Tomas Pekhart?

[onlyonekeano]

Personally I haven't the kid play ever so I was just wondering from people who had seen a bit of him - is he that far away from being ready for the first team, that even in our current striker crisis, he wasn't even worth a place on the bench?

It does make you wonder what the point of having a reserve team is if we go into a match with 1 out of 18 players capable of playing as a striker. It was particularly striking today in contrast to a Sunderland bench that included Cisse, Healy, Chopra and Stokes.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

No idea, can only assume he's not good enough since he went to the training camp in spain but hasn't got near the first team since.

Who knows what we would have done today if bent got injured. Couldn't have gone much worse anyway.

 

[speccy_spur]

Would have thought it would be useful to have a second striker out there no matter how inexperienced (or distracted by ManUSA corp) at the moment. The team looks like it cannot function correctly without two up front, and at least it would give the opposition defenders a distraction to stop them triple-teaming Bent like today.

 

[Rupstoh]

How dare you!

27 posts - change your name man!!!

 

[dontcallme]

Unfortunately haven't seen him play first hand so can't give a well inofrmed opinion but from what I've read from various sources is he displays an obvious amount of quality but because of his tall, slender build he will very likely get pushed around in the Prem. As a result many think he won't make an impact until later in his career much like Peter Crouch did.

 

[Marauder]

I don't think bloody Pekhart is the answer to our crisis upfront!

With all due respect, of course...

We've got/had world class upfront but the moneymen have played their hand and what a disastrous one it has turned out to be.

 

[hughy]

If we don't have another striker signed up by then, would it be the worst decision in the world to put Pekhart on the bench against Chelsk? Even if he just comes on for 30 minutes and becomes a target man if we're getting no joy with what looks like it'll be 5 midfielders and Bent again. I know he's not proven, but neither was Barnard when we threw him on against United a few years back. I know he didn't quite make the expected impact, but at least it shows Ramos has faith in our extended squad.

 

[catesy2018]

I'm sure I read hes going on loan to Plymouth or Southampton. May have dreamed that though.

 

[There's always next year]

Taarabt would do a better job than Pekhart. He is probably more effective than Bent, whose absolute pony.

 

[maltahotspur]

Neither Pehart nor Taarabt have been given squad numbers, so I reckon they are not rated good enough by Ramos.... just as yet anyway.

 

[Kendall]

Taarabt would do a better job than Pekhart. He is probably more effective than Bent, whose absolute pony.

Haha yes, Taarabt has looked brilliant. NOT

Why do you think he hasn't even got a squad number? because like myself and probably only Stoof and SS57 have said on here, he's clearly not good enough. His passing is terrible, his shooting is terrible and he can't tackle, plays with his head down and does too many stepovers.

 

[Krafty]

I was surprised Pekhart wasnt on the bench yesterday, especially as Berbatov wasnt.

Gilberto, O'Hara, Huddlestone, dos Santos, Dawson, Gunter - A lot of players that are like for like replacements. Pekhart gives you something different, a target man, a focla point, someone Bent can run off and will occupy the centre backs.

I dont know why Gilberto is there when we have BAE and Bale, who can cover left back, O'Hara, Bale and dos Santos who can play left wing.

What was the point of us asking for 7 subs if we are going to have players who only offer us the same option as others on the pitch and bench?

 

[Stoof]

I know the thread-starter is not championning the idea - but just before any dares to - this guy is just about good enough for our Reserves. Just about.

I'm not surprised at all that he's nowhere near the team.

 

[DJS]

Taarabt would do a better job than Pekhart. He is probably more effective than Bent, whose absolute pony.

More effective than Bent??? Nah don't think so.

Taarabt was absolute horse shit against Orient and we only started outplaying them really when Dos Santos replaced him (which I was crying out for due to Taarabt being so absolutely poor...).

Nothing I have seen of Taarabt has impressed me, I mean where does he even play???

 

[jondesouza]

I really do think that not having Pekhart (or Barcham) on the bench against Sunderland yesterday was an utterly ridiculous decision from Ramos and the sort of thing that Jol got castigated for.

If you're going to start with 1 up front then you HAVE to have two front players as substitutes so that you can change things around and pull off the lone front man who will likely be knackered after 70-75 minutes. We had one player on the bench in Giovani that can play off a front man but who could never really be described as a striker.

We had three specialist left-backs in the 18 and only one striker. Utterly stupid. It would have been far better to have an out and out striker whether it was Pekhart, Barcham or Berbatov. I think we've all seen that the other option - players out of position - is a pretty poor alternative.

And whoever said Taarabt - not an out and out striker and no point having him and Giovani on the bench. They play similar roles and Dos Santos is simply the better player.

 

[nidge]

How dare you!

27 posts - change your name man!!!

Check his join date. Dec 2004

That's when he choose his name. :roll:

 

[tRiKS]

I do find it odd that Poyet admitted Ramos wants to play 2 upfront but didn't even have Pekhard or any other reserve forward on the bench let alone in the strating XI. Moyes didn't sacrifice his prefered team shape to play other first team pro's . he put in 2 u18 reserves so he could play they way he wanted... and won btw. I don'tbelevie for on minute everton have a significantly better crop of u18 and u17 players than us.

With all the things going on with Spurs at the moment why compound the negative issues casued by our transition by playing an alien formation on top of all the other shit?!?

 

[jondesouza]

I do find it odd that Poyet admitted Ramos wants to play 2 upfront but didn't even have Pekhard or any other reserve forward on the bench let alone in the strating XI. Moyes didn't sacrifice his prefered team shape to play other first team pro's . he put in 2 u18 reserves so he could play they way he wanted... and won btw. I don'tbelevie for on minute everton have a significantly better crop of u18 and u17 players than us.

With all the things going on with Spurs at the moment why compound the negative issues casued by our transition by playing an alien formation on top of all the other shit?!?

Exactly. You choose a formation and apply the best available players to it rather than try to shoehorn your best players into an XI (a la Gerrard and Lampard for England). If the preferred formation is 4-2-3-1, great. But in that case you have to have the correct choice of player on the bench.

 

[tRiKS]

Exactly. You choose a formation and apply the best available players to it rather than try to shoehorn your best players into an XI (a la Gerrard and Lampard for England). If the preferred formation is 4-2-3-1, great. But in that case you have to have the correct choice of player on the bench.

There are many that look at it from the other perspective of course that Lennon is better than Pekhard so any team and foramtion that includes him rather than calling on the young CF is better. You'll get no oppsotion from me if you think that way in a head to head.
But consdeir this. Even if Pehard is terrible IF by playing him it makes the other 10 spuerstatrs pay betyter than they would in an unsuitable fromation then it's worth it. If modirc is twice as good playing in a 442 as he was in the 451 then the value of playing the wooden beanpole far outweighs not playing him. If pekahrd has a stinker but bent scores 2 becasue only one CB picks him up rather than both it's worth it.

I would also wager having pekhard on the field would simplify other players choices over how much responsibility they have to make things happen. "he's young/inexpericend/limited, so i better do this and that or work harder at this" For the people that think i'm overplaying the psycology of it then you only have to look at the affect going down to 10 men can have on a team.

 

[milkman]

If I was Ramos I would have a go at Berba and tell him to buck his ideas up.. I would say if he doesn't play with all his effort in training then he will not play on Sunday... and if he plays with a bad attitude then tell him that he won't be sold....