The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

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Atal does look good attacking wise but I wonder how good he is at defending? It seems like he hasn’t even played right back that much lately.
 

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I think in January we should be looking to get in Bruno Fernandes 25 years old, scores goals and creates goals which we desperately need at the moment. I think our issue is mainly that despite often controlling possession we don't have enough threat or penetration. This ultimately puts pressure on our defence as the opposition don`t really fear us..
Also as part of starting the rebuild I would like to see a young centre back like Nathan Ake come in..
That league is so shit though. Anyone outside of Portugual would struggle to easily name 3 teams in it. He is basically up against Benfica and Sporting
 

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this but had a thought:

We always hear about not selling your best players, which is a "duh, no kidding" statement.

But I was thinking how at one point Eriksen, Jan and Toby were probably worth around 200 million between them.

And now we may lose all three for nothing.

Not only that but their performances have dropped off badly.

You could probably chuck Rose (who wasn't far off Walker a few years ago) and Dier (who United were sniffing around at a big number if I recall) in as well.

Maybe there is something to be said for selling high?

At least, always holding onto your best players is not as clear cut in my mind as it was before this year.
 

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this but had a thought:

We always hear about not selling your best players, which is a "duh, no kidding" statement.

But I was thinking how at one point Eriksen, Jan and Toby were probably worth around 200 million between them.

And now we may lose all three for nothing.

Not only that but their performances have dropped off badly.

You could probably chuck Rose (who wasn't far off Walker a few years ago) and Dier (who United were sniffing around at a big number if I recall) in as well.

Maybe there is something to be said for selling high?

At least, always holding onto your best players is not as clear cut in my mind as it was before this year.
Wenger was very good at that at one point.

I think you’re right but it’s tricky to know when.
 

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That league is so shit though. Anyone outside of Portugual would struggle to easily name 3 teams in it. He is basically up against Benfica and Sporting
Fernandes is at Sporting. You mean Porto.
 

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this but had a thought:

We always hear about not selling your best players, which is a "duh, no kidding" statement.

But I was thinking how at one point Eriksen, Jan and Toby were probably worth around 200 million between them.

And now we may lose all three for nothing.

Not only that but their performances have dropped off badly.

You could probably chuck Rose (who wasn't far off Walker a few years ago) and Dier (who United were sniffing around at a big number if I recall) in as well.

Maybe there is something to be said for selling high?

At least, always holding onto your best players is not as clear cut in my mind as it was before this year.
"They're a selling club and won't achieve anything until Levy and Enic back their manager by holding on to their best players ... "
 

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"They're a selling club and won't achieve anything until Levy and Enic back their manager by holding on to their best players ... "
Yeah. This will always be the response.

We only know in hindsight what players would have been worth selling. Even then, we wouldn't know now how those sold players would have done if they would have stayed at the club.
 

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Yeah. This will always be the response.

We only know in hindsight what players would have been worth selling. Even then, we wouldn't know now how those sold players would have done if they would have stayed at the club.
It's a tight rope. I mean, you can't sell all your best players all the time, but being selective might be the balance. In this instance, selling CE might have been better in the long term for the squad - although those above Poch would have still been beaten with the 'selling best players' stick.

Bit late now, and Levy/Enic have fucked up plenty in the past so no pass for them.

Who'd manage/run a football club?
 

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It's a tight rope. I mean, you can't sell all your best players all the time, but being selective might be the balance. In this instance, selling CE might have been better in the long term for the squad - although those above Poch would have still been beaten with the 'selling best players' stick.

Bit late now, and Levy/Enic have fucked up plenty in the past so no pass for them.

Who'd manage/run a football club?
Someone needs to be really ballsy and accept an offer "too good to turn down", even if it looks like a bad decision at the time.

Coutinho is probably the best example, where many people thought they were making a big mistake.

HOWEVER, if there is any point in bringing in lots of funds for new transfers then you need good scouting to make sure you sufficiently replace whoever left. I'm not convinced about our strategies regarding that atm.
 

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Someone needs to be really ballsy and accept an offer "too good to turn down", even if it looks like a bad decision at the time.

Coutinho is probably the best example, where many people thought they were making a big mistake.

HOWEVER, if there is any point in bringing in lots of funds for new transfers then you need good scouting to make sure you sufficiently replace whoever left. I'm not convinced about our strategies regarding that atm.
Probably the largest problem now - the need to buy quality is fine, but you also need to unearth talent from lower domestic levels if you aren't going to trust in what is being produced in your own academy.
 

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this but had a thought:

We always hear about not selling your best players, which is a "duh, no kidding" statement.

But I was thinking how at one point Eriksen, Jan and Toby were probably worth around 200 million between them.

And now we may lose all three for nothing.

Not only that but their performances have dropped off badly.

You could probably chuck Rose (who wasn't far off Walker a few years ago) and Dier (who United were sniffing around at a big number if I recall) in as well.

Maybe there is something to be said for selling high?

At least, always holding onto your best players is not as clear cut in my mind as it was before this year.
This is the point. Levy is getting hammered for letting them run their contracts down, but he would have also been hammered if he’d sold them in 2017. It was just a very particular set of circumstances that got us to this point.
 

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This is the point. Levy is getting hammered for letting them run their contracts down, but he would have also been hammered if he’d sold them in 2017. It was just a very particular set of circumstances that got us to this point.

Can't imagine the uproar if we'd sold Eriksen, Toby, Jan, Rose etc in 2017. People still moan that we sold Walker with all sorts of 'what could have been scenarios'.
 

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this but had a thought:

We always hear about not selling your best players, which is a "duh, no kidding" statement.

But I was thinking how at one point Eriksen, Jan and Toby were probably worth around 200 million between them.

And now we may lose all three for nothing.

Not only that but their performances have dropped off badly.

You could probably chuck Rose (who wasn't far off Walker a few years ago) and Dier (who United were sniffing around at a big number if I recall) in as well.

Maybe there is something to be said for selling high?

At least, always holding onto your best players is not as clear cut in my mind as it was before this year.
I think I've said this from time to time over the last couple of years.

I wouldn't have a problem selling any of our players, with the possible exception of Kane, if we got a good price that allowed us to get 2 or 3 quality youngsters into the club.

It keeps the squad fresh and maintains its value. It might also help with results on the pitch as there would always be a number of youngsters who have something to prove.

For squad continutity purposes, however, I'd only be selling one good player a season; don't want to get rid of all of them in one go lol.

Our scouting and transfer dealing needs to be a lot better though, as I it's definitely been a bit patchy in recently seasons.

Finally, I mention Kane above. The reason I'd be very reticent to sell him is for the obvious reason; he's a goalscorer. They're rare commodities in football, so it would be very difficult to replace him. It would take an eye-watering fee to pry him away from us in my opinion.
 

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Can't imagine the uproar if we'd sold Eriksen, Toby, Jan, Rose etc in 2017. People still moan that we sold Walker with all sorts of 'what could have been scenarios'.
I know what you mean, but it's unlikely we'd have sold all of them in one go.

But even if we had, a lot of the response from the fans would depend on who we brought in to replace them.

Also, the executives running the club are on big sales so should have big ideas and be brave enough to competently execute them. They should be able to take a bit of moaning from the fans from time to time.
 

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I know what you mean, but it's unlikely we'd have sold all of them in one go.

But even if we had, a lot of the response from the fans would depend on who we brought in to replace them.

Also, the executives running the club are on big sales so should have big ideas and be brave enough to competently execute them. They should be able to take a bit of moaning from the fans from time to time.

IMO, Ramsey's transfer to Juve and the ridiculous salary he got has changed a lot of things. I imagine a whole load of players are now thinking 'I'll have some of that'. Eriksen maintains that he's not financially motivated but I take that with a pinch of salt. In 2017, things were more straightforward but I think money played a pretty big part in Walker's move to City although you can't deny that he's picked up plenty of silverware as well. Times have changed now though and I think Levy has tried to stay ahead of the game with the updated contacts he's been dishing out to our top players. I think from now on we have to be prepared to sell some players before we reach the position we're currently in. IMO, that means starting to make plans when contracts have 3 years left to run, which in effect means players need to be signing 5 or 6 year contracts as a matter of course.
 

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It's a tight rope. I mean, you can't sell all your best players all the time, but being selective might be the balance. In this instance, selling CE might have been better in the long term for the squad - although those above Poch would have still been beaten with the 'selling best players' stick.

Bit late now, and Levy/Enic have fucked up plenty in the past so no pass for them.

Who'd manage/run a football club?
I think the answer is keep them, but when they get to 2 years left on contact sell.

For example we never should have sold Walker with 4 years left on his contract.

But Eriksen has proved we should have sold high a year and a half ago.
 

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That league is so shit though. Anyone outside of Portugual would struggle to easily name 3 teams in it. He is basically up against Benfica and Sporting
Ligue 1 isn't exactly strong these days and look who we got from that.
 
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