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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

cliff jones

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Aug 31, 2012
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Before we worry about truly competing lets qualify for the EL and sign good players who have high availability to have a better run at CL places and domestic cups next season.

Step by step.

But the next step includes having a proper stab at replacing HK this summer. I don’t mind Richie but he has injury issues and can also play wide.

I don’t think any of us like the public character but as far as risks go Toney looks the best bet to me 😁

Does Levy have the balls to do it?
 

yido_number1

He'll always be magic
Jun 8, 2004
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Before we worry about truly competing lets qualify for the EL and sign good players who have high availability to have a better run at CL places and domestic cups next season.

Step by step.

But the next step includes having a proper stab at replacing HK this summer. I don’t mind Richie but he has injury issues and can also play wide.

I don’t think any of us like the public character but as far as risks go Toney looks the best bet to me 😁

Does Levy have the balls to do it?
Id steer clear of him, arsenal fan and no degree of acceptance he was wrong for the betting.

I agree with step by step, hopefully a big step in the summer!
 

McArchibald

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This thread needs urgent bumping. Because the diagnosis of Fragile Foundations that Ange has put forwards in his post-City presser is spot on. These Fragile Foundations are real and undeniable - and cannot be laid at the door of the Manager of the Day. You can shoot the messenger but he's certainly not the first one to make this analysis.

The fact is that after 24 years of Levy the very soul has been sucked out of the club. Gone, sacrificed at the altar of ENIC's property empire. Levy of course proclaims wanting to win things, but during his reign he has never ever once made that the sole focal point of his actions. He doesn't want it badly enough, and certainly not at the expense of his own long term goals of wealth creation at the club's expense.

The infrastructure may be there but the culture within the club and even the fanbase has been twisted into accepting without question such Levy mantra's as responsible spending, long term growth, healthy balance sheets and suchlike. The whole club - top to bottom should be seething with rage and frustration at having such a good position slip out of our grasp in the past few months. At having been overtaken by Arsenal and even Aston Villa. Instead, we blithely turn the page and discuss potential new up and coming talents (never ready-made top players, God forbid) and fork out for new tickets in the vague hope that things might change in the future. While no steps are being taken to ensure that that actually happens.
And that is why the ousting of Daniel Levy -to turn back to the title of the thread - is becoming more urgent by the day. He's not just part of the problem, he IS the problem. His whole outlook on what THFC is and what it is for is so skewered towards his own needs that success has become an impossibility with him at the helm. He needs to be gone - right now.
 
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JUSTINSIGNAL

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Jul 10, 2008
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This thread needs urgent bumping. Because the diagnosis of Fragile Foundations that Ange has put forwards in his post-City presser is spot on. These Fragile Foundations are real and undeniable - and cannot be laid at the door of the Manager of the Day. You can shoot the messenger but he's also not the first one to make this analysis.

The fact is that after 24 years of Levy the very soul has been sucked out of the club. Gone, sacrificed at the altar of ENIC's property empire. Levy of course proclaims he wants to win things, but during his reign he has never ever once made that the sole focal point of his actions. He doesn't want it badly enough, and certainly not at the expense of his own long term goals of wealth creation at the club's expense.

The infrastructure may be there but the culture within the club and even the fanbase has been twisted into accepting without question such Levy mantra's as responsible spending, long term growth, healthy balance sheets and suchlike. The whole club - top to bottom should be seething with rage and frustration at having such a good position slip out of our grasp in the pas few months. At having been overtaken by Arsenal and even Aston Villa. Instead, we blithely turn the page and discuss potential new up and coming talents (never ready-made top players, God forbid) and fork out for new tickets in the vague hope that things might change in the future. While no steps are being taken to ensure that that actually happens.
And that is why the ousting of Daniel Levy -to turn back to the title of the thread - is becoming more urgent by the day. He's not just part of the problem, he IS the problem. His whole outlook on what THFC is and what it is for is so skewered towards his own needs that success has become an impossibility with him at the helm. He needs to be gone - right now.

Hahahahah and you couldn’t wait to bump it. We get it 😂
 

robotsonic

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Aug 20, 2013
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Once there was the cult of BSoDL. Now it just feels like there's a cult of the opposite. A BSoDLOut, if you will.

Done nothing wrong as far as I can remember for a whole year (a record?), and now going to catch strays for a situation that was completely expected, planned for, and accepted ahead of time in that we might have a bit of a see-saw season.

Have at it I guess.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Jul 29, 2011
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Before we worry about truly competing lets qualify for the EL and sign good players who have high availability to have a better run at CL places and domestic cups next season.

Step by step.

But the next step includes having a proper stab at replacing HK this summer. I don’t mind Richie but he has injury issues and can also play wide.

I don’t think any of us like the public character but as far as risks go Toney looks the best bet to me 😁

Does Levy have the balls to do it?
I would take a gamble on Toney😉
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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Just about to renew my season ticket. It’s gone 4 figures for the first time. A lot of money for a product that has no idea what it’s supposed to be. Renewing not for Spurs this year, but for a personal reason. That reason won’t be valid next year. The next mug can step up.
 

southlondonyiddo

My eyes have seen some of the glory..
Nov 8, 2004
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‘There used to be a football club over there’

Took me far too many years and a huge amount of money to fully understand that, and see the light
 

13VanDerBale13

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Jul 12, 2011
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It’s hard to be confident that he’ll back Ange fully in the Summer.
Let’s just see how much patience Ange has, or it could end up sour like Conte.

Either way, it’s quite clear to see where the problem lies with this club.
Different managers, same ambition being questioned.
 

Ruffinthepuffin

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Jun 21, 2011
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I have very little confidence that Levy will back Ange adequately but would be absolutely delighted to be wrong.
Serious backing this summer could be the start of something really special imvho. 😊
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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This thread needs urgent bumping. Because the diagnosis of Fragile Foundations that Ange has put forwards in his post-City presser is spot on. These Fragile Foundations are real and undeniable - and cannot be laid at the door of the Manager of the Day. You can shoot the messenger but he's also not the first one to make this analysis.

The fact is that after 24 years of Levy the very soul has been sucked out of the club. Gone, sacrificed at the altar of ENIC's property empire. Levy of course proclaims he wants to win things, but during his reign he has never ever once made that the sole focal point of his actions. He doesn't want it badly enough, and certainly not at the expense of his own long term goals of wealth creation at the club's expense.

The infrastructure may be there but the culture within the club and even the fanbase has been twisted into accepting without question such Levy mantra's as responsible spending, long term growth, healthy balance sheets and suchlike. The whole club - top to bottom should be seething with rage and frustration at having such a good position slip out of our grasp in the pas few months. At having been overtaken by Arsenal and even Aston Villa. Instead, we blithely turn the page and discuss potential new up and coming talents (never ready-made top players, God forbid) and fork out for new tickets in the vague hope that things might change in the future. While no steps are being taken to ensure that that actually happens.
And that is why the ousting of Daniel Levy -to turn back to the title of the thread - is becoming more urgent by the day. He's not just part of the problem, he IS the problem. His whole outlook on what THFC is and what it is for is so skewered towards his own needs that success has become an impossibility with him at the helm. He needs to be gone - right now.
Spot on.

We need Ange to reset and override this culture to one of a club wanting to win.

A lot will depend on how Ange is or isn’t backed this summer.

Recent times have been better but now is the key key time, let’s see if history will repeat itself or not.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Post ENIC: 2000

David Pleat
Glenn Hoddle
Jaques Santini
Martin Jol
Juande Ramos
Harry Redknapp
Andre Villas Boas
Tim Sherwood
Mauricio Pochettino
Jose Mourinho
Nuno
Antonio Conte
Ange Postecoglou

You all took one hell of a beating

not to mention

Clive Allen/Alex Inglethorpe/Ryan Mason & Christian Stellini

And not one of them with the same winning mentality as Daniel Levy - remarkable really
 

Verloc

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DiVaio

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This thread needs urgent bumping. Because the diagnosis of Fragile Foundations that Ange has put forwards in his post-City presser is spot on. These Fragile Foundations are real and undeniable - and cannot be laid at the door of the Manager of the Day. You can shoot the messenger but he's certainly not the first one to make this analysis.

The fact is that after 24 years of Levy the very soul has been sucked out of the club. Gone, sacrificed at the altar of ENIC's property empire. Levy of course proclaims wanting to win things, but during his reign he has never ever once made that the sole focal point of his actions. He doesn't want it badly enough, and certainly not at the expense of his own long term goals of wealth creation at the club's expense.

The infrastructure may be there but the culture within the club and even the fanbase has been twisted into accepting without question such Levy mantra's as responsible spending, long term growth, healthy balance sheets and suchlike. The whole club - top to bottom should be seething with rage and frustration at having such a good position slip out of our grasp in the past few months. At having been overtaken by Arsenal and even Aston Villa. Instead, we blithely turn the page and discuss potential new up and coming talents (never ready-made top players, God forbid) and fork out for new tickets in the vague hope that things might change in the future. While no steps are being taken to ensure that that actually happens.
And that is why the ousting of Daniel Levy -to turn back to the title of the thread - is becoming more urgent by the day. He's not just part of the problem, he IS the problem. His whole outlook on what THFC is and what it is for is so skewered towards his own needs that success has become an impossibility with him at the helm. He needs to be gone - right now.
Are we now pretending that it was Daniel Levy who wanted to lose yesterdays game and lose a chance for CL when for the last 20 years he was supposed to only care about money from CL and not trophies?
Yeah, Ange wasn't first manager to moan mentality but instead of his predecessors it wasn't done only as a excuse for bad coaching and bad results
 

EssexSH27

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Aug 31, 2011
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Just about to renew my season ticket. It’s gone 4 figures for the first time. A lot of money for a product that has no idea what it’s supposed to be. Renewing not for Spurs this year, but for a personal reason. That reason won’t be valid next year. The next mug can step up.
Legit reason to bump this post btw. Swear it’s almost £1 a minute to go a game these days, most of them are VAR stoppages
 

Neon_Knight_

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Jul 20, 2011
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Post ENIC: 2000

David Pleat
Glenn Hoddle
Jaques Santini
Martin Jol
Juande Ramos
Harry Redknapp
Andre Villas Boas
Tim Sherwood
Mauricio Pochettino
Jose Mourinho
Nuno
Antonio Conte
Ange Postecoglou

You all took one hell of a beating

not to mention

Clive Allen/Alex Inglethorpe/Ryan Mason & Christian Stellini

And not one of them with the same winning mentality as Daniel Levy - remarkable really
Everyone goes on about how many managers Levy has gone through, yet 13 in 24 years is actually pretty standard in the modern era.

Of the current PL teams, 8/20 have had more managers than us since the ENIC takeover (Aston Villa, Brentford, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Everton, Luton, Newcastle, Nottingham Forest).
Three others have had the exact same number of managers as us, so that makes us bang average in terms of manager churn.

Looking at other clubs who've been in the PL in the last 5 years, most of them have had more manager than us since the ENIC takeover too (Cardiff, Huddersfield, Leicester, Southampton, Watford).

Remarkable really! 😜
 
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