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thekneaf

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Looking at overall revenue, Man U coin over £500m/year. Last year we reported £460m including an £85m contribution from the CL run to the final. Our matchday is £100-£120m so about 25-30% of our revenue. The other events bring in about £2-3m each including the NFL games.
But do we have figures on just match day? I agree as the figures back up that they're a hugely profitable commercial machine, but isn't a lot of that non match day stuff based on their huge global supporter base?
 

pedrodelawasp

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The match highlights of our 4-0 win over West Brom (could/should have been 8 or 9) that was shared on the club's SM accounts reminded me that we effectively played at that point a 3-4-2-1 formation:

--------------------Lloris
---------Toby -----Dier ----Vertonghen
Walker --Wanyama-- Dembele ------Rose
----------Eriksen -----------Dele
--------------------Kane

Obviously 5 of those players aren't here anymore (well, Rose probably won't be) and it no longer really plays to our strengths/doesn't cover our weak points. I think it does really highlight the need for strengthening at fullback and a really commanding midfielder.

Man, when that line-up clicked we played some great stuff. High tempo, commanding, so many chances being created. We really were so close to being quite special.
 

TEESSIDE1

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The match highlights of our 4-0 win over West Brom (could/should have been 8 or 9) that was shared on the club's SM accounts reminded me that we effectively played at that point a 3-4-2-1 formation:

--------------------Lloris
---------Toby -----Dier ----Vertonghen
Walker --Wanyama-- Dembele ------Rose
----------Eriksen -----------Dele
--------------------Kane

Obviously 5 of those players aren't here anymore (well, Rose probably won't be) and it no longer really plays to our strengths/doesn't cover our weak points. I think it does really highlight the need for strengthening at fullback and a really commanding midfielder.

Man, when that line-up clicked we played some great stuff. High tempo, commanding, so many chances being created. We really were so close to being quite special.

With a new RWB we could play a similar formation again.

.................................. Lloris .....................................
............. Sanchez... Alderweireld... Tanganga .........
New RWB... Lo Celso.... Ndombele .... Sessegnon
............... Bergwijn .... Kane ...... Son .....................

To replicate the original formation we would need a RWB, combative central midfield and an attacking central midfielder unless we push Lo Celso further forward. Finances aside Coutinho would be ideal.
 
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With a new RWB we could play a similar formation again.

.................................. Lloris .....................................
............. Sanchez... Alderweireld... Tanganga .........
New RWB... Lo Celso.... Ndombele .... Sessegnon
............... Bergwijn .... Kane ...... Son .....................

To replicate the original formation we would need a RWB, combative central midfield and an attacking central midfielder unless we push Lo Celso further forward. Finances aside Coutinho would be ideal.
Perhaps Sissoko could do it
 

Johno1470

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Perhaps Sissoko could do it

Our issue since Walker left us is having brain dead full backs on that right side that can’t defend. We need someone who can defend first and foremost. I’m sick of having full backs that are decent at attacking but neglect their main duty which is being able to defend. Sissoko would be disastrous defending in 1v1’s at the edge of the box. Remember the CL final giving away a stupid pen?
 

brendanb50

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Perhaps Sissoko could do it

I think the template for a WB in a modern, attacking team is more in the mould of what you see at Liverpool - Robertson and TAA are probably slightly better in attack than defence if anything but the cover the team provides them allows them to overload the flanks and stretch the opposition as well as get into dangerous areas for crosses.

I don't think Sissoko has the delivery to play this role but he does have the energy to be a difficult runner to track.

For me, with the right defensive cover, both at CB and DM, Aurier is actually our best fit for this type of play but he can clearly be upgraded. His crossing from deep is good but he struggles to go to the byline and his running and general play lacks intelligence (sanity) at times.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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While it’s completely reasonable to not expect the club to spend big money this window, it’s clear that there will be many clubs in much more serious financial difficulties than us. This is where Levy will absolutely be ruthless in picking off targets belonging to struggling clubs who’ve overspent in relation to this new Covid world we’re in. We’re not spending big, but we’re not required now to do so.

Frankly it’s just a matter of weeks before EA release their FIFA 20 Daniel Levy 2008-09 Flashback card
 

fronyl

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With a new RWB we could play a similar formation again.

.................................. Lloris .....................................
............. Sanchez... Alderweireld... Tanganga .........
New RWB... Lo Celso.... Ndombele .... Sessegnon
............... Bergwijn .... Kane ...... Son .....................

To replicate the original formation we would need a RWB, combative central midfield and an attacking central midfielder unless we push Lo Celso further forward. Finances aside Coutinho would be ideal.
Disagreeing simply because Wanyama and Dembele was a lot better defending. To get the best out of Lo Celso and Ndombele we would probably need a defensive midfielder behind them, ergo a 433 formation
 

dontcallme

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With a new RWB we could play a similar formation again.

.................................. Lloris .....................................
............. Sanchez... Alderweireld... Tanganga .........
New RWB... Lo Celso.... Ndombele .... Sessegnon
............... Bergwijn .... Kane ...... Son .....................

To replicate the original formation we would need a RWB, combative central midfield and an attacking central midfielder unless we push Lo Celso further forward. Finances aside Coutinho would be ideal.
Dier appeared to find his place in a back 3 partly operating as a DM depending on the match situation. Put him in and get him and get him back form and that could work.
 

TEESSIDE1

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Dier appeared to find his place in a back 3 partly operating as a DM depending on the match situation. Put him in and get him and get him back form and that could work.

I’ve mixed feelings re Dier as he’s lost what little pace he had when we 1st signed him meaning you can’t just rely on kicking people in central midfield anymore. He was however doing reasonably well at centre back prior to the lockdown. I feel we need more ‘legs’ in central midfield than Dier can offer these days. Defensively, he’s a competent option but for a 352 to work we also need legs at the back which for me = Toby (our best defender), Sanchez and Tanganga. Dier’s still got a role play but I see him as a squad player these days. There’s also his FA charge and whatever penalty they decide to impose... we could be without him for quite some time.
 

pedrodelawasp

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Disagreeing simply because Wanyama and Dembele was a lot better defending. To get the best out of Lo Celso and Ndombele we would probably need a defensive midfielder behind them, ergo a 433 formation

Yeah, without having the utter units like peak Wanyama and Dembele there's a definite need for a dedicated CDM in there. Lo Celso has the tenacity but not the physical presence. Ndombele could get there in terms of physique if he puts the work in, but his natural game is still going to be more forward thinking.

What would be interesting to see would be who would emerge as the preferred attacking players around Kane. I can imagine GLC and Alli as inverted AMs behind Kane if we were playing with wing backs or Son and Bergwijn flanking Harry in a 4-3-3.

-----------------------Lloris
-----Sanchez ---Alderweireld ---- Tanganga
Aurier ---------DM? --------Ndombele ---Sessegnon
------------GLC ----------------Alli
------------------------Kane

Or:

----------------------Lloris
Aurier------Sanchez---Alderweireld---Tanganga
----------------------DM?
----------GLC-----------------Ndombele
-Bergwijn------------Kane----------------Son

Who knows, maybe in the wild, post-lockdown world Tanguy will have become Dembele Mk2 and Gedson will have filled out and readied himself for the Wanyama role! :whistle:
 

BringBack_leGin

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While it’s completely reasonable to not expect the club to spend big money this window, it’s clear that there will be many clubs in much more serious financial difficulties than us. This is where Levy will absolutely be ruthless in picking off targets belonging to struggling clubs who’ve overspent in relation to this new Covid world we’re in. We’re not spending big, but we’re not required now to do so.

Frankly it’s just a matter of weeks before EA release their FIFA 20 Daniel Levy 2008-09 Flashback card
I hope you’re right. Kanoute, Keane, Defoe, Lennon, Robinson, Carrick, basically the kickstart to our rise from mid table mediocrity came from Levy taking advantage of the football financial crisis of the first half decade of the century. All for about the same as Chelsea paid for Shaun Wright Phillips.

Then of course was Bale for £5m up front and £2m more instead of the full instalment plan when Saints were in the shit.
 

Montalbano

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Yeah, without having the utter units like peak Wanyama and Dembele there's a definite need for a dedicated CDM in there. Lo Celso has the tenacity but not the physical presence. Ndombele could get there in terms of physique if he puts the work in, but his natural game is still going to be more forward thinking.

What would be interesting to see would be who would emerge as the preferred attacking players around Kane. I can imagine GLC and Alli as inverted AMs behind Kane if we were playing with wing backs or Son and Bergwijn flanking Harry in a 4-3-3.

-----------------------Lloris
-----Sanchez ---Alderweireld ---- Tanganga
Aurier ---------DM? --------Ndombele ---Sessegnon
------------GLC ----------------Alli
------------------------Kane

Or:

----------------------Lloris
Aurier------Sanchez---Alderweireld---Tanganga
----------------------DM?
----------GLC-----------------Ndombele
-Bergwijn------------Kane----------------Son

Who knows, maybe in the wild, post-lockdown world Tanguy will have become Dembele Mk2 and Gedson will have filled out and readied himself for the Wanyama role! :whistle:
With Lo Celso and a fit & firing Ndombele (hopefully) I'm guessing we'll utilize a 3 man midfield of some sort.

I could see us going 4-3-3 with Dele being a roaming attacker, which might ultimately somewhat emulate Poch's diamond in play — especially if we manage to upgrade our fullbacks. Bergwijn could slot in and play the same role (he thrived in a central position for PSV this season)

----------------------Lloris
RB------Sanchez---Alderweireld---LB
----------------------Winks
----------GLC-----------------Ndombele
-----------------------Dele
----------Kane----------------Son
 
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pedrodelawasp

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Maybe Jose could emulate my success on Fifa Career Mode. While managing Spurs I also took on the Netherlands job and won the Euros playing Bergwijn at RWB!
 

Japhet

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Just don't see where Dele fits in this team without Eriksen.

I don't see where Dele fits in in all sorts of scenarios. Unless you constantly re-jig the team around him we always seem to be weakened in a key area to fit him in. We really need 3 in midfield with GLC and Ndombele but then you get a lopsided front line if Dele wants to tuck in. He's too risky playing deeper unless we can totally boss the MF. The other option is to push a FB up the pitch but that always leaves us unbalanced at the back.
 

brendanb50

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I don't see where Dele fits in in all sorts of scenarios. Unless you constantly re-jig the team around him we always seem to be weakened in a key area to fit him in. We really need 3 in midfield with GLC and Ndombele but then you get a lopsided front line if Dele wants to tuck in. He's too risky playing deeper unless we can totally boss the MF. The other option is to push a FB up the pitch but that always leaves us unbalanced at the back.

All about opposition, home vs. away and where we strengthen.

I think most good teams have a degree of adaptability and movement in their line-ups. Players who can tuck in, create space, stretch the opposition midfield and backline. To do that though you need some disciplined/intelligent players to balance out that freedom to move out of position.

Defensively we've been inconsistent and we've had zero cover from midfield this season - both elements inhibit our ability to be flexible in attack and allow for that freedom in our attacking players. Aurier has basically been turned into an attacking threat (with some success) because he destabilises our ability to defend. Whilst this has helped against some teams and in some games, it's not optimal against everyone.

Not sure this will be the window to do it but our work on our defence needs to continue and for me, we still massively need a dynamic, modern DM to get the most out of GLC and TN. Those two for me, bridge the gap from midfield into attack and would allow the likes of Dele to shift into space and make intelligent runs, where he's most effective.
 

double0

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It's a shame so many people find it difficult to fit Dele into their teams if its not 4231. Dele can play in a diamond 433 he is a flexible player. The main issue isn't Dele Alli its the incompetence , our lack of transfer activities in the right position. We've been weak at CB Vertonghen and Toby in as much Lloris have become liabilities then you have the lack of investment at full back, it's been lopsided defensively disorganised for far to long not to mention we've had issues in midfield / DM and not having a back up striker.

In the time Son and Dele have been at the club you look at their goals and assists scores. I wouldn't be surprised both are pretty close in terms of productivity then take into consideration age.
 

Roberts84

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There is a very infectious disease ravaging the world that has cancelled all sports for 2+ months and stopped all large gatherings where fans wont be allowed in stadiums for quite a while and has tv broadcasters going over every inch of contracts to get money back. That is a MASSIVE chunk of change missing from the clubs revenue when we need to pay wages, and pay off a ~£600m debt
Minor detail...?
 
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