Roynie
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I would have thought you meant "..... absolves us". To admonish is to tell someone off, I guess it's bloody predictive text again!
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I would have thought you meant "..... absolves us". To admonish is to tell someone off, I guess it's bloody predictive text again!
Spurslove
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I would have thought you meant "..... absolves us". To admonish is to tell someone off, I guess it's bloody predictive text again!
Yes, Goddammit
Spurslove
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IS THERE ANYBODY HERE CALLED DONALD???? ??
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Ok, Harry Hill has just creased me at my desk...
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Do you believe there's a significant difference?
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One's about religion, the other is about skin colour/where someone is from, right? Each has it's own unique educational problems.
What happens at this hypothetical meeting, I wonder, when a Jewish chap doesn't like the black fellas, or the staunch Catholic dude of African descent has a problem with the Jewish faith?
Its this implication that because they're both prejudices then they should somehow band together. I don't like the mentality of bolstering the numbers on one side, increasing the us v them dynamic. As opposed to just all people rejecting these segregationist attitudes.
There's something subversive in it.
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No, antisemitism isn't really about religion. Otherwise atheist Jews wouldn't be persecuted or discriminated against as Jews.
Both antisemitism and "racial" prejudice are about people being defined by others according to the qualities (features) that the persecuting group alone decides are important and sufficient reasons to discriminate.
So it may be skin colour or it may be where you were born or the culture you were born into; it doesn't really matter because they are all types of irrational and indefensible prejudice.
I believe that trying to distinguish between prejudices of this type them lends them a specious kind of legitimacy, by suggesting (admittedly inadvertently) that there is such a thing as race, and such a thing as "Jewishness" even when the individual concerned doesn't practice any religion, or the person with dark skin has no wish to be identified by his skin colour.
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I think that this is kind of what I was getting at, and not articulating myself well enough. I don't like the grouping of people, the segregation, in this manner. Its half the problem.
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Technically speaking we should be chanting "Scottish Presbyterian Academy Army" as some the boys who founded us went to Mr Cameron's St John's Middle Class School in the High Rd , but it's bit of mouthful ( I always thought we were better than the working classes)
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Dictionary includes Spurs fans in Yid definition
Often used against Jewish people as an offensive term, it can now also mean a Tottenham fan, the OED says.
www.bbc.co.uk
offishul
YID AAAAAARRRRRMY!
SpunkyBackpack
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Before you get too far ahead in arranging the open top bus parade you do know that the dictionary isnt the decider on whether words are offensive or not, it just lists them.
If you start an argument with "well its in the dictionary now" it will hold the same weight as the sort of people who always like to bring up that the swaztika is "actually originally a Hindu symbol of peace you know". No im not comparing the two, just how the two arguments hold the same value.
If it hurt people before it will still hurt people today, only you can use it in scrabble now.
If you start an argument with "well its in the dictionary now" it will hold the same weight as the sort of people who always like to bring up that the swaztika is "actually originally a Hindu symbol of peace you know". No im not comparing the two, just how the two arguments hold the same value.
If it hurt people before it will still hurt people today, only you can use it in scrabble now.
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Why? The Jewish connection has absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the club.Technically speaking we should be chanting "Scottish Presbyterian Academy Army" as some the boys who founded us went to Mr Cameron's St John's Middle Class School in the High Rd , but it's bit of mouthful ( I always thought we were better than the working classes)
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Interesting that it's now in the OED as one definition of the word but as they say they reflect usage they don't absolve usage. This is an odd one for me as when I started going to games it never existed and I never say I'm a Yid, if someone asks me if I am one because I'm showing my colours I'll answer in the affirmative but I always say I'm a Spurs fan. We all know the reason for it coming from West ham & Chelsea fans abuse and us appropriating it which does change it but I am reserved on it. Mind you I appreciate that two generations of fans have grown up with it so do identify with no malice intended.
I guess the importance of it's inclusion in the OED recognises that.
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Spurs criticise OED over expanded definition of 'yid'
North London club says entry referring to its fans’ use of term ‘fails to distinguish context’
www.theguardian.com
As a Jew I always thought that it was a good term,a positive term and even amongst Jews Yid was always a positive term.
Some others on the other hand have preceded the word Yid with some charming verbwords. That's more the problem.
Ill go with what the club thinks
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Not sure.
Vertonghen looked shattered against Saints, Aurier is still a liability, Sanchez has problems under the high ball but Tanganga looks a real prospect.
Hope this helps.
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Cannons represent violence, am I justified in demanding that lot down the road no longer use it on their badge? It's a word, it's not an offensive word to anyone but non Spurs fan so it seems. If any Tottenham fans do find it offensive please let me know as it seems like a spanner being thrown in from opposition fans to spoil it for us.
SpunkyBackpack
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Yes a picture of a gun is very much the same as an ethnic slur, great point well done. I'm not offended by it, im not Jewish, but plenty of Jewish people have given legitimate reasons why its a word that shouldn't be chanted by a bunch of football fans who want to say it because they like it. For that reason i dont say it and find it really fucking weird that a load of people get incredibly offended and upset that they have been asked not to shout a specific word at a football match, because for some reason they value their chanting above having something close to compassion for their another human being and a word that means nothing to them other than yay my football team.
But fuck David Baddiel for some reason amirite!
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