Tottenham Takeover Talk - New Poll Added
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When i said above "careful what you wish for" (despite A&C digs.......)
Classic tale of the tortoise and the hare, we've been the tortoise ......but 20 years later
I really meant it, Especially bearing in Mind how many trophies are worth winning in the medium term once you have scratched the trophy itch
Yes short term the Carabao and FA cup would partially scratch an itch and maybe a Europa league, but very quickly people would realise that only the
EPL and Champions league are really worth winning long term if you really want to be at the pinnacle of football in Europe and the world generally
The way to have sustained success has until recently been to build a succesful team on the pitch and then keep ploughing the money back into the team and
building the team/brand organically
We are a football club and of course our number one priority from now on has to be success on the pitch.
That is where our growth will come from over the next 10 plus years
Think about the ownership examples in Football right now:-
A) What we have right now ....which in my view is one of the best run clubs in the world with a fully sustainable model.
in truth there are only a handful of clubs already that can compete with us. We have some long term debt that is exttremely low on a fixed rate and is totally manageablefrom non football activity.
In that we are unique. We also have the advantage that our off the field activities and revenue streams subsidise our football activities
As EPL and European profit sustainability rules bite with penalties to the existing cheats like all the sugar daddy clubs , Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Newcastle are already finding it tough
and probably Real and Barca for slightly different reasons state subsidy (which is sort of agaist EU competition law) These guys are going to find the pressure continuing to build
as their practices come under the microscope., and the resulting court cases, points deductions, and relegations start to impact.
B)Those that have grown organically and in every other case have grown because of
success on the field. Our competition there today are the likes of Liverpool, Man U Arsenal and Bayern
C)The subset of those that are the Villas Brightons Hammers and their foreign equivalent whether it be Juve AC Napoli, or Athletico Sevilla etc
(We have already outgrown them in a business sense.) So the well run also rans
D) The Man U case where increasingly they have problems mounting up because they have large debts that were incurred to buy the club, have bought players badly, need to spend on their squad,
but their killer is the C, 1.5 - 2 billion it will cost them to redevelop old trafford, which over time is basically deteriorating into a rotten state.
Because of their enormous fanbase, I am sure they can lumber along for the next few years but at some point they will have to redevelop and the additional debt burden will cripple them for a long while.
E) A new owner who either comes in to us and leverages the club like the Glazers did to ManU .....that would tend kill our competitive advantage, that we now enjoy
or could do a Boehly and piss away a billion on daft transfers and then setus back years. If you think about it all Boehly had to do to the management structure that Roman had put in place was sit back
and let Marina Granoskavaia, Cech and the rest of that team continue to do what they had been doing successfully for a good few years....
Thank god they have imploded i hate that plastic bunch of prats....
F) Finally a sugar daddy owner that is everyones dream, who puts the club on a sound financial sustainable footing , then invests like crazy in the infrastucture, in order to maximise and prolong
the clubs longevity. He realises that the secret to success is on field trophies, puts the management team in place to deliver that and gives them the cash to do it....
In the meantime making sure that we are the fastest growing most profitable and sustainable team in the world with realistic KPIS like wages to salary ratios etc..........
Oh wait a minute.........
G)As far the latest myth as a prospective buyer from the UAE is concerned
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Al_Quwain
1) they are skint
2) The whole population could fit into the stadium and we would have spare seats....
3 ) ??? WTF
COYS
Classic tale of the tortoise and the hare, we've been the tortoise ......but 20 years later
I really meant it, Especially bearing in Mind how many trophies are worth winning in the medium term once you have scratched the trophy itch
Yes short term the Carabao and FA cup would partially scratch an itch and maybe a Europa league, but very quickly people would realise that only the
EPL and Champions league are really worth winning long term if you really want to be at the pinnacle of football in Europe and the world generally
The way to have sustained success has until recently been to build a succesful team on the pitch and then keep ploughing the money back into the team and
building the team/brand organically
We are a football club and of course our number one priority from now on has to be success on the pitch.
That is where our growth will come from over the next 10 plus years
Think about the ownership examples in Football right now:-
A) What we have right now ....which in my view is one of the best run clubs in the world with a fully sustainable model.
in truth there are only a handful of clubs already that can compete with us. We have some long term debt that is exttremely low on a fixed rate and is totally manageablefrom non football activity.
In that we are unique. We also have the advantage that our off the field activities and revenue streams subsidise our football activities
As EPL and European profit sustainability rules bite with penalties to the existing cheats like all the sugar daddy clubs , Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Newcastle are already finding it tough
and probably Real and Barca for slightly different reasons state subsidy (which is sort of agaist EU competition law) These guys are going to find the pressure continuing to build
as their practices come under the microscope., and the resulting court cases, points deductions, and relegations start to impact.
B)Those that have grown organically and in every other case have grown because of
success on the field. Our competition there today are the likes of Liverpool, Man U Arsenal and Bayern
C)The subset of those that are the Villas Brightons Hammers and their foreign equivalent whether it be Juve AC Napoli, or Athletico Sevilla etc
(We have already outgrown them in a business sense.) So the well run also rans
D) The Man U case where increasingly they have problems mounting up because they have large debts that were incurred to buy the club, have bought players badly, need to spend on their squad,
but their killer is the C, 1.5 - 2 billion it will cost them to redevelop old trafford, which over time is basically deteriorating into a rotten state.
Because of their enormous fanbase, I am sure they can lumber along for the next few years but at some point they will have to redevelop and the additional debt burden will cripple them for a long while.
E) A new owner who either comes in to us and leverages the club like the Glazers did to ManU .....that would tend kill our competitive advantage, that we now enjoy
or could do a Boehly and piss away a billion on daft transfers and then setus back years. If you think about it all Boehly had to do to the management structure that Roman had put in place was sit back
and let Marina Granoskavaia, Cech and the rest of that team continue to do what they had been doing successfully for a good few years....
Thank god they have imploded i hate that plastic bunch of prats....
F) Finally a sugar daddy owner that is everyones dream, who puts the club on a sound financial sustainable footing , then invests like crazy in the infrastucture, in order to maximise and prolong
the clubs longevity. He realises that the secret to success is on field trophies, puts the management team in place to deliver that and gives them the cash to do it....
In the meantime making sure that we are the fastest growing most profitable and sustainable team in the world with realistic KPIS like wages to salary ratios etc..........
Oh wait a minute.........
G)As far the latest myth as a prospective buyer from the UAE is concerned
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Al_Quwain
1) they are skint
2) The whole population could fit into the stadium and we would have spare seats....
3 ) ??? WTF
COYS
SirHarryHotspur
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Before any shareholders get too excited about a possible takeover does anyone know the rules on the takeover of a non listed company like Tottenham Hotspur Ltd, with publicly listed companies there are certain rules on takeovers acquiring certain percentages of shares has to be made public but how does that apply to an unlisted company.
Could ENIC just sell their controlling 86% shares privately without the 30,000 private share holders who hold 14% having any offers made for their shares?
Could ENIC just sell their controlling 86% shares privately without the 30,000 private share holders who hold 14% having any offers made for their shares?
mil1lion
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He might already consider it success. From where we were when he took over to where we are now. The stadium and training facilities etc will have been his main objective. Now everything is in place and making money he's essentially done what he has set out for. What really is left for him here now? He's not a football man so I'm not sure the trophies are the main driving force but more a bonus. It's like with the stadium finished now I'm not sure what his role is especially if Munn and co are running the football side. He can basically cash in now and retire if he wants. Although I'm sure Levy will hold some of the pie for a while longer but he's built the value of the club a lot. So generally I can see why now it's built he could consider cashing in on his investment. I think the stadium is his trophy.
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If there is a "sale" - and I am dubious - I think Levy would be staying as part of the deal.
People like Levy dont retire, they live for business
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Who can forget that marvellous team who won the league cup in 2008. Finished 11th if I remember correctly. Following season 8 games, 2 pts as Harry Redknapp used to say. Bottom of the league. Levy said he couldn’t sleep at night.When i said above "careful what you wish for" (despite A&C digs.......)
Classic tale of the tortoise and the hare, we've been the tortoise ......but 20 years later
I really meant it, Especially bearing in Mind how many trophies are worth winning in the medium term once you have scratched the trophy itch
Yes short term the Carabao and FA cup would partially scratch an itch and maybe a Europa league, but very quickly people would realise that only the
EPL and Champions league are really worth winning long term if you really want to be at the pinnacle of football in Europe and the world generally
The way to have sustained success has until recently been to build a succesful team on the pitch and then keep ploughing the money back into the team and
building the team/brand organically
We are a football club and of course our number one priority from now on has to be success on the pitch.
That is where our growth will come from over the next 10 plus years
Think about the ownership examples in Football right now:-
A) What we have right now ....which in my view is one of the best run clubs in the world with a fully sustainable model.
in truth there are only a handful of clubs already that can compete with us. We have some long term debt that is exttremely low on a fixed rate and is totally manageablefrom non football activity.
In that we are unique. We also have the advantage that our off the field activities and revenue streams subsidise our football activities
As EPL and European profit sustainability rules bite with penalties to the existing cheats like all the sugar daddy clubs , Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Newcastle are already finding it tough
and probably Real and Barca for slightly different reasons state subsidy (which is sort of agaist EU competition law) These guys are going to find the pressure continuing to build
as their practices come under the microscope., and the resulting court cases, points deductions, and relegations start to impact.
B)Those that have grown organically and in every other case have grown because of
success on the field. Our competition there today are the likes of Liverpool, Man U Arsenal and Bayern
C)The subset of those that are the Villas Brightons Hammers and their foreign equivalent whether it be Juve AC Napoli, or Athletico Sevilla etc
(We have already outgrown them in a business sense.) So the well run also rans
D) The Man U case where increasingly they have problems mounting up because they have large debts that were incurred to buy the club, have bought players badly, need to spend on their squad,
but their killer is the C, 1.5 - 2 billion it will cost them to redevelop old trafford, which over time is basically deteriorating into a rotten state.
Because of their enormous fanbase, I am sure they can lumber along for the next few years but at some point they will have to redevelop and the additional debt burden will cripple them for a long while.
E) A new owner who either comes in to us and leverages the club like the Glazers did to ManU .....that would tend kill our competitive advantage, that we now enjoy
or could do a Boehly and piss away a billion on daft transfers and then setus back years. If you think about it all Boehly had to do to the management structure that Roman had put in place was sit back
and let Marina Granoskavaia, Cech and the rest of that team continue to do what they had been doing successfully for a good few years....
Thank god they have imploded i hate that plastic bunch of prats....
F) Finally a sugar daddy owner that is everyones dream, who puts the club on a sound financial sustainable footing , then invests like crazy in the infrastucture, in order to maximise and prolong
the clubs longevity. He realises that the secret to success is on field trophies, puts the management team in place to deliver that and gives them the cash to do it....
In the meantime making sure that we are the fastest growing most profitable and sustainable team in the world with realistic KPIS like wages to salary ratios etc..........
Oh wait a minute.........
G)As far the latest myth as a prospective buyer from the UAE is concerned
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Al_Quwain
1) they are skint
2) The whole population could fit into the stadium and we would have spare seats....
3 ) ??? WTF
COYS
SirHarryHotspur
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I don't see him going anywhere, he has done two interviews back in Aug/Sept one was the fan forum with Ange Sonny Beth & Robert available on the website the other was with Bloomberg a day later available with an interent search and he talked about building Spurs into a world brand , so he still has a bit to do .
There was also the interview on Premier League stories where he spoke of things to come at the stadium, we have F1 karting and now they are looking to ask Haringey Council to be allow 30 extra events instead of the 16 now allowed, so something is coming , would he leave with all this going on? He still has a project to finish
There was also the interview on Premier League stories where he spoke of things to come at the stadium, we have F1 karting and now they are looking to ask Haringey Council to be allow 30 extra events instead of the 16 now allowed, so something is coming , would he leave with all this going on? He still has a project to finish
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Yes , see what all the moaning fans have done to the poor man
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The thing that stood out for me in this interview, was Levy admitting he made a mistake going for the likes of Mourinho and Conte, as they wouldnt want to promote kids from the academy etc. But then recently you have heard both Ange and Lange say in interviews the Academy has a long way to go, to get up to scratch with others.From the man himself 6:30 into interview
Levy on Tottenham Stake, Kane, Saudi League: Full Interview
Tottenham Hotspur chairman Daniel Levy said he is open to selling a stake in the London football club and admitted it could buy back England captain Harry Kane in the future. Levy also talks about the new manager, Ange Postecoglou, and high-profile players moving to Saudi Arabia. He speaks in an...www.bloomberg.com
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SirHarryHotspur
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He must have known how Mourhino and Conte operate, they like bringing in established players so not sure how sincere his admission of making mistakes is.
To his credit how many other club owners/chairman give these type of interviews .
He has done two Q&A's this one and the fan forum , I don't get any sense of him wanting to move on and this takeover talk so far seems to lack any substance.
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It’s international break so no doubt some rumour will crop up.
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To capitalise on our long-term potential, to continue to invest in the teams and undertake future capital projects, the Club requires a significant increase in its equity base. The Board and its advisors, Rothschild & Co, are in discussions with prospective investors. Any recommended investment proposal would require the support of the Club’s shareholders.
