The VAR Thread

[Yid-ol]

This is why I’m not in favour of the automated offside. It still judges the millimetre infraction. Which is not what offside is all about.

What is offside about?

 

[Mr Pink]

Dreafully disappointing decision.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Not really the place but I'll add a VAR story - tonight US is playing Brazil - Brazil is awarded a free kick, and a US player is shown a YC.

VAR calls the ref to the monitor - presumably to review for a RC (either dangerous tackle or last man) - in the course of that review - the Ref actually overrules the initial call of a foul, and gives the ball back to the US.


But, of note - US is playing predictably deep - and even a team like Brazil, with creative players at every position, has trouble breaking down a team that sits deep, and stays disciplined.

 

[cwy21]

Not really the place but I'll add a VAR story - tonight US is playing Brazil - Brazil is awarded a free kick, and a US player is shown a YC.

VAR calls the ref to the monitor - presumably to review for a RC (either dangerous tackle or last man) - in the course of that review - the Ref actually overrules the initial call of a foul, and gives the ball back to the US.


But, of note - US is playing predictably deep - and even a team like Brazil, with creative players at every position, has trouble breaking down a team that sits deep, and stays disciplined.

It's correct procedure but certainly a rare one. If it's a foul it's DOGSO and a red. Therefore having the ref come look at it is correct but they can determine that it wasn't a foul in the first place.

 

[Timbo Tottenham]

Not really the place but I'll add a VAR story - tonight US is playing Brazil - Brazil is awarded a free kick, and a US player is shown a YC.

VAR calls the ref to the monitor - presumably to review for a RC (either dangerous tackle or last man) - in the course of that review - the Ref actually overrules the initial call of a foul, and gives the ball back to the US.


But, of note - US is playing predictably deep - and even a team like Brazil, with creative players at every position, has trouble breaking down a team that sits deep, and stays disciplined.

On your side note, they lost heavily to Colombia at the weekend, so probably had a rocket up them to concentrate...

 

[cwy21]

For those of you who dislike VAR, you now have a reason to watch the U20 women's world cup (besides you creeps who watch for the 19 year old women).

It will be trialing the downscaled review system called Video Support (VS). Here's the short of it.

In response, it has developed the VS which, unlike VAR, does not use dedicated Video Match Officials and therefore does not automatically check all match-changing incidents. Instead, the onus falls on the two head coaches who will be allowed to make a limited number of review requests per match when they feel there has been a clear and obvious error in match-changing incidents such as goal/no goal, penalty/no penalty, direct red card or mistaken identity.

Football Video Support to be implemented at FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup Colombia 2024™

Football Video Support (VS), a simplified alternative to the video assistant referee (VAR) system, is to be used on a trial basis at the upcoming FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup™ in Colombia as FIFA continues to lead the use of technology to support referees.

inside.fifa.com

 

[UncleBuck]

For those of you who dislike VAR, you now have a reason to watch the U20 women's world cup (besides you creeps who watch for the 19 year old women).

It will be trialing the downscaled review system called Video Support (VS). Here's the short of it.

Football Video Support to be implemented at FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup Colombia 2024™

Football Video Support (VS), a simplified alternative to the video assistant referee (VAR) system, is to be used on a trial basis at the upcoming FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup™ in Colombia as FIFA continues to lead the use of technology to support referees.

inside.fifa.com

Seriously, down to the coaches to sort it out?
So what do fifa propose, the coaches battle it out with a game of rock, paper, scissors?
Just let the ref get on with reffing for jeffing sake!

 

[cwy21]

Seriously, down to the coaches to sort it out?
So what do fifa propose, the coaches battle it out with a game of rock, paper, scissors?
Just let the ref get on with reffing for jeffing sake!

The coach gets to challenge to have the ref look at it. But there is no video ref so they have to go to the monitor to look at all the camera angles themselves.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

Hopefully the Scandinavian countries can go together against VAR.

Sweden is the only elite league in the UEFA's top 30 not to have VAR. The Norwegian's have seen a big uproar against VAR, probably in part because they've seen how the Swedish league stand against it. This has led to protests like below.

Wouldn't be surprised if Denmark wakes up tomorrow and starts having a serious debate whether they want this in their game.

If it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle for other countries, then I'm just going to enjoy the way we've kept things here in Sweden.

I'm going to see my local team tomorrow. If we score, I'll just glance over to the linesman before erupting in the stands.

 

[Marty]

Now here's a protest. Match abandoned in Norway because of supporters throwing tennis balls and fish cakes on to the pitch to protest against VAR.

 

[carmeldevil]

Now here's a protest. Match abandoned in Norway because of supporters throwing tennis balls and fish cakes on to the pitch to protest against VAR.

oh man.. pity the groundskeepers having to pick up these smelly fish cakes.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

More reasons not to follow the match and just look at your phone.

Premier League launches new innovation for VAR | Tottenham Hotspur

There is a new addition to the VAR process for the 2024/25 to better inform supporters and viewers of the refereeing decisions being taken.

www.tottenhamhotspur.com

 

[easley91]

Why couldn't we just have the refs explain it over the speakers after the decision has been made/reached?

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Why couldn't we just have the refs explain it over the speakers after the decision has been made/reached?

Much too sensible don't they do that in NFL or something like it.

 

[Yid-ol]

Much too sensible don't they do that in NFL or something like it.

Do they not do it in rugby also?

 

[easley91]

Much too sensible don't they do that in NFL or something like it.

Believe so and I'm sure there was a competition or two which trialled it in football (think in the women's game but I honestly can't remember).

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Believe so and I'm sure there was a competition or two which trialled it in football (think in the women's game but I honestly can't remember).

Yes I vaguely remember that in the women's game.
Putting the VAR decisions onto twitter just another distraction for some who are continually on their phones during a match.

 

[SirHarryHotspur]

Do they not do it in rugby also?

I know you hear what the ref says on TV but never having been to a live rugby match not sure if it gets relayed through the stadium speakers to the crowd.

 

[cwy21]

Why couldn't we just have the refs explain it over the speakers after the decision has been made/reached?

A number of leagues have started using it now including MLS where you had the ref semi-troll the home fans.

 

[easley91]

Yes I vaguely remember that in the women's game.
Putting the VAR decisions onto twitter just another distraction for some who are continually on their phones during a match.

They must get better signal than I do. I can never get on long enough to check other scores!