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TEESSIDE1

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Even more of a reason not to buy him then. :D

We seem to reject players based on a worse case scenario instead of saying these guys are really talented, we can work on their issues. Look at Zakaria, a player who’s been known for several years to be highly thought of just not by us lol, and now this season he’s blossomed and is helping his team lead the Bundesliga.
 

Lighty64

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We seem to reject players based on a worse case scenario instead of saying these guys are really talented, we can work on their issues. Look at Zakaria, a player who’s been known for several years to be highly thought of just not by us lol, and now this season he’s blossomed and is helping his team lead the Bundesliga.

if Zakaria has been well known for several years why is he still playing for Borussia Mönchengladbach, there are many players out there that perform the good season here and there especially when their team is flying, but their weakness shows when they don't.

we are not only talking about a player that isn't guaranteed to come into a more competitive league and will need to settle, but even Ndombele has also admitted he is finding it hard in the PL.

you mentioned Tiellamens in another post, he was a star in Belgium went to Monaco and flopped. we never turned him down because we didn't think he wasn't good enough, we turned him down because in a weak league but stronger than the Belgium league he flopped and even though Leicester threw him in early he hadn't played as much, and with Poch he would have taken time to use him. 1, we don't know the full terms of the loan, but with the no purchase option Poch turned it down, just like Cebbelos this summer.

with Pierre I'm sure there was complications in signing him at the time and he joined Leicester a year after we needed a RB. with Aurier I honestly believe he struggles with being rotated so often, not something he suffered when playing for PSG. he has made mistakes and he isn't as fast as Walker but he has a better delivery when he does cross, and with Trippier in his reasonably short time with us, he had more assist than Walker ever made. trouble with fb/wb's is there aren't many out there that are very fast, with good defending skills and also good with there delivery. Yes Robinson is 1 of the better in that position, but not many out there that have it all, TAA has the speed and delivery but when they do have to defend he isn't that good, better than Aurier.
 

dirtyh

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This is correct. I said how good he was and others did too and this weird complaint came up.

maybe the dangerous positions were 'whilst balanced on a tightrope' or 'in a room full of hungry lions'.

boggles my mind when it's clear to everyone how talented someone is and yet the most ridiculous of comments is used as an excuse not to pursue an interest. i don't accept that our scouting team is completely all bad and that poch has undoubtedly contributed to a few rickets along the way but it's also clear to see that we're certainly nowhere near the required standard.
 

The Scarecrow

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It’s one thing making money on a purchase and another when they’re a walking disaster on the pitch. Walker was a very good full back, his replacement in Trippier (promoted to 1st choice) was woeful.
He wasn't woeful, and he wasn't Walker's replacement. Aurier was Walker's replacement, and turned out to be woeful. Trippier has had some very good, and some bad games for us, but has done a very good job as second choice right back.
 

hero

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We don’t know that for sure. For all we know Hitchin has recommended players but levy and Pochettino haven’t wanted the player or been able to sign them.
I agree. I meant our system of a selection. If we can't splash the cash on the market, we have to be intelligence in selecting - finding a player before he becomes an unattainable or too pricey.
 

Japhet

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I agree. I meant our system of a selection. If we can't splash the cash on the market, we have to be intelligence in selecting - finding a player before he becomes an unattainable or too pricey.

We also have to brave enough to play them once they're here.Leicester have done brilliantly with the likes of Mahrez and Kante, and they now have Soyonchu doing very well. I'm not sure those players would have got their chance here, at least not to the same degree. I think we also need to give players like Tanganga a chance because I'm pretty sure Leicester would in our position.
 

spursfan77

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We also have to brave enough to play them once they're here.Leicester have done brilliantly with the likes of Mahrez and Kante, and they now have Soyonchu doing very well. I'm not sure those players would have got their chance here, at least not to the same degree. I think we also need to give players like Tanganga a chance because I'm pretty sure Leicester would in our position.

Leicester took over a year to give Soyonchu a run in the team though. He only got his chance because they sold Maguire.
 

Japhet

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Leicester took over a year to give Soyonchu a run in the team though. He only got his chance because they sold Maguire.


That's true, but what's the betting we shell out for a CB when we have Tanganga and Eyomah waiting in the wings.
 

Hakkz

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That's true, but what's the betting we shell out for a CB when we have Tanganga and Eyomah waiting in the wings.

Leicester have an experienced Evans next to Soyuncu though. If we lose TA and JV then I would like to add one older CB to compliment our relatively young ones.
 

Japhet

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Leicester have an experienced Evans next to Soyuncu though. If we lose TA and JV then I would like to add one older CB to compliment our relatively young ones.

Which would effectively mean Tanganga being behind Sanchez and the new CB in the pecking order.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Whoever makes the decisions re the quality of the players we’ve scouted needs to be shot or shown the door.

Pereira - not good enough
Tielemans - not good enough
Ndombele - not good enough (a year before we signed him)
Zakaria - not good enough

Yet we deem the following as good enough:

Aurier - vomit
Trippier - Jesus fucking Christ
Sissoko - meh
GKN - what was that about
Janssen - meh
N’Jie - meh
Stambouli - lol
Yes our 'French expert' Steve Hitchin..... should have been sacked years ago.
 

Hakkz

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Which would effectively mean Tanganga being behind Sanchez and the new CB in the pecking order.

Selling two and buying just one would mean plenty of time to go around. With our injury record.
 

skaz04nik

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We seem to reject players based on a worse case scenario instead of saying these guys are really talented, we can work on their issues
Age is also important, at 20-21 it's often hard to assess a player. E.g. how stable he is, injury resistance (see Lamela) etc

Klopp bought Mane when he was 24, Salah at 25, Alisson almost 26, Van Dijk at 26.5, Fabinho almost 25 etc

You pay more but reduce % risk
 

wrd

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I remember JJ saying that we were not interested in Zakaria (this was earlier, in the summer perhaps) since we he wasn't good enough. Oh well.
And its true, he improved massively this Season

Hopefully one of the benefits of becoming one of the top teams in europe is being able to wait to see to see whether a player develops and then getting him rather than having to take the risk ourselves. I think that's always been the great advantage that United (previously) and Madrid had which was they could cherry pick once players had developed rather than having to do the upfront work. Of course it means you pay more but in the long run you might save money on buying one player you're certain about rather than 2/3 maybes
 
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