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mattstev2000

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Yup I have indeed, I dont see how that effects getting drubbed 5-0 at home to Liverpool with not a single attempt on goal. Our overall play is going backwrds instead of improving, its just my opinion.

You dont think our makeshift defence and Sandro being injured within 30 mins had anything to do with the drubbing?
 

Lennon1981

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It's that weird mix of apprehension and excitement that comes from a gamble. It could be the worst thing that has ever happened to us, or the best thing that has ever happened to us. We could slip down further mid table, or put together a few windsand be right back I'm there, maybe with a trophy.

Success is nice but what I post to see is a great game of football and the thing I'm looking forward to most is getting a manager that understands watching football is supposed to be enjoyable.

This made me chuckle
 

Donki

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You dont think our makeshift defence and Sandro being injured within 30 mins had anything to do with the drubbing?

5-0 at home is an absolute disaster there didnt seem to be any change in tactics to change what was happeneing on the pitch. Yes we have injuries but does that mean we should expect this kind of display every time we play a rival?
 

worcestersauce

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I'd get excited but I'm afraid I'm just all excited out, I've been here six times in the last ten years and so I'll leave excited for those younger and less unimpressed than me.
 

WiganSpur

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I cannot get excited. I really thought this was it and the board would let him have time.

2 seasons and they ditch him.

Same old same old and we will never learn.
I'd agree in most cases but I don't think this was just a knee-jerk reaction to a few embarrassing defeats and a turgid style of play. I think Levy was prepared to give him a fair amount of time but it was more to do with the tensions between the two parties and the different directions they wanted the club to go in.

It's clear that our strategy generally is to develop an exciting style of play and signing young players with resale value. From what we hear AVB wanted the DoF but then wasn't flexible enough to get the best out of what he was given. It seemed as though he could only succeed with the likes of Hulk, Moutinho, Fernandinho, Willian etc. who the club couldn't afford.

In this case, it wasn't that he didn't get enough time, it's that he appeared to have been the wrong appointment in the first place. The board will give time to a manager that is willing to trust Baldini/Sherwood's decision making and can get the best out of the players at his disposal, rather than demand a very specific set of players for his preferred system. I'm convinced of that.
 

SpursNick73

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I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.


I agree and feel pretty much the same. For me, I will support Tottenham Hotspur FC and will support any player who wears the shirt - that's it. No more getting attached to players or pipe dreams only to be let down.
 

JonnySpurs

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I think the OP is bang on but thats because I try to live my life in a positive way and whilst I am a realist and I worry about lots of things, I always try to find a positive slant on situations where I think that's an option.

I guess it all depends on whether you are similar to me and the original poster or if you're not. Everybody is different but personally I have spent too many weekends down in the dumps after we have been beaten because lately I haven't even had the option of the positive slant. When we've lost it's been pretty horrible and humiliating and when we've won it really hasn't been with any style or flair.

As many others have said, I stopped enjoying watching us under AVB and so for me thats the worst thing that a manager of a club can ever do, sucking the enjoyment out of it is something I can't tolerate so the win percentage AVB carried really doesn't mean a massive amount to me. That will anger and irritate plenty but I'm really not supporting Spurs for the glory, I'm supporting them because I believe I was meant to and because I love the club and what it stands for.
 

stevenurse

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I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.

I couldn't agree any more. 100% on the button. But then if we are not going to be emotionally attached and enjoy the game for what it is, then surely entertaining football is what we can ask for. That was almost my point, we kept getting emotionally satisfied with a 1-0 against hull because of a penalty because we won, but was it worth the time watching it?
 

alpha

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I don't think it's a time to be particularly excited to be honest, there are fundamental problems deeply ingrained in the club and the squad which will take some time and pain to resolve. Just getting a new coach is not going to change everything for the better automatically.

To be frank I've decided to take a bit of a step back emotionally with Spurs. It happened at the end of last season when we yet again missed out on the Champion's League. I realised I was just done with feeling the pain of caring so much every season, and the realisation when Bale scored the winner in the final game that he would be gone either last summer or next, but that we would never hold on to him. I realised that it quite honestly wasn't healthy getting so wound up by football so regularly, even if there were a few brilliant highs before the inevitable failure every season.

Football's not the same game it was when we started this 'project', this improvement we've seen in us as a club over the last ten years or so. The Chelsea's and City's have just left me so disillusioned with the game that I find it hard to get excited these days - at the back of my mind I think I know for a fact that even if we did manage to push someone out of the top four and get ourselves back in there, we wouldn't be able to make it a long term thing. Someone would spend £250m (like Chelsea did when they finished 6th) and make sure we get pushed out again. Some ref somewhere would find some way to give Arsenal just the right amount of penalties they need to beat us to 4th on goal difference, or some Arab would buy Preston NE and spend £20 billion getting them from nowhere to the top of the PL.

I just don't think football is worth the emotional investment I used to give it, and while I'll still be just as interested in everything about the game and Spurs as before, I definitely don't and won't care as much as I used to. Much better to be a step back from it all and try and just enjoy what you can about the game instead.

Ditto. On the grand scheme of things certain things in life are more important.
 

Ossie'sAardvark

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And how would our very inconsistent left back being back in the fold have stopped Dawson, Capoue and Holtby being schooled by Suarez every few minutes?
He'd have coped a lot better than Naughton. But that's why I wrote "major reason". I thought getting rid of AVB now was a stupid move, we should have waited till end of season/WC when a clearer picture of who's available and for what "reasonable price" came. But as for the bloke himself, I'm not sad to see him go.
 

Josiebyar

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Yup I have indeed, I dont see how that effects getting drubbed 5-0 at home to Liverpool with not a single attempt on goal. Our overall play is going backwrds instead of improving, its just my opinion.

ok people fail to mention that we did get a player sent off with 30 mins to go when we actually had the upper hand in the game...and that 3 of the 5 goals came after that sending off.....
 

Donki

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ok peopel fail to mention that we did get a player sent off with 30 mins to go when we actually had the upper hand in the game...and that 3 of the 5 goals came after that sending off.....

How can we have the upper hand in a game where we failed to kick the ball in the direction of the net that would cound as a shoot? Were obviously gonna disagree here, I thought the hole performance was a fucking disgrace.
 

dontcallme

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I think the OP is bang on but thats because I try to live my life in a positive way and whilst I am a realist and I worry about lots of things, I always try to find a positive slant on situations where I think that's an option.

I guess it all depends on whether you are similar to me and the original poster or if you're not. Everybody is different but personally I have spent too many weekends down in the dumps after we have been beaten because lately I haven't even had the option of the positive slant. When we've lost it's been pretty horrible and humiliating and when we've won it really hasn't been with any style or flair.

As many others have said, I stopped enjoying watching us under AVB and so for me thats the worst thing that a manager of a club can ever do, sucking the enjoyment out of it is something I can't tolerate so the win percentage AVB carried really doesn't mean a massive amount to me. That will anger and irritate plenty but I'm really not supporting Spurs for the glory, I'm supporting them because I believe I was meant to and because I love the club and what it stands for.

I'm generally an optimist.

The problem with the OP is he only seems optimistic at the fact we have sacked a failing manager. I understand that thought process.

I've seen us be rubbish for over a decade but with such a talented squad I was struggling to enjoy watching us play.

But to be excited I need a reason. We have no manager or plan in place. Sacking a manager is not reason enough to feel excitement, relief maybe.
 
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