The Transfer Wishlist Thread

[C0YS]

It seems to be the same people rating Hojbjerg who rate Dier as a DM. Mistaking good character for good ability.

To the objective naked eye he just looks very average. Looks slow, OK passer but nothing brilliant, fairly tenacious in spite of looking quite weak physically and that's about it. In terms of use for us he'd be better than Sissoko and that's about it. I can only assume we want to sign him because we think we can improve him somehow, because I just don't see anything special. I don't see the quality.

With all funds directed to DM which should be possible, we can do a lot better imo.

The funny thing is that I do rate an in form Dier (though I see his future as a CB), and I think the DM role is always hard to judge, because a lot of it is what you do without the ball, and I don't necessarily agree that the role requires particular athleticism or anything like that.

Some of the best DM's are not that athletic at all, Busquets, Jorginho, Fabinho, Carrick, Xabi Alonso (at points) and Schweinsteiger are all examples of players who have done that role very well, without being all action hunting down the ball type players. They all interpret that role very differently but the main thing they all share in common is footballing intelligence. There is a reason that Jose called them 'positional midfielders', because that is what a holding midfielder is.

My issue is simply that Hojbjerg seems to be being hyped up to a level which isn't really reflective of his ability. The signing makes perfect sense, for numerous reasons, and I'm not entirely against it, but as I have said before, he is not the solution to our problems. Could contribute, but I wouldn't expect him to be a starter.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Firstly I don’t think we can criticise Southampton fans for getting pissy about a player who expressed an interest in leaving, and then undersell that players talents. The way our fans turned on Eriksen shows we’re no better.
Hojbjerg isn’t the answer at CDM. I can think of countless players I’d prefer. Zakaria/Soumare/ Ndidi/ Roca/Neves to name but a few.
But if you believe the reports that we are skint, and will need to trade to bring players in, it’s easier to see the upside of Hojbjerg.
We can trade KWP, possibly a straight swap. He’ll bring additional solidity and positional sense to a vital area of the pitch. Neither winks nor Sissoko have shown they can play there effectively. Dier has been moved back to CB, and Skipp is still to young to be certain about.
Is he the first choice option? No.
Is it a smart deal given the circumstances? I think so

we can afford none of them...

 

[dtxspurs]

I’ll take hojbjerg over Harry winks any day of the week ? it’s funny the ones not rating hojbjerg seem to love winks lol

I so hope to never see him play defensive mid ever again once this season is over.

 

[ackie]

Holbjerg and / or Neves
Cavani or Giroud

Out of interest who would be better for us or who would you prefer :

Giroud or Cavani

And why?

 

[Deleted member 27995]

This'll cheer @dtxspurs up but in a few of the rumor pages we're being linked to Pau Lopez for £30 million + this morning.

 

[spursfan77]

The Mrs has family who go to Saints games a lot and I've been dragged along, kicking and screaming, more than a few times this season (I loved it when we beat them in the replay).
I really like Hojbjerg and think of him as an intelligent deep lying playmaker who has a great engine, an eye for a tackle and a killer pass in him.
For me he's been Saints best player on numerous occasions this season and last and we'd be getting a bargain if we snap the guy up. I believe he is very ambitious and would get better under Mourinho.
I found some stats which seem to agree my opinion, but stats ever tell the whole picture.

Southampton FC Statistics | Premier League

View the latest comprehensive Southampton FC match stats, along with a season by season archive, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

How Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg would benefit Tottenham Hotspur’s midfield

Southampton’s Danish #23 (!!) has been heavily linked to plug the massive defensive gap in the midfield.

cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com

He may be that, but that’s not what we need.

Ive watched him and Southampton fans I trust have watched him and he’s not right for us. They were gutted about losing Alderweireld and Wanyama to us but not bother about this guy. That says it all to me.

I have the same feeling about him that I had with sissoko before we signed him. Not good enough for us. Plus their fans were delighted to be rid of him.

 

[raymundo-iow]

I know it's the sun and on the sky sports app for paper talk but they are linking us with thiago Silva this morning as he will be leaving psg. He is 35 now but is still a top defender. Would you be happy for a year or 2 deal to be the rock next to davinson and help him get better?

 

[DiVaio]

I know it's the sun and on the sky sports app for paper talk but they are linking us with thiago Silva this morning as he will be leaving psg. He is 35 now but is still a top defender. Would you be happy for a year or 2 deal to be the rock next to davinson and help him get better?

If we want to sign central defender from PSG for free it should be Kouassi not Silva

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Holbjerg and / or Neves
Cavani or Giroud

Out of interest who would be better for us or who would you prefer :

Giroud or Cavani

And why?

Giroud all the way, I could go into reasons why but its pretty self-explanatory.

 

[TheModrix]

Holberg reminds me abit of Carrick. For that reason. I am in.

 

[Timberwolf]

I’ll take hojbjerg over Harry winks any day of the week ? it’s funny the ones not rating hojbjerg seem to love winks lol

I wouldn't say too many people on here don't rate Hojbjerg - it's more that they think he'd be a sensible yet unspectacular signing who is will do a job but is unlikely to take us up a level.

Personally I think he's much more suited to our current needs than Winks (who in my mind should be a squad player at best) but, as many people have already explained in this thread, he's not some special talent who will be our star DM for the next 5 years.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

If we do purchase him (hojbjerg) that'll most likely be our lot unless we shift some players. Whether he is the player we need or not, I don't foresee the spending we probably require for us to genuinely challenge again.

 

[rajmak]

Glenn Hoddle has had his say:

"In the long-term I think they need two new full-backs, I think they need a passer in midfield,"

"A lot of players at Tottenham at the moment, they run with the ball. Too many players don't release the ball quickly.

In regards to Ndombele; he hopes the relationship with Jose isn't completely broken as he believes Tanguy is the kind of player who will be sensational at another club if he left.

 

[WiganSpur]

The Mrs has family who go to Saints games a lot and I've been dragged along, kicking and screaming, more than a few times this season (I loved it when we beat them in the replay).
I really like Hojbjerg and think of him as an intelligent deep lying playmaker who has a great engine, an eye for a tackle and a killer pass in him.
For me he's been Saints best player on numerous occasions this season and last and we'd be getting a bargain if we snap the guy up. I believe he is very ambitious and would get better under Mourinho.
I found some stats which seem to agree my opinion, but stats ever tell the whole picture.

Southampton FC Statistics | Premier League

View the latest comprehensive Southampton FC match stats, along with a season by season archive, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

How Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg would benefit Tottenham Hotspur’s midfield

Southampton’s Danish #23 (!!) has been heavily linked to plug the massive defensive gap in the midfield.

cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com

Very interesting read. I am slightly more convinced than I have been watching some games of him I must say. If Jose does believe he is disciplined enough to play the role then that might signal a switch to more front foot football, with Ndombele, Lo Celso and Alli freed up to attack and press higher up the pitch whilst having confidence their back is covered.

Watching us, it's obvious that we have massive massive problems stopping quick transitions and counters in midfield. The Wolves game was an example of this despite playing some decent football overall.

 

[dontcallme]

If we want to sign central defender from PSG for free it should be Kouassi not Silva

I don't watch much European football so can't comment on him but I have always felt that a few experienced players on short contracts to be really beneficial.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

I don't watch much European football so can't comment on him but I have always felt that a few experienced players on short contracts to be really beneficial.

A couple of experienced heads, winners, I'd agree, shame he is 35, I just don't know if he'd genuinely be able to play in the prem. Maybe those who watch more of the French league have a better view.

 

[Cochise]

I'd rather not bother with Thiago Silva tbh. He's 36 in September and has spent the last 8 years taking Ligue 1 titles at a canter. He'd struggle with the Premier League.

 

[DiVaio]

I don't watch much European football so can't comment on him but I have always felt that a few experienced players on short contracts to be really beneficial.

Jan declined so much in space of 3 months. And Thiago is 2 years older than him, that would be very risky move. And he's not that kind of leader in dressing room as you would think about Ramos for example.

 

[brendanb50]

I don't watch much European football so can't comment on him but I have always felt that a few experienced players on short contracts to be really beneficial.

Agree - gut says that TS doesn't have a couple of seasons at PL level in him but players of this ilk with a bit more longevity on a free could be just what we need.

That leap from competitive to winners is tough, and experience can be a great shortcut. We lacked a bit of this under Poch - a couple of shrewd additions could have changed everything.

 

[rawhide]

I'd rather not bother with Thiago Silva tbh. He's 36 in September and has spent the last 8 years taking Ligue 1 titles at a canter. He'd struggle with the Premier League.

But, but, but... the song.