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yankspurs

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Our squads are certainly comparable. I would still take ours. Chelsea being 7 points ahead of us isn't much of an achievement for them considering the season we've been having [managerial change, most injuries in PL, etc.]

In the first team, I'd say they have a better DM [Kante] and fullbacks than us. I'd still take Kane and Son over Werner and Ziyech.

My combined Chelsea-Spurs XI:

Son Kane Werner
Ndombele Kante GLC
Emerson Sanchez Toby Azpi
Lloris

Kepa and Lloris are both howler machines so pick your poison there.
Not just aiming this at you but this forum in general...

When will you all get it through your heads it is no longer 2017? Serious question. You guys are stuck in the past with some players. Toby has fallen off a cliff harder than Jan and no one seems to want to know it.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Werner would be an exceptional signing for Chelsea. Hasn’t got the skill or brain of Kane, but his pace and composure are made for this league. He’s basically a German Torres.

Ziyech could be great, but 27 years old and moving to a top league for the first time, he’s a big risk. I’m personally happier with the Bergwijn signing.

I’m not overly jealous of any signings other sides make for the final third. In Kane, Son, Lucas, Dele, Bergwijn, Lamela we have everything we need for a top class first choice and depth in a front 3, and happy to throw in Ndombele or Lo Celso as 10s if we continue with a front 4. Only a viable Kane back up (assuming Parrott won’t be trusted yet) is of particular interest to me.

Our surgery is needed at CM, particularly in terms of ball winning/ defence protecting, so if I see our rivals picking up players we could have signed in that part of the pitch for prices we could have paid, and we get nobody, I’ll be stressed out. But final 3rd? I’m really not overly concerned but would like a reserve for Kane, which I think now has to be treated as a specialist position in the same way goalkeeper is.

If we end up looking like this I’ll be happy:

Lloris
NewRB Sanchez Dier NewLB
NewDM
Ndombele Lo Celso
Son ______________ Dele
Kane

NewCF
Bergwijn _____________ Lucas
Winks Sissoko
Skipp
Davies Tanganga Alderweireld Foyth
Gazzaniga

Whiteman Sessegnon Lamela
The only major issue here is that at least one of the new signings would need to be HG, unless we deem one of KWP, Cirkin or Sessegnon as ready to be first choice by the start of next season, or Parrott ready to understudy Kane.
 
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Wig

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I think it would have been embarrassing to go in for Werner and spend all that cash on a very good player but one we don't need.
I don't think it's "embarrassing" to add real quality and depth to the team. Some people on here say Werner wouldn't start for us which I disagree with, but at the least I would say he's an overall upgrade on the likes of Lamela, Moura, Sissoko. Right now we are blessed to have Kane and Son but you continuously have to add to the squad and build for the future... we can't guarantee Kane and Son will be here for many seasons to come nor that they will always be fit to start.
 
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The argument that we don't need him doesn't wash with me - could say the same with all the youth Chelsea have either brought through or signed prior to Werner - they just continue to add talent - this is part of the problem with our '18 window. Strengthen the areas that need it - fine - but don't miss out on chances to add more talent - competition brings out the best in some, pushes others and finds out those not up for the fight.
 
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Not just aiming this at you but this forum in general...

When will you all get it through your heads it is no longer 2017? Serious question. You guys are stuck in the past with some players. Toby has fallen off a cliff harder than Jan and no one seems to want to know it.
I'm with you on this. I still fear we'll struggle at the back once this season restarts ... Nightmare.
 

Gbspurs

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I'm with you on this. I still fear we'll struggle at the back once this season restarts ... Nightmare.

We just need some stability. If Tanganga and Sanchez are the future of our CBs then we need to play them and phase Toby out. Either that or find a replacement.
 
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We just need some stability. If Tanganga and Sanchez are the future of our CBs then we need to play them and phase Toby out. Either that or find a replacement.
Yup, long term replacement at that. Most of the defenders I have seen us linked with recently don't tick any box in this regard. (unless I have missed the younger prospects)
 

Gbspurs

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Yup, long term replacement at that. Most of the defenders I have seen us linked with recently don't tick any box in this regard. (unless I have missed the younger prospects)

Depends on whether we think Dier is good enough there I guess.
 

HildoSpur

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I don't think it's "embarrassing" to add real quality and depth to the team. Some people on here say Werner wouldn't start for us which I disagree with, but at the least I would say he's an overall upgrade on the likes of Lamela, Moura, Sissoko. Right now we are blessed to have Kane and Son but you continuously have to add to the squad and build for the future... we can't guarantee Kane and Son will be here for many seasons to come nor that they will always be fit to start.

We don't have the sort of money to spend when compared with Liverpool, Utd, Chelsea etc. so we can't afford to be spending £50 million+ on a player that will just add depth to the squad - we clearly need to spend money on several positions in the squad on players who can come straight in and replace what we have or fill a gaping hole (defensive midfield). Werner would be lovely but he is not priority right now and I'd be much happier seeing us spend big on positions we actually need.
 

feet01

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Tbf Dier was probably our best cb for the few games he played towards the end. Never stopped shouting at those around him. Think with a good preseason behind him getting coached in the role by Jose and it might just save us a bit of money to spend on a player we desperately need, a midfielder to protect he defence. Too many times this season players have just been running directly at our cb’s
 

razzmaster

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We just need some stability. If Tanganga and Sanchez are the future of our CBs then we need to play them and phase Toby out. Either that or find a replacement.

Any centre back pairing will struggle with Aurier playing as a right midfielder, no recognised dm and no specialist left back for large parts of the season

Unless we address these issues then I don't think it matters who plays centre back.

For me we need a right back who can get up and down the pitch better than Aurier. (Aarons would be my preference)

At left back I would like to see Sessegnon coached into that role as I still believe he has huge potential but not as a winger.

Dier, Toby, Sanchez and Tanganga to fight it out at centre back.

We also need a DM to sit in front of the back 4 and drop in if needed (Camavinga would be ideal)

This would give us a potential front 5 of Ndombele, Lo Celso, Son, Bergwijn and Kane which would be scary when fit and firing.

If we could offload a few players and bring in Eze and Edouard/Watkins then I think we would finally have a young, exciting and balanced squad again.

Only 4 new players which doesn't seem too much to ask.
 

Cochise

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Seems like Chelsea are going to profit the most from the Covid 19 outbreak. Ziyech in January and now Werner are amazing players in their prime who will improve their starting XI immediately.

It's actually quite sickening and is compounded by the fact that we are at the opposite end of the spectrum. We have no money, lot of debt that we have no way of really financing because of the loss of sporting events and concerts at the new stadium and still no naming rights deal.

The recent period of squad stagnation is going to take at least 3-4 years to overturn as we wait for those above us to drop off. I know that sounds drastic, but with the financial world what it is right now and our stadium no longer paying for itself, we are going to have to buy smart and be patient.
 

HildoSpur

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Seems like Chelsea are going to profit the most from the Covid 19 outbreak. Ziyech in January and now Werner are amazing players in their prime who will improve their starting XI immediately.

It's actually quite sickening and is compounded by the fact that we are at the opposite end of the spectrum. We have no money, lot of debt that we have no way of really financing because of the loss of sporting events and concerts at the new stadium and still no naming rights deal.

The recent period of squad stagnation is going to take at least 3-4 years to overturn as we wait for those above us to drop off. I know that sounds drastic, but with the financial world what it is right now and our stadium no longer paying for itself, we are going to have to buy smart and be patient.

I'd still rather have our attacking options than theirs - we only need a couple of players in key positions to get the team working properly and then we will be right up there.
 

Cochise

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I'd still rather have our attacking options than theirs - we only need a couple of players in key positions to get the team working properly and then we will be right up there.

Not sure I can agree with you after those two new additions. Ziyech and Werner are top notch players, whilst we only have Son in that category at the moment. Mount is outperforming Dele atm, Hudson-Odio and Bergwijn are at similar levels and there is little to choose between Pedro, Pulisic, Moura and Lamela. They also have a backup striker and whilst Kane is better than Abraham, the latter has years ahead of him and is improving.

There is also longevity to consider. Son and Kane are both entering the latter years of their prime and whilst Ziyech is also in that bracket, that still leaves Chelsea with Abraham, Werner, Pulisic, Mount and Hudson Odoi with years of their best to come. We have Dele and Bergwijn.
 

Dirtysanchez6

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Name six right backs that are better going forward.

Many are eager to criticise Aurier and a lot of it is justified but a lot of it goes way beyond that to the extent that others in the team get a pass for not doing their jobs properly.

The last time the attackers consistently showed any desire in the penalty area was the last season at White Hart Lane.

TAA would not be as good as he is if the Liverpool forwards were statues in the area.
TAA .....
Name six right backs that are better going forward.

Many are eager to criticise Aurier and a lot of it is justified but a lot of it goes way beyond that to the extent that others in the team get a pass for not doing their jobs properly.

The last time the attackers consistently showed any desire in the penalty area was the last season at White Hart Lane.

TAA would not be as good as he is if the Liverpool forwards were statues in the area.
TAA .... James .... Doherty.... Aaron’s .... Walker .... Cancelo .... bellerin..... Schelotto..... Ricardo ! That’s just of the top of my head all better going forward and more consistent in doing so! Also attacking is only one part of the job defensively you could name about 20 better ! But anyway yeah there you go ?
 

tobi

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TAA .....

TAA .... James .... Doherty.... Aaron’s .... Walker .... Cancelo .... bellerin..... Schelotto..... Ricardo ! That’s just of the top of my head all better going forward and more consistent in doing so! Also attacking is only one part of the job defensively you could name about 20 better ! But anyway yeah there you go ?

IMO you named five that are better and they all benefit from better to excellent movement from their attackers.

I feel like I'm just repeating myself because I've raised this issue many times. The attackers are a big reason why the team doesn't score enough from crossing situations because they don't move enough. They make life so easy for defenders and they deserve the same amount of blame as Aurier.

We can all agree that Aurier is a bad defender, a replacement for him will only be an upgrade if the attackers do their bit.
 

WiganSpur

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Chelsea going to close the gap to Liverpool city massively this window. Werner Ziyech great business
If other clubs continue to invest in spite of Coronavirus there's going to be a lot of pressure on Levy to follow suit. Surely he should know more than anybody now that underinvestment can be as dangerous as over-investment.
 

Japhet

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If other clubs continue to invest in spite of Coronavirus there's going to be a lot of pressure on Levy to follow suit. Surely he should know more than anybody now that underinvestment can be as dangerous as over-investment.

Water off a duck's back mate. He sold Keane and Berbatov and we got Fraizer Campbell FFS and he also spent zero for 18 months. Don't see him being pressured into anything personally.
 

WiganSpur

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If Chelsea get Werner and we get Osimhen I won't be too fussed but they'll get quality and we'll get Jack Shit lol
The Athletic are saying our funds are sell to buy. Can't see us paying a decent fee for Osimhen if that's the case. Best we can expect is to feed off a few scraps in the market so that we at least have some squad depth.
 

DiVaio

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Ziyech and Werner are top notch players, whilst we only have Son in that category at the moment.
If you said Ziyech is top notch Bergwijn should be there where he has very,very similar stats in Eredivisie in worse team. And he already showed in PL that he's good. Also add Kane to that category.

Mount is outperforming Dele atm

He isn't.
 
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