The Spurs Youth Thread - 2018/19

coys200

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Tbh he wasn’t hugely involved but what he did he did well and showed some real signs of class. You also have to consider this was against Juventus.
 

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Tbh he wasn’t hugely involved but what he did he did well and showed some real signs of class. You also have to consider this was against Juventus.
He made lot of good runs but was not picked by Dele or Georgiou. This is not in these video clips.
More than his touches on ball, I was impressed by his decision making and willing to make the runs and work for the team. He was unlucky to not score today.
 

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Our academy is starting to bear quite a bit of fruit now!!

And in this current transfer market with crazy prices, that's going to save us a fortune.
 

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Our academy is starting to bear quite a bit of fruit now!!

And in this current transfer market with crazy prices, that's going to save us a fortune.
Our academy has been bearing fruit since 2011 (when we used the CL money for training center and academy restructure)

Andros-10m
Caulker-8m
Mason-10m
Bentaleb-17m
Carroll-8m
Pritchard-10m

Then now we have Kane,Winks,Onomah,Skipp and now likes of Parrott.
 

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Our academy has been bearing fruit since 2011 (when we used the CL money for training center and academy restructure)

Andros-10m
Caulker-8m
Mason-10m
Bentaleb-17m
Carroll-8m
Pritchard-10m

Then now we have Kane,Winks,Onomah,Skipp and now likes of Parrott.
We didn’t make much money on his transfer but there was also Ryan Fredericks who may be West Ham’s starting RB this season.
 
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Our academy has been bearing fruit since 2011 (when we used the CL money for training center and academy restructure)

Andros-10m
Caulker-8m
Mason-10m
Bentaleb-17m
Carroll-8m
Pritchard-10m

Then now we have Kane,Winks,Onomah,Skipp and now likes of Parrott.
People always seem to forget our academy has been delivering, you've even left out Livermore which was decent money too for us. Kane and Winks have been two of the best academy to first team 11 players in world football. So many teams don't do this, especially those teams in the top 4 of the Premier League.

Look at the likes of City who buy Mahrez for 60m and isn't even needed, when they have Sancho sat there and so easy to see he would make it. Then you have Chelsea who only start to play Hudson when he gets England call up. It's hilarious how rubbish teams are with youth talent.
 

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Albeit only one game, today has provided a wealth of positives for all involved at the club. Poch will be happy with the victory, work ethic, team togetherness and how everyone knew their roles.

The players, both academy lads and first teamers, will feel great to get some minutes against top quality (in some cases world class) opposition, not to mention the buoyancy of Kane's winner.

Levy will be delighted at the high profile victory over consistent CL performers.

And to those left at home (Edwards springs to mind), this is the level of work ethic, mentality, drive and fitness you need to just be included in a Poch preseason. Can't be arsed? There's the door. No room for stragglers, no matter how talented you maybe.

Hopefully this positive start continues and flourishes into a season of silverware. Bring it on! COYS!
 

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Has Tanganga shown that sort of quality in the youth team ?
Definitely been highly regarded. My main concern was his height I think he’s only just 6ft. But he does have a leap like a salmon. And have been plenty of 6ft world class CB. Today actually looked the player I thought Ccv was gonna be. Shades of Paul McGrath about him.
 

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Has Tanganga shown that sort of quality in the youth team ?
yes but not for a while, he's been in a bit of a rut this past year or so but that often happens with players when they spend too much time playing u23s. i thought he did well today but never really had to exert himself.
 

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yes but not for a while, he's been in a bit of a rut this past year or so but that often happens with players when they spend too much time playing u23s. i thought he did well today but never really had to exert himself.
How old is he?
 

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yes but not for a while, he's been in a bit of a rut this past year or so but that often happens with players when they spend too much time playing u23s. i thought he did well today but never really had to exert himself.
I was worried he'd fallen into the same rut that so many do when they make the transition from u18s to u23s. We've had several CBs especially who thought were very promising all fall into the same thing and I was worried Tanganga was going to do the same.

The jury is still out on him of course but I'm delighted he's been invited on the tour and is playing.
 

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And to those left at home (Edwards springs to mind), this is the level of work ethic, mentality, drive and fitness you need to just be included in a Poch preseason. Can't be arsed? There's the door. No room for stragglers, no matter how talented you maybe.
I don't like this toxic notion that if you dont have the right attitude you won't get a chance

Can people show me proof of this? Not really.

Even though its abundantly clear Poch favours a certain of player.

Year after year, we have seen poch give players a chance during preseason that doesn't mean things are going well. Often this is because we dont have the squad numbers like at the moment Kane is our only real first team striker
 

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I don't like this toxic notion that if you dont have the right attitude you won't get a chance
There will no doubt be more than one reason why player A gets a chance and player B doesn't, and Poch's preference for a certain type of player may well be one of them. However, I don't understand why a player's attitude as an important determinant in this is a 'toxic notion'.
 

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yes but not for a while, he's been in a bit of a rut this past year or so but that often happens with players when they spend too much time playing u23s. i thought he did well today but never really had to exert himself.
Any read on how his potential compares to Eyoma?

Thought Tanganga's positioning in the Juve game was good and his tackling looked very technical, maybe just enough pace on him. Seems a very good passer and that could be one of his best traits. There were one or two times when he stepped up past the halfway line to put in a precise (and not clumsy) technical foul without drawing a card, something that CCV really struggles with. He also had a really nice read for at least one interception, if not two. But aerially I thought he maybe looked just a tad out of his depth, lost at least one cross in mid air. Not sure his day would have been the same if he had spent more time with Higuain on the pitch. At 20 years old, not likely that he's going to fill out more physically.

Tanganga and Eyoma are built similarly. Just wonder if either of them have a future in a back four. Both have potential in a back three but with an even less physically imposing build than Foyth, I'm just not sure you can make the case.

I'm also thinking realistically, Tanganga's a year behind Fikayo Tomori at Chelsea but seems to be miles behind in terms of development, got one call up to the England U21s in September but seems to now be getting passed over by players like Tomori that are getting 40+ Championship level starts. Not that Tomori needs to be the benchmark here, everyone can be on a different path, but its always useful to have a comparison. Eyoma also has been getting more regular international duty with the U19s, for what its worth.
 

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There will no doubt be more than one reason why player A gets a chance and player B doesn't, and Poch's preference for a certain type of player may well be one of them. However, I don't understand why a player's attitude as an important determinant in this is a 'toxic notion'.
No its toxic to suggest that players who dont make it, is because they dont have the "right attitude", yet there is no proof of this and if there is could someone direct me towards it?

When clearly in certain cases they dont suit his system at all. Players like Onomah and Veljkovic aren't what Poch looks for in CM, he likes people who athletic in those CM positions rather than a sitting DM who tends to read the game or a flair type CM who looks to control the tempo
 

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Any read on how his potential compares to Eyoma?

Thought Tanganga's positioning in the Juve game was good and his tackling looked very technical, maybe just enough pace on him. Seems a very good passer and that could be one of his best traits. There were one or two times when he stepped up past the halfway line to put in a precise (and not clumsy) technical foul without drawing a card, something that CCV really struggles with. He also had a really nice read for at least one interception, if not two. But aerially I thought he maybe looked just a tad out of his depth, lost at least one cross in mid air. Not sure his day would have been the same if he had spent more time with Higuain on the pitch. At 20 years old, not likely that he's going to fill out more physically.

Tanganga and Eyoma are built similarly. Just wonder if either of them have a future in a back four. Both have potential in a back three but with an even less physically imposing build than Foyth, I'm just not sure you can make the case.

I'm also thinking realistically, Tanganga's a year behind Fikayo Tomori at Chelsea but seems to be miles behind in terms of development, got one call up to the England U21s in September but seems to now be getting passed over by players like Tomori that are getting 40+ Championship level starts. Not that Tomori needs to be the benchmark here, everyone can be on a different path, but its always useful to have a comparison. Eyoma also has been getting more regular international duty with the U19s, for what its worth.
Tanganga, has missed a year or so of footy due to injuries but has great raw potential, whereas Tomori has excelled because last season he was managed by his youth coach who had faith in him.

Tomori would have never played for derby as long as he did if Jody Morris didn't know him or believe in him, the fact that he was allowed to play over high earners in the team in the championship is proof of this.
 

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Tanganga, has missed a year or so of footy due to injuries but has great raw potential, whereas Tomori has excelled because last season he was managed by his youth coach who had faith in him.

Tomori would have never played for derby as long as he did if Jody Morris didn't know him or believe in him, the fact that he was allowed to play over high earners in the team in the championship is proof of this.
Fair enough. I thought he did look exceptional the few times I got to see Derby, but in fairness he's not that much bigger/taller than Tanganga.
 
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