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si_yidarmy

£NIC OUT
Apr 17, 2005
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I feel, it is becoming very tedious and boring to see all these wonderful players signing long term contracts or promising commitment and loyalty, then wiping all that out and wanting to move within a year or two.

I understand, why he (modric) would go, of course, and i feel more so angry because i am a massive spurs fan....

BUT! there will come a point some day, where everyone gives up. All fans think, what is the point, what is the point in trying to progress...

It is almost the same as current corporations and businesses. Those who rocketed upwards in profits and brand recognition over 90's are left in a position to outbid or outbuy other companies, the same has arisen in Premier League football.

So if you are not already a major finance force, or major name in football, you will struggle. The way out? Be bought out by a russian/middle east consortium, or work extremely hard like we are now (which will fail eventually)

Whilst i wish to maintain our traditional and moralistic values, there will come a time where everyone has thier price and limit. This is the sad nature of not only football, but life and business.

I hope we all stick together, as we have done in the past, but realistically how much longer can this go on?

Best Wishes
Si
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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I'm pretty sure in 10 years time everyone under 22 years of age will support Barcelona and have Man Utd or Man City as their second team. I feel sorry for Villa and although they got themselves into debt problems, they tried to do it the hard way and also had to cope with trying to lure good players to live in Birmingham. At least we still have a good team, even if we eventualy lose Modric.
 

si_yidarmy

£NIC OUT
Apr 17, 2005
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I'm pretty sure in 10 years time everyone under 22 years of age will support Barcelona and have Man Utd or Man City as their second team. I feel sorry for Villa and although they got themselves into debt problems, they tried to do it the hard way and also had to cope with trying to lure good players to live in Birmingham. At least we still have a good team, even if we eventualy lose Modric.

You raise a valid point. My dad and I spoke about villa this morning. The destruction of thier team is beginning.. A few years ago they were challenging like ourselves with Everton to push for CL. at the time i laughed but now, i feel sorry for them. FIFA and FA will continue to allow this to happen, and players will continue to cry about not being paid £200,000 A WEEK instead of £50,000 A WEEK!

Yes our team will be strong if and when he goes. But the dominoe effect will follow.
 

stemark44

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Mar 17, 2005
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It's nice for clubs to show ambition but it's easy to 'talk the talk'...........it's another matter altogether to 'walk the walk'................that cost's hundreds of millions and a sugar daddy is the only answer.
 

DogsOfWar

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Jan 12, 2005
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Last season an away win against Blackpool would have seen us in 3rd place and we blew it.

Had we finished 3rd Modric would not be making noises about leaving and top players would be happy to come to us.

We have only ourselves to blame for this and not the financial state of football, we had our opportunity and blew it.
 

adamthfc

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Jun 28, 2004
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I think you just have to accept this is football now sky ad the champs league ruined it years ago.im sure eventually attendences willdwindle from any of the clubs now seen or considered as feeder clubs by players and the media maybe then people will wake up but more likely it will just lead to a superleague.
 

adamthfc

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Jun 28, 2004
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Last season an away win against Blackpool would have seen us in 3rd place and we blew it.

Had we finished 3rd Modric would not be making noises about leaving and top players would be happy to come to us.

We have only ourselves to blame for this and not the financial state of football, we had our opportunity and blew it.
Wouldnt have made one bit of difference we still couldn't offer the wages Chelsea will and people would still consider them far more likely to win trophies before us
 

Spurger King

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Jul 22, 2008
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I'm pretty sure in 10 years time everyone under 22 years of age will support Barcelona and have Man Utd or Man City as their second team.

Really wouldn't surprise me. I can also see a European super league finally happening...with maybe 10-15 teams from around Europe playing in their own little rich prick club, with no domestic football at all, as attendance figures drop around the rest of Europe and more and more clubs disappear.

Fuck it. Why don't we just have United, City, Chelsea, Barca and Madrid play each other home and away 6 times a season, and get rid of all football elsewhere, as soon enough 99.9% of all clubs will be nothing more than stepping stones with no possibility of success at all.
 

adamthfc

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Jun 28, 2004
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Really wouldn't surprise me. I can also see a European super league finally happening...with maybe 10-15 teams from around Europe playing in their own little rich prick club, with no domestic football at all, as attendance figures drop around the rest of Europe and more and more clubs disappear.

Fuck it. Why don't we just have United, City, Chelsea, Barca and Madrid play each other home and away 6 times a season, and get rid of all football elsewhere, as soon enough 99.9% of all clubs will be nothing more than stepping stones with no possibility of success at all.
Pretty much already is the case with regards to the other clubs
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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You raise a valid point. My dad and I spoke about villa this morning. The destruction of thier team is beginning.. A few years ago they were challenging like ourselves with Everton to push for CL. at the time i laughed but now, i feel sorry for them. FIFA and FA will continue to allow this to happen, and players will continue to cry about not being paid £200,000 A WEEK instead of £50,000 A WEEK!

Yes our team will be strong if and when he goes. But the dominoe effect will follow.

I'm not sure about the dominoe effect happening here at Spurs. Over the years the value of our side has grown to a point that if we lose one or all of the holy trinity (Bale, Modric, VDV) then we'll be armed with serious funds to put back into the squad. Villa's problem is there debt, they have had to sell good players but only part of the money will go into the team.

We might have a setback while new players settle into the team but our lack of debt at least means we'll be able to compete in the transfer market if big names leave.
 

Spurger King

can't smile without glue
Jul 22, 2008
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Pretty much already is the case with regards to the other clubs

Yep, wouldn't disagree. It's just so obviously the case that any team that challenges the established elite group (and by elite, I mean rich and supported by Sky) quickly finds itself pulled apart.

Spurs and Villa looked like two teams that would get in the mix. Spurs have hung on well so far, but I won't be surprised if the exodus begins soon, and over the next two seasons we are back to hoping for a 6th place finish as a sign of success.

It's pretty simple really. If we want to see Spurs win things with great players, we need a billionaire sugar daddy. The question is whether any trophies would have been won, or just bought. The Saudi royal family bought an FA cup last season. Manchester City football club had little to do with it.
 

Oscar22

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Apr 9, 2004
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Theres more or less no point in contracts in football nowadays. You sign one but if a little way into it you decide you don't fancy honouring it, you just sulk and complain until your allowed to leave so as to not affect the rest of the team.
 

adamthfc

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Jun 28, 2004
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Yep, wouldn't disagree. It's just so obviously the case that any team that challenges the established elite group (and by elite, I mean rich and supported by Sky) quickly finds itself pulled apart.

Spurs and Villa looked like two teams that would get in the mix. Spurs have hung on well so far, but I won't be surprised if the exodus begins soon, and over the next two seasons we are back to hoping for a 6th place finish as a sign of success.

It's pretty simple really. If we want to see Spurs win things with great players, we need a billionaire sugar daddy. The question is whether any trophies wouldhave been won, or just bought. The Saudi royal family bought an FA cup last season. Manchester City football club had little to do with it.
all sad but all very true
 

senseispab

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Feb 16, 2006
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Watch is and enjoy it

Or don't watch it and avoid being upset

But to watch it AND moan about it seems silly to me.

Fact is, there's too many people moaning while pumping the game full of money.
 

Azrael

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May 23, 2004
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Watch is and enjoy it

Or don't watch it and avoid being upset

But to watch it AND moan about it seems silly to me.

Fact is, there's too many people moaning while pumping the game full of money.
What a stupid post.

For some people football is their hobby. It's what they look forward to outside of work. For them it's not simply a case of watch it or don't wantch it. Supporting their team is in their blood. It comes from a day when football was more about the game and less about financial return. So to just say "don't watch" paints an overly simplistic picture of fandom.

Plus, if people don't watch because of the effect that the imbalance is having on their team, all that means is that it's the less successful teams that will ultimately suffer....so where's the logic in that?
 

adamthfc

Member
Jun 28, 2004
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Watch is and enjoy it

Or don't watch it and avoid being upset

But to watch it AND moan about it seems silly to me.

Fact is, there's too many people moaning while pumping the game full of money.

It's not that easy to walk away though I'd love not to care anymore but you can't.going to spurs is what I've done for why feels like years and there are plenty who have done it even longer.the games dead bit what else do you do on a weekend go shopping with the mrs fuck that
 

senseispab

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Feb 16, 2006
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It's not that easy to walk away though I'd love not to care anymore but you can't.going to spurs is what I've done for why feels like years and there are plenty who have done it even longer.the games dead bit what else do you do on a weekend go shopping with the mrs fuck that

More fool you, then.
 

spursphil

Tottenham To The Bone
Aug 8, 2008
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The lack of competition in the top flight of English football will burst the bubble sooner rather than later.

Who really has much faith in Fifa's fair play rules? Will they really stop one of the elite from competing in europe? I don't think so.

And what will be the tipping point for Spurs fans, a takeover by an Oligarch or a middle eastern sheik?

I can honestly see the formation of more breakaway clubs like F.C. United of Manchester. Thousands of football fans are now totally disillusioned with the state of the game. I watch a fair bit of non league footy and the majority that attend used to watch top flight football but are now pissed off with the direction of the game.

An interesting article on the United fans who stuck two fingers up to the Glazer takeover.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/21/fc-united-punk-football-fairytale
 

Graysonti

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May 8, 2011
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RA has ruined our game

Chelsea have won nothing

RA fc have won these trophies.

Chelsea can't afford 50 m fir a player, no club can.

I would jump for joy the day he moved from football
 
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