levy to negotiate. I'm worried Stavely is just being pictured at the ground on matchdays and NFL days to keep her profile up. Hope i'm wrong because we will never be a serious football club under Levy. Serious business yes but football club whose objective is success on the pitch, no way.
Levy doesn't appear to be in any rush to retire from his role at the club's helm, or to sell off any of his stake (that will be increasing in value over time). Therefore, it stands to reason that any suitors would need to be offering above the perceived market value, as that extra money is the only thing that could potentially convince Levy to sell up / give up his role as Chair.
 

funkycoldmedina

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To be fair mate when he came in he took them from certain relegation candidates to fighting for the top half of the table.

They had a bit of investment with players like Trippier, Burn, Wood and Guimaraes coming in and whilst decent, I wouldn't say that is necessarily a hugely brilliant collection of players to guarantee the upturn they had.

He then got 4th in his second season, and again, I wouldn't say it was a huge turnover of players from poor PL players to exceptional players bar Isak and perhaps Botman.

But nothing like we've seen before where some teams sign 4 or 5 game changers. That wasn't the case for Howe.

Last season, they struggled with injury pile ups and they still have a lot of players I would deem not good enough for a team trying to compete (Almiron, Murphy, etc). They still have to rely on them, yet Howe still has them doing well.

I'd dread to think what would have happened had Newcastle been able to spend more and allow Howe to really drive them forward when it was time to. They lost that momentum though with the rules.
He also had Isak, Pope, Tonali, Gordon, Botman plus the likes of Livramento this season. They've had a significant squad overhaul, like we have. I like him but I don't think he's any better than Ange. Personally I think we now have the structure in place post stadium build we should have had 5 years ago, I'm reluctant to change anything, but that's just me, a happy clapper 😜
 

spursfan77

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I work for a company who purchased another company for 20+ billion and we heard nothing about it until it was announced to the world in a joint statement when all documents had been signed, only the top top guys new and the deal was done over 2 weeks I believe, you only announce when you sign I would think and hopefully if there is a deal it is done and announced quickly. I think it would give the whole club a huge boost.

That's exactly what will happen with us. It is why I struggle to believe some of these leaks popping up on Twitter.
 

Goobers

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No.

The investment will presumably be by 'placing' new shares in return for the funds.

In a listed company, such placings would require the approval of shareholders at an AGM/EGM. No such approval is required for private companies. There was a placing a couple of years ago when ENIC invested an additional £150 million. Shareholders were not consulted or even notified.
Gotcha - thanks very much
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Seems to me it was bad news for private shareholders when Spurs were delisted , at least you could go and find how much your shares were worth and you could sell through the AIM platform. Anyway found this don't know how accurate the share price is..

 
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Westmorlandspur

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Levy has already said they are looking for minority investment. No one will be sacking anybody.
Liverpool and city have previously sold off 10% a few years ago. if we sell 10% Daniel will be looking for 400m . Whether he gets it is another matter.
 

phil

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At some point, shares will have to be sold if Levy and Lewis are to exit from the club.
Agreed. To take over Tottenham, they would need to buy some or all of ENIC's shares. In a listed company they would also be required to offer to buy the minority shareholder's shares on the same terms but I'm not sure if this applies to private companies. If a buyer acquired a certain percentage of shares (70% IIRC) they could require the minority shareholders to sell (but it isn't obligatory).
 

Westmorlandspur

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To be fair mate when he came in he took them from certain relegation candidates to fighting for the top half of the table.

They had a bit of investment with players like Trippier, Burn, Wood and Guimaraes coming in and whilst decent, I wouldn't say that is necessarily a hugely brilliant collection of players to guarantee the upturn they had.

He then got 4th in his second season, and again, I wouldn't say it was a huge turnover of players from poor PL players to exceptional players bar Isak and perhaps Botman.

But nothing like we've seen before where some teams sign 4 or 5 game changers. That wasn't the case for Howe.

Last season, they struggled with injury pile ups and they still have a lot of players I would deem not good enough for a team trying to compete (Almiron, Murphy, etc). They still have to rely on them, yet Howe still has them doing well.

I'd dread to think what would have happened had Newcastle been able to spend more and allow Howe to really drive them forward when it was time to. They lost that momentum though with the rules.
Don’t think they have made a bad signing. Isaak, Gordon and Bruno could get in any team in the league.
Bournemouth were all out attack under Howe but he has shown that can defend when he has to, or to get a result as he did against us this season .
 

phil

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Seems to me it was bad news for private shareholders when Spurs were delisted , at least you could go and find how much you shares were worth and you could sell through the AIM platform. Anyway found this don't know how accurate the share price is..

You'd need to be pretty desperate to sell Tottenham shares on AssetMatch as it only values the club at c£500m.

Interestingly the share price shot up in September from £2 to £3.17. Better, but barely a fifth of their true value. If anyone believes that Tottenham will be taken over in the near future, AssetMatch offers a cheap buy-in (do your own research).
 
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